00:00hi everyone I just had some really
00:02interesting realization about season 4
00:05and I really want to share this with you
00:06guys so as you may know we get those new
00:08tormented bosses you can see one of them
00:10here right now andario one of the new
00:12ones and she's level 200 so those level
00:15200 bosses are basically some of the
00:17high-end challenges that you can conquer
00:19with your characters in season 4 now and
00:22they are extremely rewarding and I did a
00:25bit of napkin math on this and actually
00:27realized that it will really complete
00:30shift the way that we Farm items in
00:32those boss encounters if you remember
00:35from season 2 or season 3 if you have
00:36played those U people were very upset
00:39that you had to farm dual like hundreds
00:41of times basically to try to get
00:43anything and it was extremely annoying
00:46extremely boring because the Dual fight
00:48was also not really challenging and now
00:50we actually have some pretty interesting
00:52bosses here this also means that you
00:54can't just walk in there on day one and
00:56kind just blast them down as you may be
00:58used to from durial for for example or
01:01you can't just invite a HB that Bonks it
01:02and that's it although these days you
01:04can probably invite a necro that does
01:05the same even on those bosses uh it
01:08won't be like an instable challenge
01:10let's say at least but at the very least
01:12it will probably not be super face roll
01:15for most people that being said though
01:18those bosses are super rewarding because
01:20when we played on a PTR we had a times
01:23five cost for a times five reward for
01:26those bosses so the idea from the
01:27developers was that well you you pay
01:30more but you fight them less often and
01:33you get all of the loot back anyway
01:35basically so that was the idea and then
01:37after the PTR blizzard has decided that
01:39they're going to reduce the cost and
01:41keep the rewards the same so they reduce
01:43the cost to times three and they get
01:45times five the rewards and that actually
01:47changes things pretty significantly and
01:49I will show you why so the reason why
01:52this is so important is because well you
01:56multiply the materials that you get from
01:58the other bosses you have the four pre-
02:00bosses so to say the vashan the grigar
02:02that they use for durial and now zir and
02:04Beast that they use for
02:06andario and the way this worked is that
02:08you had to kill each of them two times
02:10to get one durial summon and then durial
02:13had like a 2% Uber drop rate so I have
02:15to kill durial 50 times on average to
02:18get one Uber drop and this means you
02:20have to kill the other bosses a 100
02:22times so this is like a little
02:24calculation here if you do like a big
02:25farming session let's say 100 kills of
02:28the pre- bosses 50 kills dual gives you
02:31one Uber unique and well a bunch of
02:33other stuff I guess so this is how the
02:35game used to work in season 2 and season
02:38three and now it gets really interesting
02:40when we look at season 4 because of this
02:42times three cost and times five reward
02:45scheme that I just explained so number
02:48one is first of all those bosses have an
02:50Uber drop rate I believe it's
02:520.5% and um you already get a bit of
02:55like a chance to get something there
02:56which is pretty cool but also when you
02:59farm those materials to then do dual and
03:01daral you get a lot more out of it so
03:05for example we have 10 kills here
03:08farming session and this means you need
03:1030 times the materials to get 50 times
03:13the rewards and uh well this is not
03:15exactly the same as here because here we
03:17did 100 rewards basically but you don't
03:20need more than that to get the same
03:21result so first of all you have like a
03:23bit of a chance to get an ubernick here
03:25so a quarter of an Uber neque from
03:27killing those bosses only 10 times with
03:30um the 30 muts here basically and now if
03:33you go down to Uber durial and andariel
03:37you can do 8.33 Summons of those so in
03:40this calculation I only did three this
03:42is just like some change here basically
03:43I left that out but if you go down here
03:46now you do tormented dual and adario and
03:49he can use those materials that he get
03:51from those only 10 kills basically to
03:54summon them eight times and if you
03:56summon them eight times you're going to
03:57get 40 times the rewards giving you on
04:00average 0.8 Uber unes so if you add
04:03those two things up well that's a bit
04:05more than one Uber on average from just
04:0810 kills here and eight kills down here
04:11and uh well the only thing that really
04:13holds you back here are those stigan
04:15stones so you can see this here right
04:17now this is actually in the preview uh
04:19those stigan stones those are a new
04:21material that they can find in the pit
04:23and they drop more and more the higher
04:25you go in a pit they didn't really say
04:27exactly when they start dropping and how
04:29how much you get but at least on the PTR
04:32it was not a problem at all to get those
04:33digan stones really if if you had a
04:35powerful build and you went to like yeah
04:38high enough pit levels let's say it was
04:40totally fine you would never be to get
04:42enough of those other boss materials to
04:44use all those S and stones at least that
04:46was my impression that might have been
04:48treat a little bit but either way I
04:49don't think it's really supposed to be a
04:51bottleneck because I think they really
04:53want you to find those tend bosses as
04:55long as you are strong enough and now if
04:57you look at the Total distribution and
04:58the farming time required to actually
05:01Farm all those boss materials let's just
05:03ignore the the fighting for a second uh
05:06well in the Season Two Season three
05:09scenario here you needed 100 vashan and
05:11gas for 50 dual kills and then here we
05:16only Farm 30 MS this is a third less
05:19than a third of the materials that you
05:21previously used to get the kind of the
05:23same outcome so you only need to farm
05:26around a third of the materials uh to
05:28then do those other bosses here a few
05:31times and the thing is you get a lot
05:33more materials in season 4 like these
05:36most materials are dropping like candy
05:38basically everywhere you farm hell tide
05:40you kill some Elites sometimes it just
05:42pops like uh Zer blood and uh you go in
05:45Hell tide you open those chests you get
05:46living steel everywhere it's crazy and
05:50uh sometimes you just get like some M
05:51heart sometimes you get some other Mars
05:53there you get uh these beast in the ice
05:57materials from night n super easily as
05:59well because you can just like steamroll
06:01tier tier 100 dungeons now Bas basically
06:04any build so in general acquiring those
06:07boss materials is way faster and way
06:09easier because you just get them from
06:11your leads events uh just random drops
06:14uh it's crazy so in the end this means
06:17that not only do you only need like 30%
06:19of the muts compared to before but you
06:22also get those mods faster so in i' say
06:26probably it's like four or five times
06:28faster comp compared to what we're used
06:30to when we're looking at season 2 and
06:33season 3 and the only real question mark
06:35here is going to be what about those San
06:37stones and as I mentioned I don't expect
06:40this to be a huge problem and one last
06:43point that is kind of important here as
06:44well is that in season 4 uniques have
06:47kind of fallen off a bit compared to
06:49legendary items thanks to the tempering
06:51mods and the new item stats that they
06:52can roll on all of the gear and we do
06:54expect a bit of nerves there but nothing
06:57that will really shift the overall all
06:59meta around so this means that in
07:01general you actually don't really use
07:03uniques anymore in fact most of my build
07:05planners that I've made and I've made
07:06like 15 builds now or something actually
07:09don't even have a single unique in them
07:10or maybe they have like one that like
07:11some build defining item you know like a
07:13fractured winter glass or frozen orb or
07:16something like that and most of the time
07:18you don't even care about Uber Unix
07:20anymore that much actually there are
07:22definitely still cases of ues being
07:24really valuable grandfather in
07:25particular is probably the overall
07:27strongest out there especially for the
07:28barbs and then you also have stuff like
07:31doombringer that's really good because
07:32you really want to Stack that
07:33survivability in the pit and yeah maybe
07:36some builds still want to run shako but
07:38for example from my personal experience
07:40like P CFOs builds it turns out that
07:42shako is not necessarily that crazy
07:44anymore because you can get a lot more
07:46skill ranks these days and so on so some
07:49of those Uber are still pretty good some
07:51of them are actually best in slot for
07:53some builds but you're not still going
07:55to put like five Uber enes into every
07:58single build as long as they have those
07:59super uniques so it's not like you have
08:01to grind a doombringer and a stalis and
08:04a shako and a grandfather you know all
08:06at once in order to have you know the
08:08best build possible instead yeah maybe
08:11you're going to throw in one maybe two
08:13on a bar or something and that's
08:14probably about it when it comes to Uber
08:16Enix for most builds and this means that
08:18if you look at this farming session here
08:20where let's say previously uh for
08:23example for my experience um playing
08:25season two and season three uh I got
08:30seven Uber NES in season 2 I think and I
08:33got like 13 in season 3 until I had what
08:36I wanted basically so 13 ubernick means
08:40like a lot a lot of these material I
08:42found like around 300 plus or so of
08:45these bosses in uh in season 3 and then
08:49uh of course times four in a boss
08:51rotation for durial um I would had like
08:531,200 kills or so and that is roughly
08:56what I have done in season 3 so it was
08:59pretty crazy so for my own personal
09:01experience in season 3 for example with
09:0313 drops yeah I found roughly like 300
09:06vashan and Griggs and then times four in
09:08Boss rotations uh that would be 600 dual
09:12summons this is roughly what I've done
09:13to get those items so that kind of
09:16checks out here and uh obviously that
09:18was an insane grind so if you look at
09:21you know how fast you can Farm those
09:22bosses I would say if you're really fast
09:25you can do like maybe one durial summon
09:28per half hour or so so let's say two
09:30dual summons per hour and then times
09:33four that's eight dual per hour of
09:35grinding if you're like really fast and
09:37really efficient and it doesn't actually
09:38count a time you you need to F those
09:40bosses a few hundred times as well
09:42because they obviously have a lot of
09:43kills to do so that alone it's like you
09:45know dozens of hours or something so um
09:48there goes that and now in the future
09:50let's say I want like maybe two Uber
09:52enes maybe three Uber enes in total uh
09:54you get already three Sparks just from
09:56playing the game from season journey and
09:58the SE um the the season quest line and
10:00stuff like that so you already almost
10:02have an Uber unique anyway just from
10:04playing the game and if you only play
10:07like one build and you need like maybe
10:08one Uber unique well you just need to
10:10get like one drop or something Salvage
10:12it if it's not the right one and boom
10:14you got your Uber in for your build
10:16basically and even if you need multiple
10:18of those the farming requirement just
10:21went so far down you actually barely
10:24even have to do those bosses anymore so
10:26compared to what it was with like these
10:28hundreds and hundreds of of Boss kills I
10:30am very glad that this has changed and
10:32this is actually a really cool new
10:35system now where I can like focus more
10:36on for example the pit pushing and you
10:39know making alls and just having fun and
10:41not necessarily feel like so focused on
10:43just like grinding hell Tides all day
10:45long grinding Whispers all day long and
10:48trying to get those Uber drops basically
10:50from durial and that's the only thing
10:51that matters so I think that's excellent
10:54and I'm really looking forward to
10:55playing this season especially after
10:57this realization here with how much less
11:00boss farming it actually is to do now
11:02one last consideration here is that for
11:04the ultra blasters you might actually
11:07want to try to get Uber uniques that
11:08have greater AES on them but I guess at
11:11that point we're talking about some
11:12really try hard um like you know like
11:16players basically where not even I I
11:19think I would consider that really to be
11:21a viable option I believe the greater
11:24aex CH is like 10% uh like individually
11:28so if if you want to get like you know
11:30one greater AIX on an item uh yeah you
11:32have to get like 10 shakles or something
11:34to get like one greater AIX and then
11:35there's four different stats on it and
11:38then you know it might roll the long run
11:40most likely so yeah I guess
11:43realistically you're not really looking
11:44at farming greater Alix shakos or
11:46something like that uh I guess you could
11:48if you really like boss farming But
11:51ultimately it's uh kind of unrealistic I
11:54guess to try to get at least multiple
11:56grer alexes unless you get extremely
11:57lucky or something and you win a lot and
11:59there are certainly like a few items
12:02that are extremely valuable when you
12:04find them with greater a fixes I guess
12:06the biggest example here is tal might so
12:08this is the new Uber that um drops now
12:11in season 4 is this one and for example
12:14getting like a greater AIX on the
12:15maximum all rest on this thing is
12:18ridiculously powerful so this item is
12:20really good if you want to have extra
12:22defenses near build and especially this
12:24maximum all resistance like if you
12:26manage to like up this to uh you know
12:28close closer to the cap basically then
12:30you're going to be super protected so
12:32that is one of those examples I guess
12:33where a greater a would be really neat
12:36but most the other stuff doesn't also
12:37really matter that much like if you look
12:39at this item here all rest all stats
12:41yeah some damage reduction it's cool and
12:43all but ultimately there's like this one
12:45stat that is really the kicker if you
12:46look at other items here like shako yeah
12:49it would be probably cool to have like a
12:51greater ax cool down or something but
12:53it's not really required I guess one
12:55thing that would be kind of noticeable
12:57as well would be the maximum life on a
12:59if you hit that one as a great Alix well
13:01that's pretty juicy for sure because it
13:03already has such a high base value uh or
13:06you hit to ignore durability loss how
13:08about that one and uh I guess
13:10doombringer is also probably like a
13:11pretty big one here with the XA maximum
13:13life if that is a great Alix that will
13:15actually be quite noticeable I guess but
13:18outside of that these other like stats
13:20on these Uber don't really matter enough
13:22for you to really want to farm them as a
13:25greater AIX I guess so I don't think
13:28this would really be something that
13:29anyone would reasonably do because the
13:32stats are just like too small to really
13:34matter outside of like yeah the maximum
13:36R rest the life and the life here I
13:38guess in any case that's my summary here
13:41of what to expect from the boss farming
13:43tldr lot fewer bosses and a lot more
13:47rewards especially we Farm those
13:49tormented bosses so you want to try to
13:50get your build online to farm those
13:52tormented bosses as soon as possible and
13:54this means you generally want to invest
13:56into a build this season that has pretty
13:58good single t get damage because even if
14:00you do tormented boss rotations with
14:02other people uh well someone has to kill
14:05those bosses and they're going to have a
14:06few billion life they are way more tanky
14:09than uh durial was in the past um so
14:12durial in foran had 180 million in
14:14season freame and uh like a for and
14:17tormented durial is probably going to
14:18have like 8 billion or so so that's like
14:20times 40 that's a a lot of life so you
14:24definitely want to bring some big single
14:25Target damage there and uh yeah maybe
14:28one or two carries or something but yeah
14:32it looks really cool though I'm really
14:33excited for this so hope you enjoyed my
14:35little like summary here and then the
14:37math that I threw around uh so I'm going
14:40to put this in the description as well
14:41for you to check out if you curious
14:44about what I calculated here in more
14:46detail but this is what I got here for
14:49the boss farming strats in season 4 so
14:51hope you like this and see you guys next
