00:00wgu very interesting school um you know
00:03i did a video about a year back where i
00:05told people to you know kind of avoid
00:08online schools if possible with a few
00:10exceptions and one of the exceptions
00:12that i mentioned was wgu now a lot has
00:16happened since then in the world since i
00:18did that video uh pretty much all
00:20schools are online at this point so i
00:22think uh it kind of calls for a little
00:25bit of an update um maybe here in the
00:27next few months but um let me know about
00:30wgu what was your experience like with
00:33wgu sure so i i had kind of seen it
00:37online quite a bit before i actually
00:39enrolled in it and i i was a member of
00:41this forum it used to be called tech
00:43exams uh i think it's called like i
00:45forget what it's called now in bosec
00:46something community um but anyway i i
00:49kind of watched it for like a couple
00:52figured what it was about at least the
00:54i.t degree portion of it basically like
00:56with wgu you you pay for a semester at a
00:59time so you pay for like six months or i
01:02guess they call it a term and then you
01:03can complete like whatever you can
01:05complete in that six months is fair game
01:08so basically the idea is um what what i
01:10did and like what a lot of people do is
01:12they'll they'll register and they'll
01:14enroll and then they'll just try to do
01:17as many classes as they can they'll be
01:19like really disciplined about it and
01:20just knock out as many classes as they
01:22can like kind of thus decreasing the
01:24time it takes to get a bachelor's degree
01:25and then kind of decreasing the amount
01:27that you end up paying for tuition and
01:29it's really good um you can pretty much
01:31get out of it as much as you want
01:33because it's regionally accredited and a
01:36lot of the curriculum are industry
01:37recognized starts from like comptia for
01:39example or cisco or ise squared
01:43so like some of the classes will be like
01:45to pass this class you need to get your
01:46comptia a plus certificate so it works
01:49out really well especially for it
01:50because by the time you graduate you'll
01:52have like a bunch of certificates
01:54already and a bachelor's degree so it's
01:58so yeah i had that's pretty much what i
02:00did i tried to like complete
02:02a lot of the certs before i actually
02:04enrolled so i i could kind of compress
02:06the time that i spent actually enrolled
02:08doing wg work and then once i enrolled i
02:10just tried to like bang it bang out the
02:12degree as fast as i could hey guys shane
02:15from the future really quickly i wanted
02:17to say that there are a few resources
02:19down in the description it will be at
02:20the very top that i think are good when
02:22it comes to it one of them is going to
02:25be a certification that is very common
02:27and it's a good way to kind of dip your
02:29toe into it and see if it's the right
02:31thing for you and it can also help you
02:32to get an entry level job or maybe an
02:35internship and then the other one is a
02:37website that allows you to quickly test
02:39out of different classes at a fraction
02:41of the cost at study.com so definitely
02:43check out both of those down in the
02:45description below got it so yeah um i
02:48would say you know i haven't looked into
02:50all wgu degrees so i'm not saying that
02:53you know everybody watching this video
02:55should go there but i would say from
02:57from the research i've done there are
02:59certain degrees where wgu would be a
03:02great option because you could get it
03:04done in maybe you know six months to a
03:05year and it would hold the same weight
03:08as a four-year degree from somewhere
03:10else and it would also be a lot cheaper
03:12so that is an option for some people to
03:14look into you know make sure to do your
03:16own research never believe someone on
03:18the internet make sure to do your
03:19research for yourself
03:20so it's a good option for you
03:22i can say that out of the online school
03:25options that does seem by far like one
03:28of the best options i've heard
03:30mostly i would say like 99
03:33positive reviews uh from people who have
03:37um yeah uh thank you for uh talking
03:40about that that was uh i think i might
03:41actually make a video on them at some
03:43point we'll see yeah people search
03:45people search it a lot so let's say that
03:47somebody doesn't really have any
03:49experience in it but they are interested
03:51in getting into it how would they go
03:53about getting into the field i actually
03:55made like a whole video on this and i
03:57kind of talked about it a little bit in
03:58this in this interview but
04:01people can always kind of make their own
04:03experience like a portfolio i guess if
04:08so for example i guess the best way to
04:10explain this would be if
04:13like a lot of computer science majors
04:14like when they graduate and they want to
04:16go into software engineering um in
04:18addition to their degree they'll kind of
04:20make a portfolio like they'll build some
04:21applications or like a web app or
04:23something they'll create like a github
04:25where potential employers can like go
04:27and look at their the stuff they made
04:29and kind of maybe get a feel
04:33how good they are i guess or
04:35the different technologies they've
04:36worked in so you can kind of take that
04:38same concept and apply it to information
04:40technology or cyber security or like
04:42kind of whatever field you're trying to
04:44get into so for example
04:46if you want to get into it you might
04:48look at some technologies that are like
04:50really in use today and like a lot of
04:53active directory is pretty much used
04:55everywhere and then maybe azure like
04:57azure ad or any concepts within azure or
05:00aws because that's pretty much like a
05:02lot of businesses use that and then
05:04um you can take for example like active
05:06directory and kind of like create some
05:08content around it like maybe a blog post
05:10or like a cheap youtube video or
05:11something and kind of showcase your
05:13skills like set up the environment like
05:14create some users use powershell or
05:17and like take that and then publish it
05:19like on your linkedin or like your
05:21youtube or blog or wherever and then you
05:23can put it on your resume as well and
05:25that kind of becomes like uh experience
05:28it works really well because um if the
05:30employer wants to you can put links on
05:32your resume by the way because it's it's
05:342021 and they can go and look at it and
05:36it's kind of like tangible tangible
05:38evidence as to like how how good you are
05:41like show them if you've worked with
05:42this specific technology so it's a
05:46good way to kind of generate experience
05:48for yourself um if you don't have
05:50experience yet so i would highly
05:51recommend anyone do that it's like super
05:53powerful and it's really underutilized
05:55especially getting your first job
05:57i i totally agree i think that's like
06:00kind of an out of the box way of doing
06:02it and you know when it comes to uh
06:05applying to certain jobs a lot of the
06:07time the best thing that you can do is
06:09kind of stand out a little bit you know
06:12what a lot of people try to do i think
06:13and i think this is true for some things
06:15it's good to not stand out in certain
06:17areas uh for some things but um when it
06:20comes to like showcasing your skills and
06:22projects and that sort of thing i think
06:24it's a great idea to stand out so you
06:27know some things i've seen people do is
06:29make videos like like uh record a video
06:32of themselves kind of pitching
06:34themselves to companies for instance
06:36um it kind of it kind of just
06:38demonstrates to the company that you are
06:40someone who thinks outside of the box
06:42you're able to not only showcase the
06:45skill but do it in a very creative way
06:48and you know what that tells me for
06:49instance if i'm a hiring manager or a
06:51business owner is that you're going to
06:53be very flexible and you're going to be
06:54able to learn stuff on the fly that kind
06:56of demonstrates that to me would you
07:00absolutely i would absolutely agree with
07:04your video pros oh okay it fixed it
07:07again sorry guys if you if you saw that
07:09i don't know if i'm gonna put that out
07:11or not um i'm having some internet
07:14it's raining outside so
07:17uh thank you again for your patience
07:18josh appreciate that
07:20yeah no no no problem we're having a
07:25uh very important question this is a
07:27personal finance channel after all and i
07:29always like to say this guys money is
07:33it is important you know uh you don't
07:35want to be doing stuff for free so and
07:37this is a personal finance channel this
07:39is what a lot of the people came for so
07:42uh what kind of a pay can you expect uh
07:45getting into the ift field uh both right
07:47off the bat and then maybe you know a
07:49few years down the line so this is a
07:53it kind of depends on where you live a
07:55little bit a little bit um but for the
07:58getting into the field you can you can
08:00expect maybe around between like 40 to
08:0355k for like a help desk for a help desk
08:06job and maybe much more than that in
08:08metropolitan areas but just starting off
08:10it'll probably probably be somewhere
08:12around 50k or something like this
08:15and you you'll kind of notice um as you
08:18as you go through your career
08:22this is just my opinion so kind of take
08:24it with a grain of salt um like the more
08:26you have the more you have to do things
08:28that are like creative um so for example
08:32uh if you're somebody who follows
08:33process for example and just does stuff
08:36for the business like help desk and like
08:37closing tickets your salary salary will
08:40be like a little bit lower than somebody
08:42who like defines process like somebody
08:44who writes procedures for like the help
08:46desk people to do or somebody who like
08:48designs the network versus somebody who
08:50just like fixes uh like an out of like a
08:52simple outage or something like this it
08:54um so kind of the more you get it you
08:57transition into like
09:00defining process and like designing
09:01stuff and like the more you get closer
09:04to like dealing with people like um
09:07organizing like projects and that kind
09:08of stuff here pay like tends to go up a
09:14the more you change jobs
09:19this isn't a hard rule but generally the
09:22more you change jobs the faster your
09:23salary will go up so for example um for
09:28uh sorry to i'm not trying to like shill
09:29my videos but i made a video that like
09:31outlines my whole like career and my
09:33salary progression and if if you look at
09:35that there was like one period of time
09:36where i i worked uh at the same job for
09:39about seven years or something and my
09:40salary went something like um 50k to 52k
09:43to 54k to 57k to like 60k like every
09:47year and it's like it's pretty it's
09:48pretty slow um but when you
09:51if you make an effort to like upgrade
09:53your skills and like change jobs it'll
09:54be more something like 50k to like you
09:57know 65k to like 77k to like 90k it will
10:01like it tends to jump like quite a bit
10:06the more you get to like
10:08the closer another kind of rule of thumb
10:10is like the closer you get to the
10:12end of things the more your salary goes
10:14up so for example um i'm like a
10:17i don't like my job right now but i'm a
10:19program manager like cyber security
10:21program manager and um
10:23i i have some technical aspects but
10:26my job kind of um involves a lot of uh
10:29orchestrating of other humans and um
10:32making sure the the business i guess is
10:34compliant so it tends to
10:37have like a higher salary my salary
10:39right now is like 130k
10:46depends on like what you want to do if
10:48you want to do like hard technical stuff
10:50and you don't want to like interface
10:51with people like that that much it it
10:54may possibly be lower than if you work
10:56with management and like business and
10:57stuff but starting out 50k
11:00and then kind of the the upper end
11:01without getting into like c-suite pay
11:03it's going to be like maybe like 150k
11:06and then to breach a 150k you have to do
11:09some like um real like hard stuff like
11:12principle like software engineer or
11:13something like this or like a cto or or
11:16something like this or you know work in
11:17san francisco i suppose but i hope that
11:20answers like kind of all over the place
11:21but hopefully it gives like a sense of
11:23what the pay is like yeah that that's a
11:25great answer um i would say just uh
11:28generally one thing i've heard in the
11:30tech field you know moving to silicon
11:32valley you're going to have a lot of
11:34opportunity high pay there
11:36tech computer science etc there are some
11:38other places that are kind of in the
11:40middle they're not necessarily maybe as
11:42expensive as silicon valley but they
11:44still have decently high pay and again
11:47from what i've heard
11:48new york seattle maybe austin would be
11:51some some other decent options there for
11:54uh you know getting some experience and
11:56getting up to that high pay grade and
11:58then maybe later on down the line after
12:00you've gotten that experience you can
12:02kind of move wherever you want would you
12:04say that's kind of uh a good idea yeah
12:07definitely agree with with everything
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