00:20how's this is like a this is like a
00:27here is this true that bogdon just on
00:30the Lex fredman podcast like I'm seeing
00:33photos of this I gu it's pretty crazy
00:36you saw the picture yes wow that's
00:39awesome and then I don't know I'm sorry
00:41I just came in here and started
00:43talking we're just getting started you
00:45can talk all you want
00:49Michael oh good morning good
00:53afternoon hi Skyler have you have you go
00:58m not yet hi ra hi nice to meet you you
01:06too all right I you don't see vogan
01:10right it's not just my eyes
01:22um I like this music Still connecting
01:25audio thank you I stole it from another
01:29facility there oh Mario Marcio
01:42you we're looking forward for your
01:45podcast with L thank you me too going to
01:52weeks hello Mauricio welcome hello how
01:57doing really good especially now that
02:02you thank you everyone um this is going
02:05to be really nice and cozy um thank you
02:09thank you for joining us um and I think
02:12I just want to appreciate you all for
02:14being here I think this is a topic
02:16that very important but especially for
02:19those who that need it they they might
02:21not see it as one like we need to really
02:24grab people like sit down and then think
02:26about your well-being as a Founder um so
02:29just appreciate you all for being here
02:31and super excited for you to meet um
02:33Rena because um I chatted with her a few
02:37weeks ago and then was just like blowing
02:38my mind like the wisdom that she could
02:41and then just like how ready and like I
02:43feel good just like being in her
02:47presence so I think you all will as well
02:50um so I think we can just go around and
02:52then introduce ourselves and then keep R
02:54in the end to introduce her more and
02:56then her work um so we can share our
02:59name where we're calling from your
03:00company feel free to also put it in the
03:02chat um and I think one question
03:06challenge or like uh what brought you
03:08into this space why is it then important
03:11or interesting to you to talk about
03:13wellbeing um I can go first and then
03:16I'll pass it around so angin um Comm and
03:20transen and I think it's important
03:23because um I see a lot of like this
03:26hustle culture especially in kind of
03:28like my peers and then to some extent it
03:31is so empowering and then we need that
03:34but there's also part of me that to what
03:37extent um that we should hustle and then
03:40when do we know like how to stop or like
03:42pause um so I'm going to pass it to uh
03:47bton thank you my name is bton I'm
03:49confounder of a house um platform for
03:52upscaling machine learning engineers and
03:55um what brought me here uh I know that
03:59already there is no uh work uh life
04:03balance it's work life blend and uh like
04:06I'm like it's it's part of my life but
04:09uh what brought me here just curiosity
04:11um just would like to hear what's what's
04:14in Trend right now what the best like
04:17practices etc etc thank you and I'm
04:24Michael thanks Von uh congratulations on
04:27the podcast feature again cool um yeah I
04:31think um wellbeing is something I really
04:35enjoyed looking into over the last few
04:37years um my life runs in Seasons it's
04:40like I'm in the ocean like just fully
04:43like immersed in these crazy waves
04:45sometimes it's calm sometimes it's
04:47beautiful sometimes it's like crazy
04:49scary and life-threatening and then like
04:51I'm at a desk in other seasons for like
04:53four weeks and just like or traveling
04:55around the world meeting a lot of you
04:56and hanging out and um I think how my
05:00well-being like kind of changes with the
05:02seasons is something I stopped forcing
05:04and more just like hey this is the
05:05period I'm in and this is what I'm doing
05:07so um cool I'll pass it to
05:12Mauricio my name is Mauricio I'm from
05:16uru um I'm the founder of
05:19esita esita is the word in Spanish for
05:23little school we had kids in context
05:27critical neighborhoods to learn how to
05:30and our cor is social but we also try to
05:33reach the market and sell the same
05:35courses um why I'm here actually I'm
05:40here to have a a space of accountability
05:43about my well-being because as a Founder
05:47like I'm not really focused on my
05:51wellbeing and so to see what other says
06:01Sor do you want to pass it yeah I pass
06:05to this would be where to to R who
06:10should I SP your name I don't know how
06:14name I'm gonna go last but it is frog in
06:18Spanish you know same
06:25say okay I wanted to treat you as
06:30I very much identify with frogs it is my
06:33being it's all good it's all good Skyler
06:37Skyler do you want to go since I'm going
06:40last sure um hey I'm calling in from
06:45Minnesota I'm home with my family right
06:48now um I help run the program at
06:51transend uh I was excited to come to
06:53this space today because I'm curious how
06:56well-being can be um a more integrated
06:59part of the programs and the spaces we
07:02create for Founders without being the
07:04explicit like we're going to focus on
07:06well-being like I think there's a lot of
07:09those kinds of programs or coaching
07:10programs out there and I I think given
07:12all that Founders are experiencing and
07:14facing like they like like Mauricio was
07:17saying it can't it's not always the
07:19thing that's front of minds but I think
07:20it can be like um more top of mind for
07:24us as we're preparing and creating
07:26spaces so just curious how how you to go
07:30about um focusing and and supporting
07:32people um who are living busy lives um
07:36have this as a central part of their
07:42too and fash I think um you're L but
07:47always all right uh so we shating name
07:50company and what brought us here today
07:52like that so hi withan I'm founder of a
07:55company in India known as dev's Nest uh
07:58we help we done a boot camp uh which
08:01helps students to learn and get up skill
08:04and what brought me here today is
08:07basically uh what I what I realized is
08:09like it's easier to set up rules for the
08:11team you know to like the the weekends
08:14are off or like after after 7 p.m. like
08:17basic time zones but like we we we have
08:20seen a decent amount of scale but what I
08:22realized in the last one month or so I
08:25haven't taken a break and now the
08:27productivity is somewhat like it it it
08:29it kind of lacks and comes up and like
08:32what do what do people actively do to
08:34you know like if you if you do do not
08:36have a set schedule of break like how do
08:45and thank you um and Matas um you happen
08:48to be like last welcome we're sharing
08:50your name your company and also what bir
08:52you here today if you can um take us
09:03it's my turn okay hey everyone um well
09:07I'm Matas from Edison we we're building
09:10cohort based courses in digital skills
09:13with industry experts from latam and
09:16what brought me here today I just
09:19listened to the last sentence of what V
09:21was saying and similar to him like on
09:25the past couple of months I've been
09:27working like at lot every
09:30day till very late every day and yes
09:35many times I don't know when to
09:37prioritize myself maybe over the
09:41business and also I wanted to see what
09:44different Founders maybe some Founders
09:47that are VC bagged and some that are
09:49bootstrapped and how this changes
09:52depending on the model because I think
09:54that when you go VC you have much more
09:57pressure like there's someone else that
10:01like I don't know perform for I don't
10:04know if that sounds good but wanted to
10:07see what Founders in different cases
10:13experiencing thank you thank you all um
10:16wow fire diers but also I think a lot of
10:20kind of team the same team um today so
10:23right now I'm going to pass it to you to
10:25share more about yourself also um shed
10:28some light on some of this
10:29topics hi I'm Rana thanks for having me
10:33today um I love talking about well-being
10:36so this is like my personal well-being
10:38and happy spot so thanks for having me
10:41um what you should know about me so I
10:45for the for eight and a half years I was
10:48working at Microsoft um doing a range
10:51from a drill jobs from operations to
10:55creative production to product marketing
10:57for Microsoft teams and then the job
11:00that I left was Communications and PR
11:03for Microsoft Quantum and Microsoft
11:06research and it was a wonderful
11:08experience I had an incredible journey
11:11you know I was on the proverbial track
11:14will um and then covid
11:18hit and there's nothing like some
11:21collective Global trauma and a little
11:23sprinkling of burnout to force
11:25perspective in your life and I had just
11:29gotten to this point where I had been
11:32ignoring myself and my personal
11:34well-being for so long that I got to
11:37this point where my mental reality and
11:40my physical reality were fragmented my
11:43physical reality in covid living alone
11:46in isolation was like Groundhogs Day
11:50right it was like the It's a Small World
11:52After All ride at Disney I'm like
11:54walking down the stairs and making my
11:56coffee and sitting at the couch and it's
11:59the same thing day in in day out and
12:01knock on wood it was safe but it was so
12:04mundane and then my mental reality was
12:08chaos anxiety fear anger you know all of
12:12those toxic emotions especially at the
12:14height you know 2020
12:162021 and I was finding that I could not
12:19bring these two back together I couldn't
12:21integrate again as my therapist like to
12:23call it right even though I had a
12:25therapist you know had all those
12:26structures I couldn't come back to and
12:29so at that point I said okay I have to
12:30take leave I took some time away from
12:32work I went back home to Florida which
12:34is you know home state for both me and
12:36Michael and I finally had this moment
12:40where my mental reality matched my
12:44physical reality my day-to-day
12:45experience who I was speaking with who I
12:48was talking to what what I was eating
12:49what I was doing and it was in that
12:51moment of reintegration and realignment
12:54with myself that suddenly like this
12:57whole other World open opened up to me
12:59and I realized no I did not want to make
13:03my way to becoming a VP at a major tech
13:05company what I wanted to do was have an
13:08impact in my imun immediate Community I
13:11wanted a role within community and I
13:13wanted that role to be something that
13:15supported the healing and well-being of
13:17others especially because it was so
13:19resonant for me at the time like I was
13:20going through myself I was seeing what
13:22impact it had for me and I wanted to pay
13:25that forward right and so in that moment
13:29I you know had the inspiration to sign
13:30up to be this year-long program to
13:33become an ayurvedic health and wellness
13:35counselor ayurveda if you're not
13:37familiar with it is the nutritional
13:38sister science to yoga um you know two
13:42sides of the same coin it was something
13:44that deeply influen my own culture's
13:45relationship to food as medicine so I
13:47felt very connected to it so I decided
13:50okay let me do this program best case
13:52scenario new career worst case scenario
13:55I'm just learning for myself and I'm
13:58happyish at might Microsoft I can stay
14:00fine uh and then two months into the
14:03program I was like nope this is what I'm
14:04going to be doing with my life so I left
14:07Microsoft in December and officially
14:09launched my business in March and it's
14:11been wonderful it's been completely life
14:15affirming that this is what I'm supposed
14:16to be doing um and then 12 days ago I
14:20found out that I have multiple sclerosis
14:22and my sense of purpose and my
14:25conviction in this work has strengthened
14:27even more you know it's a weird wild
14:30little thing that for the last year I
14:32was like completely reorienting the
14:35structure of my life to support my own
14:37personal well-being and the health of
14:38Wellness in others it's kind of like I
14:40was in a training camp almost for this
14:42moment and I feel very prepared for this
14:44moment because I know what keeps my mind
14:47body system in Balance what things are
14:49most nourishing to me what things cause
14:51inflammation and things that I should
14:53stay away from um and unfortunately a
14:56lot of people don't have that knowledge
14:58about themselves about their own system
15:00and that's what I'm trying to do is just
15:02to help others find their own sense of
15:05well-being and really understand what it
15:06means for them and how to protect it
15:09right so that's my story um is it cool
15:12if I share like a quick couple of
15:15sleds so I'm going to just give you like
15:17a high level overview of like why is it
15:20that I do what I do like what is the
15:22core of what we're trying to get out
15:24when we think about prioritizing and
15:26understanding your sense of well-being
15:28then I'll talk a little bit about like
15:30how do you get there very high level um
15:32and then we can just make it a
15:33conversation so I think that's more fun
15:37anything oky do share
15:48screen all right do you see that in
15:50slideshow mode yeah great okay so one of
15:55the very first things that we learn in
15:58IR beta is that we are not separate from
16:01nature we are an expression of nature
16:05it's like you know this NeverEnding
16:07chain of nesting dolls that we're a part
16:09of and one of the things that we know
16:11about natural systems is that they all
16:14have this tendency to move towards
16:17equilibrium or maintain a state of
16:19homeostasis or we can colloquially call
16:22it balance right you know we see this at
16:24the individual level let's take like a
16:26tree for example a tree process of
16:29maintaining homeostasis is you know the
16:32photosynthesis but we also see this on
16:34like a collective ecosystem level right
16:36trees of the same species in the same
16:39area maintain a collective homeostasis
16:42by sharing water and sugar and nutrients
16:45through the roots that are connected by
16:46my celium so that they can all
16:48photosynthesize at the same rate you
16:50know it's more of like an ecosystem
16:52balance and our mind body systems are no
16:55different they have that natural
16:57tendency to move move towards
16:59equilibrium or want to maintain a state
17:01of balance we essentially just have to
17:03get out of their way and so how do we
17:06start to understand whether we're in a
17:08state of balance or imbalance for
17:11ourselves gut feelings gut feelings are
17:15truly one of the primary ways that we
17:17come to understand where our system is
17:19at and there's two gut feelings that I
17:21want to bring our awareness
17:23to the first one is Cravings you know
17:27I'm craving something salt tea I'm
17:29craving a piece of salmon you know
17:30whatever it is and then the second one
17:33is intuition I feel like it's time for a
17:35change or I feel like this person is no
17:38good for me and we can think about these
17:41two gut feelings as coming from our
17:43physical gut you know our literal
17:45physical gut and our mental slash mental
17:49emotional gut right so let's let's take
17:52a look at a couple of examples to how
17:54these things come into play with our
17:57well-being it is Sunday night and you
18:00have been going out with your friends
18:01all weekends you've been eating pizza
18:04and french fries and burgers and
18:06drinking beer and now you feel like
18:09and you're so heavy and you're so full
18:11and it feels like grease is coming out
18:13of your pores and you're just like GH
18:15I'm just I just need something fresh I
18:17just need a piece of fruit or a salad
18:19whatever is so you make that salad or
18:21eat that piece of fruit and you start to
18:22bring yourself back to
18:24center it's Friday night it's been a
18:27long week of meetings you've been on
18:28Zoom non-stop your eyes are fatigued and
18:31your body's fatigued and your mind is
18:32fatigued and you're just like I just I
18:35need to stretch it out and so you go
18:37walk for a walk around the neighborhood
18:40and you start to bring yourself back to
18:42Center but unfortunately more often than
18:45not we all ignore these moments when our
18:49gut is telling us we're in a state of
18:51imbalance and it's trying to course
18:52correct right whether it's a a choice of
18:56convenience oh I have leftover pizza I
18:58might as well just eat that for dinner
18:59it's there or or comfort you know I
19:04don't really feel like going for a walk
19:05I'm just going to sit on the couch and
19:08watch Netflix for four
19:10hours and the problem when we do that
19:13when we ignore these little moments of
19:14communication from our system is that
19:17then we start to tilt tilt ourselves
19:19further and further and further into
19:21those states of imbalances and then we
19:24dealing with chronic imbalances and
19:26chronic imbalances lead to chronic
19:28disease and that's what we're trying to
19:30avoid we don't want to get to this place
19:32of burnout we don't want to get to this
19:34place where you know you haven't taken a
19:37break or you haven't been in service to
19:38your system for months on end and now
19:40you're stuck you don't want to do it's
19:42either cut and run or I don't know I
19:44don't know what the answer is we want to
19:46be able to catch ourselves in those
19:48moments along the way so that we're not
19:50in that you know chronic imbalan state
19:54and so how do you start to learn how to
19:56listen to your gut again like how do you
19:59hear what it's telling you how do you
20:01interpret its signals and how do you
20:02actually trust that what it's telling
20:05you is something that your system needs
20:07to maintain that balance versus
20:09something that maybe your your mind just
20:13desire well you can focus on improving
20:16both its form and its function um or we
20:20can think of this as nourishment what
20:22are you actually feeding your gut and I
20:24don't mean just your physical gut your
20:25mental and emotional gut too whether
20:27that is food nutrition water breath all
20:31the sensory experiences what are you
20:33taking Through Your Eyes Ears touch Etc
20:36and then you can focus on improving its
20:38function how are you actually breaking
20:41down all of those forms of nourishment
20:43do you feel like you're getting the the
20:45nutrient value or is it getting
20:47accumulated as waste in your mind
20:49because you're binging you're either
20:50binging information you're binging food
20:52whatever it is or is it running straight
20:54through you because you're not present
20:56because you're not taking it in and in
20:58ureda this dichotomy of Form and
21:01Function uh shows up through a framework
21:04of elements and energies I'm not going
21:06to spend a ton of time here because you
21:08know ayurveda is an ocean and I won't do
21:10it justice on one slide um but the
21:14principle within this philosophy is that
21:17all expressions of nature hold a
21:20combination of these elements and
21:21energies but each of us have our own
21:23unique proportion and ratio of them and
21:26let's take the energies for example you
21:28know we can think about creation
21:30transformation destruction on like a
21:32macro scale birth growth death but then
21:35you can also think about microscale like
21:37when you enter into a new relationship
21:38or you enter into a new job that is a
21:42transformation that is destroying bits
21:44of an old identity and creating bits of
21:46a new one and so this is all within us
21:49at all times and once we start to
21:51understand what our proportion and ratio
21:53is either in an ayurvedic Health
21:55framework or any health framework to be
21:59the reason why you do these things the
22:00reason why you seek out these Frameworks
22:02is that it it's kind of like finding the
22:04edge pieces to your puzzle right it
22:06helps you understand what your unique
22:09expression of health and well-being is
22:11and allow you to have a little bit more
22:13of a concise and well-defined playground
22:16to interpret your gut feelings your
22:18Sensations your emotions whatever
22:20because it's there's so much that you
22:22can bring awareness to we need a little
22:24bit of guidelines and so this is my job
22:26this is what I do for my clients I help
22:28them find those Edge pieces right within
22:29an ayurvedic framework
22:32specifically um but it doesn't need to
22:33be an aurvedic framework but luckily
22:35there's a lot of tools at our disposal
22:37we just need to bring our awareness to
22:38them so I want to open it up um for a
22:44chat if anyone feels so
22:47inclined how do you define well-being
22:51for yourself what does that mean to
22:55you and you can go off you can go off
22:59mic or you can put in chat whatever you
23:07feel can we google it yeah I think
23:12that's a great answer because it shows
23:15it's a a morphis thing
23:18right there's a social cultural
23:21definition of well-being I think that's
23:23very prominent right now it's like this
23:26colonized version of Eastern philosophy
23:29yoga meditation whatever I think that's
23:33popular is that true for
23:36everyone Michael I'm gonna call on you
23:38because I know you're very in touch with
23:42go maybe this is like I grew up in like
23:45a western culture of like Florida
23:48Chicago stuff and I think when I hear
23:53I I used to imagine like there was a
24:00a like I need to get a 90 out of a 100
24:02on Wellness like well is like like the
24:07state of everything is great and I don't
24:11know maybe well-being can be like your
24:14state is synchronized with what is going
24:16on in your environment or in your
24:17current circumstance and instead of like
24:21a goal of like I feel
24:25amazing yep I love that
24:32anyone else before I carry
24:36on I always think that oh sorry Matas go
24:40ahead no go ahead go
24:42ahead okay I'll go quickly um I always
24:45think that it's combination of like the
24:46physical and mental um and then having a
24:49sense of groundedness and then that
24:52inner pce that's kind of like okay the
24:55well-being is like s
24:58matus I was going to say the same
25:01combination of mental and physical like
25:05wellbeing and that you being rounded no
25:11no you you define it really
25:14going all right I love that um so yeah
25:19we can see it's pretty hard to Define we
25:20know generally like yeah my mind needs
25:23to be a certain way my body needs to be
25:26certain way I love what you said Michael
25:27maybe it's not a destination maybe it's
25:29a process my my mom being the Persian
25:33woman that she is has a metaphor for
25:35life that I've now adopted for metaphor
25:37for well-being um that life is like a
25:40game of back gaming right you can't
25:43control the role of the dice but you can
25:44control how you play the board I feel
25:47similarly about health versus Wellness
25:50Health is your role of the dice you know
25:52I got a shitty role I got an autoimmune
25:54disorder a lot of people have shitty
25:55roles you can't control that but
25:57Wellness well-being is how you play the
26:00board it is a process it is something in
26:03motion it is something that is dynamic
26:05it is something that yes Michael is
26:07relative to the environment around you
26:09relative to the environment within you
26:11that includes mental physical all these
26:15things but I think the thing that we
26:18should start to realize is well-being is
26:20not what we Define it in our heads with
26:23our minds well-being is what our body
26:25tells us our well-being it's
26:29body has the culmination of every
26:33natural optimization through the history
26:36of humankind programmed into our DNA it
26:39has way more wisdom than our mind does
26:42because our minds are sneaky little
26:43bastards right like they can lie to us
26:46they can be deceitful they can reason
26:49their way around every unhealthy
26:51attachment or rsion but our bodies
26:52cannot lie they're not capable of lying
26:55right they only speak the truth they
26:57they are like the the scouts with like
27:00the binoculars around their neck and
27:03like the little bed Vass being like
27:04danger danger like they they only speak
27:07the truth right and so I want us as we
27:09think about what is our well-being to
27:11stop thinking about it and just start
27:14listening for it within our
27:19once understanding what your well-being
27:21is is the first step to prioritizing
27:22right and so how do we do that first
27:24step awareness what were we're just
27:25talking about bring awareness back back
27:27into your body I think there's three
27:30things that are really productive
27:32because there's a lot of things you can
27:33bring awareness to I I would focus on
27:35three first one is your
27:37digestion um including your appetite
27:41what are you craving how hungry are you
27:44throughout the day what is the peak of
27:46your hunger versus you know the trough
27:49and then how is it moving through you
27:51when you eat are you feeling happy are
27:54you feeling sad do you feel full are you
27:56constantly hungry Ry do you feel
27:58bloating is there pain are you
28:01eliminating daily what does your
28:03elimination look like what texture is it
28:05what color is it what does it smell like
28:07if you go to the bathroom and you don't
28:08look back at the bowl you're doing it
28:10wrong you need to look down at the
28:12toilet every single time I know this is
28:14TMI but is really critical information
28:17your gut is your command and control
28:20center we quite literally become what we
28:23digest I think our our diet culture puts
28:26so much emphasis on food as calories
28:28food as energy but food is also
28:31biochemical material that then becomes
28:34tissues and so if we're not paying
28:36attention to how we're digesting we're
28:38we're missing a whole bit of information
28:40about our system so digestion is number
28:42one number two is sleep this one's very
28:45elusive it changes a lot but how are you
28:48sleeping is it a good night stress is it
28:50a bad night stress what were you doing
28:52the day before what kind of dreams were
28:54you having what were you doing leading
28:56up into bedtime were you scrolling on
28:59your phone or were you taking a moment
29:01for yourself just bring your awareness
29:03everything this is all data for you to
29:05train you know the machine learning
29:09right then the final one is
29:12joy joy is so productive to pay
29:17attention to when you feel joyful when
29:19you feel light when you feel full of
29:21gratitude when you feel grounded as
29:23people were saying what are you doing
29:26what is the environment around around
29:27you what is the feeling within you what
29:30is you know take note I think often
29:33times we write off Joy because it
29:39feel productive in the absolute and I'll
29:41give you an example my happiest place in
29:45life my most joyous moment my most gr
29:49gratitude filled grounded moment is when
29:52I'm sitting on a park bench people
29:55watching in front of some form of nature
29:58drinking a coffee listening to music
30:01that is my happy spot in
30:03life is that a job no as much as I wish
30:08that was a job it's not a job but that
30:10doesn't mean that's not a productive
30:12piece of information to have because if
30:14I look beyond the absolutes if I look to
30:17the qualities that make up that
30:19experience then I can start to pattern
30:21match and I can go fill my life with
30:23qualities that bring those forward so
30:25the parked bench example
30:28I have full agency and autonomy in that
30:30moment I'm completely by myself I'm an
30:33observation of others I love people I
30:36think they're fascinating I feel like
30:38I'm a part of community because I'm
30:40talking to people as they walk by I'm
30:42petting dogs I'm going gooo Gaga to
30:44babies and I feel connected to Nature
30:47something that very soothes my something
30:48that soothes my spirit I can cultivate
30:51these things in any situation it doesn't
30:53need to be on a park bench so pay
30:55attention to your joy and look Beyond
30:57beyond the absolute to find those
31:00qualities then as you start to do that
31:02as you bring that awareness you'll start
31:04to see what are the things the moments
31:06the types of food the forms of
31:08nourishment that throw me off balance
31:11and what are the things that keep me in
31:13it and when you do start to feel
31:16imbalanced recognize that balance comes
31:19through counterbalance you can only have
31:20balance in the presence of
31:22counterbalance and this is really
31:23important because again I think we've
31:25all subscribed to this like yogic
31:28mindful meditation Zen form of
31:31well-being but that kind of Stillness
31:33that works for someone who may be
31:36anxious and have spiraly thoughts and be
31:39very restless is not going to work for
31:41the person who is stagnant and low and
31:44depressed if anything that Stillness May
31:46tip them further and further into that
31:48stagnancy and so you have to be aware of
31:51where you are in the moment and this I
31:53think goes back to you know this
31:56question that you guys are having around
31:57like when do I take time off when what
32:01do I what can I do between them if I
32:03don't have a vacation or if I can't
32:05necessarily manage my schedule in the
32:08way that is going to be supportive to my
32:09well-being whatever that may be this
32:12thing this counterbalance thing is going
32:14to be really important for you every day
32:16I want you to take stop where was my
32:19mental and physical energy today was I
32:22hyperactive was I moving non-stop was it
32:27if so then the thing that I need right
32:30now is stillness I need to be soothing
32:32and still maybe it's the slow walk
32:35around the neighborhood maybe it is the
32:36meditation practice it's not the
32:39hyperactive energy expenditure because
32:41that's more like like increasing like
32:44right or were you sedentary all day were
32:48you still were you feeling low if you
32:49are feeling that stagnancy then break
32:52that up then the thing that is going to
32:53be the most therap therapeutic to you in
32:55that moment for that day or for that
32:57week is breaking it up right go do the
33:00run go do the dance class do go hang out
33:03with friends whatever it is that brings
33:04that energy back up and so these are
33:07that little moments where you can say
33:09I've been inching my way too much in
33:11this energetic expression I need to
33:14bring myself back to
33:15Center then as you practice those then
33:18as you start to feel what is my sense of
33:21well-being what is out of balance for me
33:23how do I bring myself back then the
33:25thing that worked the best for you turn
33:28them into rituals our entire existence
33:32from the cellular level all the way up
33:33to the cosmic layer happens in cyclical
33:36rhythms right and there's reasons for
33:40that there's optimization that comes
33:43when we do things at the same time every
33:45day if I go to bed or at least attempt
33:48to go to bed at the same time every
33:50night eventually I'm going to pav laav
33:52dog my body into sending me sleepy
33:54hormones so I can start to wind down if
33:57I have my biggest lunch of the day at uh
34:00my biggest meal of the day at lunch 12
34:01o'clock like clockwork every time my
34:04digestive juices are going to kick up to
34:06help me break that down and the reason
34:08why I say ritual over
34:13your Wellness your health your mind your
34:16body these things demand reverence these
34:20things are sacred they deserve your
34:23respect and so I don't call them
34:25routines I call them rituals I want you
34:27to bring that same type of reverence to
34:29these moments as you do any other
34:31community or spiritual ritual that you
34:35of so that's my soap box I'll step off
34:38of it now see if there's any questions
34:40thoughts Curiosities Reflections I'll
34:48sharing yes Mauricio I was talking about
34:52poo my favorite thing is to have people
34:55tell me everything about their about
34:57movement so whenever you need a friends
35:03know what what's coming up for you right
35:06now is there anything that you're like
35:07reflecting on in your
35:09life any choices any
35:14habits I would be really curious to hear
35:18um like from our experience as being
35:23like Founders like our daily life cycles
35:25like I guess what of randana is speaking
35:29on where does it where do these Concepts
35:32fit in our flows I think everyone on
35:34this call has a completely different
35:35schedule and a completely different like
35:37role depending on what the what kind of
35:39founder they are in their
35:40company um I'm just kind of curious
35:52yeah sorry Michael I didn't get what you
35:57answer like I'm I'm just kind of like
36:00like Rana talking about
36:03um like wellbeing and and gut health
36:06health and these rituals and um as we
36:11think about our schedule as Founders
36:15um where do some of these Concepts like
36:18fit in um I'm just having this like
36:21experience sitting here listening to
36:22this I'm like this is
36:25like this doesn't come up in
36:27conversation in the meetings I'm having
36:29like this is like yes we have like a
36:31check-in at the beginning of meetings to
36:32like see how we're doing for like a few
36:34minutes but it's very random and wavered
36:37so I'm just like yeah where do these
36:40Concepts fit into our current like
36:42day-to-day life cycle as
36:48Founders related to that and also what R
36:52was asking about how what challenges
36:54we're facing in our day to-day and my
36:56case like my schedule like I go changing
36:59between tasks like constantly like every
37:02minute almost like maybe 15 minutes here
37:0520 30 an hour and jumping on calls and
37:11that at the end of the day when my my
37:14day is like so split up between small
37:16tasks that I am doing it burns me out
37:19like I finish the day and I am like whoa
37:23yeah I need to go to bed and then some
37:27I block my time like more consciously
37:31maybe I try to do like more bigger
37:34chunks of work instead of like
37:36constantly going on small tasks and
37:39those days maybe I feel it a little bit
37:43so but you get as a Founder I think you
37:47you have to be in many places at the
37:49same time so you can't
37:52always work with huge blocks of time and
37:56that yeah that's that's one of my
37:57challenges and when in my day I am
38:00trying to prioritize this is in the
38:02morning I try to do like a small
38:04meditation that at least sets me up like
38:07I begin the day with like with the right
38:09foot that's something I'm doing but yeah
38:13I don't know I think that's beautiful
38:15like listen the goal is balance not
38:17Perfection if I'm I won't do it now
38:20because it's going to take me a while
38:22but if I'm standing on one foot right
38:24and my hand is out here and my leg is
38:27out here I'm balancing I'm doing it it's
38:31not that I'm not balancing it's just not
38:32sustainable if I hold this for a really
38:34long time eventually my ankle's going to
38:35give out my arm is going to get tired
38:37I'm going to fall apart the goal is not
38:40to never reach this state of balance you
38:42have to it's life it's going to happen
38:44but how do you bring yourself back to
38:46Center so you can sustain those moments
38:49how do you make sure that your your
38:51reserve of energy is protected so that
38:54you can stretch to that but then come
38:56back to C Center I think for you what
38:58you said about your morning meditation
39:00if we know that sleep is very critical
39:03to to well-being in general I would say
39:07yeah prioritize morning start the tone
39:09of your day before the madness begins
39:12even if it means waking up 30 minutes
39:14earlier to have that moment to come back
39:16to yourself and then prioritize the
39:19moment before you go to sleep don't just
39:21hop from work to Netflix straight to bed
39:25give yourself another 30 minute buffer
39:28that you can settle back down do
39:31whatever that counterbalancing thing is
39:33necessary for you in that moment and
39:36enter into a state of sleep a little bit
39:38more relaxed I would say those are very
39:41critical times but then know like when
39:43you can control when you can block out
39:45do it and on the days that you can't
39:48where can you find that little moment of
39:50reprieve if you have Constant Contact
39:53switching movement movement movement
39:55high energy lots of lot of critical
39:56thinking lots of judgment lot of
39:58decision making and then you feel
40:00energetically low by the end of the day
40:03that's okay like your body is having the
40:06right response in that moment because
40:08you've been so hyperactive your system
40:10is trying to get you to sit your ass
40:13down mentally and emotionally do it
40:16that's fine because that's what you need
40:18in that moment counterbalance don't hold
40:20judgment for yourself or not having the
40:23energy but when you can control do it
40:26but yeah morning and night I think these
40:28are really critical if your day is out
40:29of your control it's not yours make
40:31those make those in uh intentional
40:39yourself one thing I I'll also say is um
40:44oh sorry mace where you going no no like
40:48challenge I I tried for several weeks to
40:51do the the F you know and to read a book
40:55at the F and have a very good breakfast
40:57and and to spend that time for for
41:00myself and then also start working early
41:03know and I had so much done by 9 9:00 a.
41:07when all the team was connecting and so
41:09I felt like the anxiety of the day was
41:12vanished completely when I was doing
41:15that but I find I found it very hard to
41:21actually I would love to be able to do
41:23that because when I did that those were
41:26my happiest days you know and and all
41:29the all the way that the anxiety and so
41:32on was completely disappeared you know
41:35uh what are what were the main
41:38challenges for you that didn't allow you
41:42that uh well if you want to wake up at 5
41:47a.m you need to sleep
41:49early that was the main challenge also
41:52because of the family withm like my wife
41:55and so she likes to watch TV maybe late
41:59in the night and so it was hard to go to
42:02bed 9 9:00 a.m. and N sorry 900 p.m and
42:07and sleep early um maybe also because of
42:12I I couldn't make it to to go to sleep
42:22fire I couldn't make it but when I tried
42:27yeah you know I will say thinking about
42:31optimization getting your mind body
42:33system running on the clock that it
42:35wants to be running on that we're
42:37against predictability reputability
42:40these things are very helpful but I also
42:43like we tend to as a culture generally
42:48societies generally like binge healthy
42:53habits and then let them go
42:56and it's kind of this All or Nothing
42:58mentality and I would just encourage you
43:00to recognize that again it's not
43:02Perfection you're thinking about this
43:05how do I bring myself back to Center
43:07when I have the moment and the
43:08opportunity to bring myself back to
43:10Center so you don't need to do the 5: am
43:13perfect schedule every single morning if
43:15it doesn't work for you but if there is
43:17a day that it can work for you that you
43:19do have that little burst of energy of
43:22reducing your anxiety this is all net
43:25positive you know like you should be
43:27finding those moments even if they can't
43:29become routine even if you can't do them
43:31daily or even weekly if you can do them
43:33a couple times a month your system will
43:35be much better for it so just don't hold
43:39this like you know I think we hear all
43:42these stories of Founders and CEOs who
43:45have like these really intense schedules
43:47and they do these things every single
43:49day and they only wear one outfit so
43:51that they can do these things every
43:52single day like beautiful but they also
43:55have an insane amount of resources and
43:58people in her life that do other parts
44:00of their daily thing that we may not all
44:02have access to you don't have to be
44:04perfect with it but don't not do it just
44:07because you're not perfect with it like
44:09your system will want these things it
44:10needs these things so find that time
44:12when you can and know that again it's
44:15not there's value in just tipping the
44:18scale even a little bit closer to your
44:21Center sure no know that I I I'm meeting
44:25so many friends because of the
44:26fellowship from so far places I'm I'm
44:29what I'm doing is sheding calls very
44:32early in the morning like 6 6:30 so I
44:36have something to wake up for and that's
44:52here yeah um I have a question actually
44:56anyone else should have um I'm curious R
44:59like when or how do you balance between
45:02listening to the gut feeling um to
45:06perseverance I think um the word that
45:08I'm going to use is like the word lazy
45:10is always like so I don't know people we
45:14we don't like it as a society because it
45:16had such a bad connotation and sometimes
45:18like my friends would tell me that don't
45:20say lazy like you're unwilling because
45:22your body or like your mind is telling
45:23you something at the same time how can
45:25we balance it with um perseverance
45:27because sometimes you this is a way for
45:29you to reach your long-term goal so I'm
45:33curious is there a possibility for our
45:36gut feeling or our body or our mind
45:38fools us to becoming a CCH potato well
45:41this is time for us like to show up for
45:43ourself um that would make us happier
45:46later yeah well yes when you are in an
45:51imbalanced state if you stay there for
45:53too long then you start to Crave the
45:56thing that keeps you in an imbalanced
45:58State like that pizza weekend beer
46:02example right like you have that initial
46:04reaction of like GH I feel full and
46:06greasy and whatever but then you keep
46:07eating it and then all you want is the
46:09pizza the beer the whatever it is um
46:12this is just where it just comes back to
46:14again bringing that awareness into
46:16yourself and really being mindful of how
46:19long have you been in that state is it
46:21something that has been a persistent
46:26um do you feel like it's still serving
46:28you are you getting like if you've been
46:30sitting on the couch feeling like you
46:32need rest do you feel rested do you have
46:34the energy now or do you still feel like
46:37depleted in Aura the belief is that it
46:42days um 30 31 days for the nutrients
46:47that you've consumed to then be absorbed
46:50by your tissue level and so anything
46:53that is going to be sustained change for
46:56you should be a practice for 30 days to
47:00see if it actually fits feels good
47:03whatever again it doesn't need to be a
47:04perfect 30 days but the expectation is
47:06like nothing's really going to shift
47:07unless you keep it up for 30 days um and
47:11so if you feel like you've been in a
47:13stagnant or whatever state for about a
47:17month you know maybe maybe that's a time
47:20to consider redirecting yourself in a
47:22different direction because now it's
47:24starting to become embedded in your
47:34you um on the team level like as you're
47:38thinking about your organizations your
47:40teams even like the network
47:47counterbalance can be productive right
47:51like if you just went through a crazy
47:53period for your business and you know
47:55that everyone has been working Round the
47:58Clock and it's been super high energy
48:00and it's been fun you know there's some
48:02kind of Rush that comes when you're all
48:03working together and working late nights
48:06and there's there's a sense of purpose
48:08that comes with it um but just recognize
48:12that that is high energy lots of
48:14movement lots of intensity the thing
48:17that is going to be the most helpful to
48:19your team after one of those moments is
48:21the counterbalance it's the slow it's
48:24the still it's the intentional it's the
48:27soothing things and so I think you know
48:32like what would be helpful for folks is
48:35an opportunity to like disengage a
48:36little bit you know whether it's
48:38vacation whether it's less meetings you
48:40know reduce that high energy interaction
48:44versus let's go we just got off this
48:46High let's go like schedule a whole
48:49bunch of like fun celebratory meetings
48:51all the time you know happy hour were
48:53there happy hour were there like that is
48:55again more of that high-intensity
48:58engagement and then if it's a slower
49:00period through work your team has had
49:02this time to go off on their own work on
49:04their own maybe you guys haven't because
49:06you're the founders but everyone else
49:07has where can you find those moments of
49:10generating energy again bringing
49:12everyone together pulling that that um
49:15productivity up not in like a
49:18productivity work way but in the like
49:20creativity up so think about as a team
49:24collectively where is the energy tilting
49:27throughout the business and
49:28intentionally find those moments to do
49:30the opposite to find people to give
49:32people a chance to come back to to
49:42Center other questions other
49:52thoughts so you don't have to have any
49:54either we can give you
50:00um yeah I guess I'll throw in one last
50:05um I'm kind of thinking
50:09like uh Skyler mentioned something at
50:11the beginning of this call
50:14of if these kinds of topics were to
50:17embed themselves into more spaces that
50:29this very helpful topics more accessible
50:32to Founders that aren't like um in the
50:35dayto day they don't view this dayto day
50:40um I don't know it's not really a
50:42thought it's more of like an open
50:43question for like life going on life
50:45going forward but um yeah is there a
50:49responsibility of a community like
50:51transcend to I don't know integrate this
50:55somewhere where or is this something we
50:58just you know call in Rana wants a
51:00quarter to come and chat one of our
51:03sessions or I don't know at our live
51:04Retreat or something I don't know like
51:09yeah well as much as I I would love to
51:12sign up for all the things so count me
51:13in any time um but if we think
51:20people understand their own well-being
51:22as an organization that is like creating
51:24community and establishing this network
51:27like that is something that you can do
51:29absolutely like I think I'm sure there's
51:33in your process a bunch of support
51:36around finding Mission and purpose and
51:41Core Business objectives you know like
51:42you have you have that support for how
51:46to people launch this thing grow this
51:48thing that they're doing in their work
51:50you can apply the same principles to
51:52their own personal well-being you know
51:54prompting people training people to
51:56reflect and stop like what is my
51:59definition of well-being how do I find
52:00that where do I find the most Joy what
52:03are the qualities behind those moments
52:05of Joy how do I pattern match and
52:07cultivate them elsewhere am I bringing
52:10awareness to to my system collectively
52:13are we bringing awareness to our system
52:14Michael you said like in the beginning
52:16you check in like how's everyone feeling
52:18can you get a little bit sharper on that
52:20how's everyone sleeping how's everyone's
52:22emotional state has everyone been eating
52:25you know like let's let's break it down
52:27get a little bit closer to the body
52:29those moments of counterbalance I think
52:31we've talked about like that can be a
52:34simple training guide of like you know I
52:38I think breaking the Norms of what
52:40Wellness is especially on like a team
52:43organizational level and a little bit
52:46further on like the energy flow as you
52:48said like in ayurveda there's kind of
52:50three main buckets of energy flows that
52:55hyperactivity lots of movement lots of
52:58restlessness that gets coincided with
53:01anxiety uh can sit still if you will the
53:05second one is an inflammation heat
53:10anger inflammatory responses in our body
53:13and then the third one is a stickiness
53:15it's a stagnancy it's a strong
53:18attachment to stuff that we don't want
53:20to let go it's a depression it's all
53:23things can you watch for as
53:26organizational leaders these three
53:27energy Peaks and can you be mindful
53:29about counterbalancing them Stillness
53:32cooling soothness energy production
53:36counterbalancing those three things and
53:38then rituals you know I think like again
53:41all in different companies across the
53:45world doing different things but what
53:47are your rituals as transcend and then
53:49within your own organizations what are
53:50your rituals that you can have these
53:53moments of reverence for each other for
53:55your system mind body system whatever it
53:57is you know where do you step away from
54:03um cultural obsession with production
54:06and consumption and just create a ritual
54:09around existence like let's just be each
54:11together I don't know what that looks
54:12like for y'all uh and knowing the
54:15leadership team that you have I know
54:16that's probably a big part of that that
54:19humanity is probably really big part of
54:20transcend network but where where can
54:23you be more intentional like this is a
54:25ritual these like round tables are
54:27rituals these are great where else can
54:39folks what were the three um so like
54:43think hyperactivity lots of movement
54:45anxiety restlessness whatever can't sit
54:48still second one is irritability and
54:50inflammation like your mind is AFF
54:52flamed your body's AFF flamed anger
54:55you're you're hot hot uh and then the
54:58third one is like a stickiness and a
55:01low you know can't can't get up can't
55:05move can't think you know all that stuff
55:08um those are the extremes obviously but
55:10then the counterbalance of those it's
55:13can't sit still you need to be still if
55:15it's your you're too hot you need to
55:17cool down if it's you're too stagnant
55:19you need to break it
55:25I saw Mauricio um unmuted for a second
55:28wanted to double check if you wanted to
55:35you I was wondering if how many of you
55:38maybe do shaling to bring awareness to
55:42your day today that's another ritual
55:45that I find hard to to keep to do
55:47Journal you know and to see how I was in
55:51the day how I felt what happened how can
55:56but I found it very useful to to bring
55:59awareness to my dayto day yeah and
56:02writing it down I feel like we tend to
56:06operate in our minds so much and then
56:09there's something about typing that is
56:11not quite that conversion into physical
56:15it's it's so I don't know maybe it works
56:18for some people but I think the physical
56:19act of writing there's something about
56:21it that unites mind and body a little
56:23bit better that I would just recommend
56:25like if you want to bring that awareness
56:26and you want to track that awareness if
56:28you want to see the data over time write
56:31it down journal great end of night
56:38routine thank you I think that was um
56:41really tangible advice that we perfect
56:44time to like also close this but Rena
56:46thank you so much I think all of us I
56:49see I I recognize myself and also see
56:51your faces that we all went on our own
56:54journey to reflect on how we are doing
56:57and then how we are feeling so that's I
56:59think that's great um and it's something
57:01that there's a lot of things that I walk
57:03away with personally that's a lot of
57:05things that I walk away as I'm thinking
57:07about community so I really appreciate
57:09um your time again um so I think with
57:12that we can close um together and then
57:14do our ritual but honestly routine uh
57:19but I wanted to invite you to also do it
57:20Mari already um if we all can go of mute
57:24uh fedash SK I'm going to share music
57:28and Mario could I ask you to lead us
57:30today on our go team sure H yeah this
57:38is in front of the camera and then we do
57:42this three two one go team go
57:51much thank you thank you
