00:02I have a lot of complicated feelings on
00:04Trump um there's a weird history between
00:07the two of us Megan Kelly may she rest
00:09in peace she's sort of making a career
00:12by pretending she likes me the more you
00:14fire at him the bigger he gets it's not
00:16even about him anymore it really is
00:18about saving America so many Hollywood
00:20stars have zero possibly less sense of
00:24humor about themselves Robert dairo out
00:26there saying what a disgusting character
00:28Donald Trump is and how he could never
00:30never play him the guy played Al Capone
00:33do you worry about what might happen in
00:35America if the attempt to stop Trump
00:38running turned out to be successful
00:40there will be riots appear there are
00:42going to be riots in America either way
00:44it kind of summed up her ineffectiveness
00:47as a vice president because she's about
00:49the worst representative we could have
00:51I'm sorry she's too dumb are the days
00:55these are the days these are the days of
00:58girlhood makes a mockery of women I
01:01don't know that Dylan's getting off
01:02dressing like a woman I think Dylan is
01:04exploiting he's making he's rolling in
01:07DOP Pi that empathetic nature especially
01:10held by females was exploited to a place
01:14that ironically wound up endangering us
01:16they wanted to whip out their penises
01:22object America's obsession with where's
01:25Kate was relentless cities like Kim
01:27Kardashian and Blake Lively joked about
01:28her whereabouts even the White House
01:30commented on photoshopping images when
01:33the truth was finally revealed about the
01:34princess of Well's cancer diagnosis some
01:37people well at least had the good grace
01:38to apologize late Lively took to
01:40Instagram to say I'm sure no one cares
01:42today but I feel I have to acknowledge
01:44this I made a silly post around the
01:45Photoshop fails frenzy and oh man that
01:47posted me mortified today well joining
01:50me now is Megan Kelly the host of the
01:51Megan Kelly show available on YouTube
01:53and sirious ex Megan great to see you
01:56great to be here how are you tell me
01:59first of all how you are about all this
02:01Royal stuff it seems to have been a
02:02Relentless roller coaster but I'm
02:04British this is my royal family my
02:07monarchy I have a certain perspective on
02:09it from there what is yours like
02:11watching all this from across the
02:13pond well I come into it a little you
02:16know from a different angle first of all
02:18I'm American so I'm you know Team
02:19America but once I go across the pond
02:22I'm Team Royals I'm I'm team William and
02:25Kate and definitely not team Sussex so
02:27that's that's my entry point to most
02:30uh America first and then if I'm
02:32overthinking about England I'm Pro
02:34Royals but only those Royals not the
02:36ones who came back to my country how do
02:38we get stuck with them um well they send
02:42back but I think it's fine like I I'm
02:44not as offended by the speculation
02:45around Kate as some are because she's
02:48the most famous person in the world I
02:50mean literally she's one of the most
02:51famous people in the world and so of
02:53course there's going to be intense
02:54interest in her and they misled you know
02:58there there was some misleading going on
02:59there there and certainly with the
03:00photoshopped photo fail um that's just
03:03that's going to set up media Firestorm
03:05I've seen it enough times in my career
03:06to think okay yeah that's what's going
03:08to happen every time no matter who you
03:09are and so now they did the right thing
03:12they finally put her out to speak to it
03:14directly as uncomfortable as that must
03:15have been and I think people should
03:17start to behave better now that that's
03:19happened I mean the the stuff that got
03:21to me actually which I thought crossed
03:22the line was stuff like Steven col
03:24Bear's whole skit about the state of the
03:27wales's marriage based on a completely
03:30unfounded Story by the way but putting
03:32that side for one for one moment when he
03:35did that he knew she'd had major
03:36abdominal surgery right which for any
03:38woman is going to be a tough thing she's
03:40got three young kids and she's trying to
03:42recover from that that's without knowing
03:44that she had cancer as well I just
03:46thought that was crossing a line to
03:48start openly mocking this woman about
03:51the state of her marriage um and then I
03:54thought that John Oliver saying well she
03:56may have been dead for 18 months as well
03:59again you know obviously he didn't know
04:02how bad it was but he knew she'd have
04:03major surgery it seems to me that you
04:06got to have some lines in this even if
04:09comedic well you know the the the
04:11question for me is why don't you
04:13actually ask the questions you know if
04:14you actually want answers the questions
04:16put on somebody like Piers Morgan put on
04:18somebody who actually knows something
04:19about the royal family and ask the
04:21question is Kate okay is she alive is
04:25there a body double that the RO like
04:26just ask the questions if you really
04:28want to know they didn't really want to
04:29know no they just wanted to use it for
04:30clicks and those two in particular do
04:33everything for clicks they're not based
04:35in truth they at one point just wanted
04:37to make people laugh now they just want
04:39Applause for saying the right incendiary
04:41thing about Republicans or the Royals or
04:44whatever their latest Target is but it's
04:46why they have absolutely no ratings
04:48anymore peers and they're getting
04:49crushed by people like Gutfeld over at
04:51Fox regularly they're not funny look at
04:53Kimmel doing the Academy Awards recently
04:56he wasn't going for lavs he he knows his
04:58new business is to be loved because he's
05:01the former fat guy who likes to make fun
05:03of Donald Trump that'll get him enough
05:05tune in each night to pay his fat salary
05:08and that's enough for him I mean I
05:09remember the day when we actually tuned
05:11in for a couple of Chuckles at the end
05:12of the evening those are long gone well
05:14you know what made me love was I mean
05:16about award shows in Hollywood I mean
05:17the greatest ever obviously was Ricky
05:19Javas but he was never allowed back
05:21after he ripped them all to pieces at
05:23the Golden Globes knowing it was going
05:25to be his last appearance it remains one
05:27of the great 10 minutes of television
05:29I've ever watched mainly because it was
05:31quite obvious that so many Hollywood
05:33stars have zero possibly less sense of
05:37humor about themselves they're fine
05:39dishing it out they're often quite
05:41 people from my experience but
05:43whoa if you turn the turrets on them the
05:48themselves and the disgusting hypocrisy
05:52Pierce it's like I I did a bit last week
05:55on after the Academy Awards where you
05:57know they've lectured us for how many
05:59years now about how they've become super
06:02racially sensitive and they believe in
06:04the race essentialism message of the
06:05left and meanwhile who do they get to
06:07host the Academy Awards Mr blackface
06:10himself Jimmy Kimmel who's worn it so
06:13many times I've lost count the full
06:16black face with the bald head as Carl
06:21Ebonics in a fat suit as Oprah with the
06:24black face darning socks sure that's our
06:27champion that's our guy Jimmy come on we
06:30love it and then you've got you know
06:32Robert dairo out there saying what a
06:34disgusting character Donald Trump is and
06:36how he could never play him in a movie
06:38because there's absolutely nothing
06:39redeeming about him meanwhile the guy
06:42played Al Capone who's one of the most
06:45infamous Mobsters ever reportedly killed
06:47hundreds of people not to mention the
06:50character he played in Goodfellas who
06:51was based on an actual mobster who
06:53killed people and actually did stab that
06:55guy in the back of the car that's fine
06:57but Donald Trump well you know know
06:59there was the overturning of row thanks
07:01to his Supreme Court Justices so no it's
07:03just also to be honest about Robert Dair
07:06I mean I I had the torture of
07:07interviewing him once and I've been
07:09warned he just was a terrible guy to
07:12interview he just hated doing them to
07:13which I I thought well why do them then
07:15but he does a lot of interviews in which
07:17he invariably behaves like a dick to the
07:20journalist and you're like well why do
07:21them you don't have to do them you're
07:23Rober dairo all right and and it's just
07:28that he wants to get his message out I
07:31mean that's that's his main goal hear
07:34him say yeah how terrible Donald Trump
07:36is because he still thinks it's going to
07:40have an effect on you I mean what's
07:42happening right now appears is they're
07:44do they're putting Christine blasy Ford
07:46out on a media tour uh because she has a
07:48book out now who's Christine blasy Ford
07:50your viewers may or may not remember her
07:52from a few years ago she's the woman who
07:54accused our now sitting Supreme Court
07:56Justice Brett Kavanaugh of having
07:59attempted a sexual assault or actually
08:00committing one against her 30 years ago
08:03she brought it up only when he was being
08:05confirmed to the Supreme Court turned
08:07into a complete circus why why does she
08:10get the book now and this is years this
08:12is back in 18 this happened so now here
08:15we are in 24 and now she writes a book
08:17and now she gets a media Tour all over
08:19NPR and the view and CBS why because
08:23we're a couple months before an election
08:24because they're trying to remind people
08:26Republicans are rapists Donald Trump
08:29appointed a rapist to the Supreme Court
08:32that's what they want people to believe
08:34and it's going to have absolutely no
08:36effect exactly the same amount of effect
08:38as Robert dairo saying Trump is bad and
08:40he'll never play him in their minds they
08:43still have power it will have effect but
08:45not the way they think because you've
08:46seen from the way that they've all gone
08:48after Trump with all these criminal
08:50charges some of which are patently
08:52absurd and are massive overreach that
08:55even Republicans who don't like Trump
08:57and wish they had another candidate have
08:58gravitated ated behind him because they
09:00see it as just a complete liberal Witch
09:03Hunt not to say that some of those
09:05charges may not have validity I want I
09:07want to see all the evidence in a
09:08courtroom um but to Chuck 91 charges all
09:11that's happened when you get down to
09:13paying off porn stars it's like really
09:15and and all that's happened is it's
09:17fueled his popularity it turned him from
09:20someone really struggling to get any
09:22traction with Ron Des Sanz miles ahead
09:24and suddenly all changes you know got a
09:27feel a bit for D Sanz there he was way
09:29ahead and then bang in come the criminal
09:31charges against Trump and the more they
09:33chucked at him the more popular Trump
09:36got to the extent that now I would say
09:38he's an overwhelming favorite to win
09:40back the White House and if he does the
09:42Liberals have only themselves to blame
09:44it's been a concerted deliberate Act of
09:47self harm and I think all these Court
09:50appearances Trump will turn them because
09:52he knows television he understands the
09:54power of a camera better than anyone in
09:56political history he will use this to
09:58fuel his popularity even more as the
10:01Marty the victim the guy they're trying
10:04to stop be president it's a great
10:06marketing campaign isn't it for him yeah
10:09I completely agree and it's not just the
10:11criminal trials it's the Civil trials
10:13where they're trying to ruin and take
10:15away his business that he spent his
10:16entire life building you know we just
10:18had an appet Court in New York strike
10:20down the uh $450 million bond that he
10:24was going to have to post just to appeal
10:26that enormous judgment just to just to
10:28appeal he had to post the actual
10:30Judgment of $450 million against his
10:33business for a an alleged victimless Act
10:36of overstating some values of his
10:38buildings no one was complaining except
10:40for the hardly partisan Democratic
10:42attorney general anyway more and more
10:45these things are slightly getting
10:46resolved in Trump's favor and I think
10:48ultimately most of them will but at the
10:50same time you've got from the same
10:52Playbook as Christine blasy Ford and
10:54Robert Jer all that you've got Stormy
10:56Daniels the said porn star you just
10:59she's on another media tour of her own
11:01Pier it's so obvious and she's talking
11:05about now how she sees her trist with
11:08the president he wasn't president at the
11:10time it was 06 as like more of a me too
11:13situation because even though she'd been
11:16a porn star for and you can you can
11:19sexually assault a porn star I'm not
11:20suggesting otherwise but that she now
11:22sees a differently because of the words
11:25he was saying about how whether she
11:26really liked her job and whether she
11:29wanted to keep the job and maybe that
11:30was an implicit threat like she was
11:33going to lose her porn star role unless
11:35she acted like a porn star in the I yeah
11:38live interview stormy I interviewed
11:40stormy last year and that certainly
11:42wasn't what she was thinking at the time
11:44right let's just be clear right and and
11:46she knows it we know it and I've got a
11:48lot of sympathy I like it she's a she's
11:49a great character but I I agree she's
11:51milking this as you would expect right I
11:53mean she wants her piece so the media
11:56yeah she wants a bit of media attention
11:57while she can get it and good luck to
11:59her um the other story that's really
12:01caught my eye I know you've been reving
12:02in but this extraordinary situation with
12:05the Georgia prosecutor Fanny Willis who
12:08was having this relationship uh with one
12:10of the special prosecutors that she
12:12appointed Nathan Wade um he's now
12:14obviously had to leave it but talk about
12:16playing into Trump's hands again if
12:20you're Trump you're you're rubbing your
12:22hands aren't you let's take a look at
12:24before you comment let's take take a
12:25look at a clip here and not only that
12:28all the local cases like funny
12:35Fanny it's spelled Fanny like your ass
12:39Fanny but when she became da she decided
12:43to add a little French little Fancy
12:47fny funny and you know funny
12:51and Mr Miss Wade did you go to a cabin
13:05ever no you've never gone to a cabin
13:10no I mean the thing is Megan nobody is
13:13going to remember what the hell that
13:14case is about all they're going to
13:16remember is what Trump's been posting
13:18about it and what he's been saying at
13:20the rallies because it is laugh out loud
13:22hilarious you couldn't make it
13:24up Trump gets the best enemies I mean
13:26you can't deny it he he it's not that
13:29he's lucky it's that these weird people
13:31are attracted to ruining him and then he
13:33winds up you know turning it around on
13:35them so Fanny Willis had one thing to do
13:38just just get the case to jury just get
13:41it in front of a jury it's Atlanta
13:43they're gonna hate Trump you're good
13:45just just behave until you get it before
13:47a jury and she couldn't do it she had to
13:51have the affair with the prosecutor who
13:53she brought in who she didn't even need
13:55then she had to go on lavish trips with
13:57this guy Nathan Wade he took her to nap
13:59they went to bise down to Aruba I've
14:02said I I'm gonna have an affair with
14:04Nathan Wade you get to see the world
14:06it's amazing and they couldn't couldn't
14:09keep it in the pants they had to get
14:11together they she had to let them lavish
14:13gifts on her and sure enough as all bad
14:15behavior eventually uh does it got outed
14:18and then adding insult to injury she
14:21it's very clear to me lied about it on
14:24the stand and so did he those two
14:26officers of the Court took the stand at
14:28the hero to decide whether they needed
14:30to be disqualified and they lied under
14:33oath about their affair they should be
14:35disbarred they should be disbarred never
14:37mind off this case I I completely agree
14:39um you had a running with Trump famously
14:41at one of the debates when he was very
14:43rude about you but you you then
14:45interviewed him afterwards what what do
14:46you make of trump he's such a phenomenon
14:49good bad and ugly you know I've known
14:50him a long time you've known him a long
14:52time I've had run-ins with him you have
14:53two I good times with him um I see good
14:56and bad in him um you know it can vary
15:00that could all happen in one day what do
15:02you make of trump the the the person the
15:06character I have a lot of complicated
15:08feelings on Trump um for all the obvious
15:11reasons you know there's a weird history
15:13between the two of us so there's sort of
15:15my own personal reaction to him and then
15:17there's my political analysis of him um
15:21personally I have mixed feelings about
15:23him I see how charismatic he is how
15:25Dynamic he is how strong he is how he
15:28doesn't Bow Down to anybody no matter
15:29how much is thrown at him and I respect
15:31all of that I wish that he would get
15:34over the debate question I asked him
15:37back in 2015 you know it's he still
15:40raises it he's raising it like a couple
15:41weeks ago he raised it on the campaign
15:43Trail it's been nine years he's been
15:47president right it's like I wish he
15:49would stop because it's just nonsense to
15:52focus on at this point in his life and
15:53in mine but politically I see him as the
15:58Jugger not is and I see him like a
16:02forgive this this is I'm not trying to
16:03say he's a superhero but almost as a
16:05superhero who has the special gift of
16:07the more you fire at him the bigger he
16:09gets yeah you know the larger he gets
16:11and the more empowered that's him that's
16:14what's happening and the left doesn't
16:15see it and there is you know Trump has
16:20become it's not even about him anymore
16:22it really is about saving America it's
16:24about the before and after moment on the
16:26legal indictments of a of a former
16:28president of the lead in candidate to be
16:29the GOP nominee the the Norms that have
16:31been crossed by the Democrats we have to
16:34stop them and we still can we can
16:36ReStore normaly in the country by saying
16:38we didn't fall for that we didn't allow
16:40that so you know it's not just about
16:43Donald Trump anymore and for me I'm sure
16:45you've heard me talk about it but I'm
16:46very very passionate about the abuse
16:49we're heaping on children with all of
16:52these puberty blockers and cross- sex
16:53hormones and gender reassignments quote
16:56unquote and I would never vote anybody
16:59who will support those things so I don't
17:00care if it's Donald Trump or somebody
17:03else who's you know 10 times worse than
17:05Donald Trump if they're going to vote
17:06the way I want them to on that issue
17:07they've got my support do do you worry
17:10about what might happen in America if
17:12the attempt to stop Trump running to
17:15actually maybe sling him in jail before
17:17the election turned out to be
17:21successful very much very much so I I
17:25don't I just don't think that this is
17:28something we're easily going to be be
17:29able to bounce back from from like you
17:32look at January 6th and it was bad
17:34January 6th was a terrible day and I'm
17:37not somebody who would defend it or who
17:39downplays it I don't think it was as bad
17:41as 911 as some of these Cooks in the
17:43media on the left say but it was a
17:46day it doesn't hold a candle to the left
17:50using our justice system at the federal
17:52and state level to stop a political
17:55opponent that I mean that goes right to
17:57the fundamental core of who we are in
18:00America and it if we lose that if
18:04somehow Trump is stopped because of the
18:07lawfare against him we've genuinely lost
18:10a piece of our identity of what makes us
18:12special of one of the things that made
18:14us proud to be who we were and it's it's
18:18a before and after moment it it was
18:19right at the indictment but a conviction
18:22and certainly one that led to him losing
18:25will just will never be the same there
18:27there will be riots Piers there going to
18:30be riots in America either way because
18:33if Donald Trump wins again I shudder to
18:36think about what the left will do and if
18:39he loses the right and his core
18:42supporters are going to be so incensed
18:45at the way the justice system was used
18:47to stop a victory I don't think they'll
18:50accept the presidency as legitimate who
18:52you know if Biden wins under these
18:54circumstances so already the Dems have
18:56shot themselves in the foot even if they
18:58manag to eek out the W which I agree
19:00does not look likely I mean the state of
19:03the Democrat leadership is quite
19:04extraordinary where you have a guy who's
19:06president who could barely string a
19:08sentence together or stay on his two
19:09feet and then you have his vice
19:11president CA Harris who you know got the
19:14job through a grotesque as many people
19:16believe a grotesque Act of tokenism and
19:19it wasn't based on her actual political
19:21abilities and that's been borne out by
19:22what's happened since um there was this
19:25clip of her which I kind of thought
19:26summed her up this is her in Puerto Rico
19:30and she starts clapping to a song before
19:32one of her a has to tell her it's a
19:34protest song against her and her station
19:46a apparently they were singing We want
19:48to know KLA what did you come here for
19:50we want to know what you think of the
19:51colony and that long live free Palestine
19:54and Haiti too there she was cheering
19:57them on completely obliv but it kind of
19:59summed up her ineffectiveness as a vice
20:03president is pretty unprecedented and I
20:05was talking to charl seeing Charlamagne
20:07the go the other day I did went I did
20:10his show and he was saying she's
20:11particularly let down African-Americans
20:14because she's delivered nothing for
20:17them and women because she's about the
20:20worst representative we could have um
20:23what you're seeing in that clip is is
20:25kamla Harris being unburdened by what
20:27has been that's that's her favorite say
20:29by the passage of time yes that's right
20:33she's just I mean there's everything
20:34that comes out of her mouth is that
20:36vacuous she's an air sandwich and it's
20:39so frustrating to Me Maybe Charlamagne
20:41feels it as a black man I feel it as a
20:43woman just this is our first rep close
20:48to the oval and this is what we got yeah
20:50like this is it we could do no better
20:52than this and then people talk about if
20:54they get reelected Joe Biden's either
20:56voluntarily going to step down or
20:57they're going to 25 Amendment him right
20:59out of the office or he's going to die
21:02forgive me but it's very possible if you
21:04look at the actuary tables in addition
21:06to the man himself and she's GNA be our
21:09first female president it cannot be I'm
21:13sorry she's too dumb we just we cannot
21:15have somebody that dumb and untalented
21:18as our first female president it's bad
21:20enough she's our first female vice
21:22president so I feel what he's saying I
21:25feel like she's a terrible
21:27representative and yet you know we'd
21:29have a situation where they'd love to
21:31put a kamla Harris cell phone or suit in
21:33the Smithsonian Museum over here because
21:36she was our first whatever and and yet
21:39they would never honor some Republican
21:41who who attained this in the same way
21:42the Victorian Albert Museum is not
21:44they're they're classifying Margaret
21:46Thatcher as a villain now putting her up
21:47there next to Hitler and Osama Bin Laden
21:50that's what they do to conservative but
21:52liberal women right in but liberal women
21:55like KLA Harris will be feeded she'll be
21:57vaunted be completely respected why
22:00again why because she happened to be
22:03black she happened to be a woman and she
22:05happened to be a leftist who slept with
22:07Willie Brown a prominent Democrat out in
22:09California I'm sorry but we can do
22:12better what do you think of this I've
22:14talked so much about this debate but the
22:17whole kind of weird moment we are in in
22:20the world where a lot of women are
22:22terrified as saying what they think a
22:24woman is for fear of being cancelled and
22:27women's sport is being increasingly
22:29taken over by biological males who have
22:33now identify as women who are being
22:35allowed to just obliterate biological
22:39females which are of course actual women
22:42how do we get to this place and why are
22:44people so scared of doing what you and I
22:46do which is put our head over the parit
22:48and call this out for what it
22:52is I think I do understand it because I
22:55used to be there um you know back in
22:59I was using the pronouns the preferred
23:02pronouns and I was talking about this
23:05issue in a much different way than I do
23:07now because I wanted to be empathetic I
23:10wanted to be understanding I thought
23:12this was a group that had been
23:13historically bullied and was still okay
23:16to bully in the eyes of most and I felt
23:19bad for them and wanted to be somebody
23:22who would stand up for someone who was
23:24weaker than I was and then it seems like
23:28all hell broke loose on this issue like
23:31it that empathetic nature especially
23:34held by females because you mentioned
23:38exploited to a place that ironically
23:41wound up endangering us we we would wind
23:44up the ones who needed somebody to stand
23:45up for us and protect us because what
23:48was really happening was men biological
23:51men who are not well who would like the
23:54world to believe that they're actually
23:56female started to come into our spaces
23:58and our Sports and attack us if we
24:02objected and say We Were Somehow bigoted
24:05if we just wanted our spaces to remain
24:06female and that they should be able to
24:08parade their literally naked Anatomy I
24:13don't know how far we can go on your
24:14show it's on S around in front of us oh
24:17they wanted to whip out their penises
24:19and have us not object and have us to
24:21like look at it and pretend it was like
24:22kind of a fake vagina and then they
24:24wanted to come into our OBGYN offices
24:26and make us wait to get our actual vages
24:29checked out so they could take their
24:30fake badge in there which is really not
24:32a vag at all and get it inspected by a
24:34doctor as part of their weird sexual
24:36fantasy that's what's happening and then
24:39they started going to our girls sporting
24:41events whether it's swimming up in
24:42Canada or soccer down here field hockey
24:45out west and girls started to get their
24:46teeth knocked out or permanent brain
24:48damage from the volleyball being spiked
24:49too hard in their faces or up in Canada
24:51where you have that lunatic swimming
24:53with 12-year-old girls even though he's
24:55a 50-year-old man because that's how he
24:57identifies and parents allow it they
25:00allow it and the dude is changing in the
25:02girl's locker room and still they say
25:05nothing so the empathy has been
25:07exploited the shaming has been Amplified
25:10by these sick guys who are really
25:12they're the ones the activist at the
25:14heart of this movement and if these
25:16women don't realize what's happening to
25:19their daughters and themselves into our
25:21future as a result of their silence now
25:24and complicity then they deserve the
25:26result they're going to get I completely
25:28agree and and I also think there are
25:31many victims of this who are actual
25:33trans people who legitimately believe
25:36they were in the wrong body they've gone
25:37through maybe years of transition and
25:40surgery who just want a quiet life they
25:42don't want any of this attention seeking
25:45they don't want any of this attempt to
25:47infringe on women's rights I know trans
25:49people who are just a gast at the way
25:51this debate has played out and how these
25:54intransigent activists are ripping women
25:56to pieces if they dare to say hang on a
25:59second what about our rights to fairness
26:01and equality that we fought a 100 years
26:03to achieve and so there are lots of
26:05people around the periphery of this
26:07debate who are victims of the of the
26:10thing it's and it's trans people it's
26:13women it's lots of people and there's a
26:15small group on uh the trans activist
26:17lobby area who are incredibly vocal and
26:21very unpleasant and they destroy people
26:24well I I agree with this I have I have
26:26two of those people you just mentioned
26:27in my family my my extended family and
26:30and my husband's family and they're
26:31absolutely lovely and they they don't
26:33want to bother anybody no and these
26:36radical trans activists don't speak for
26:38them at all and unfortunately they get
26:40caught up in you know the new narratives
26:42because people don't know what to
26:43believe but there is a particularly high
26:46percentage within the trans community of
26:49what I'm sure you've discussed it are
26:51autophiles and that's not a genuinely
26:53trans man that's not a man who from the
26:56age of two just believed he was born
26:57sort of in the wrong body and decides to
27:00transition and doesn't want to bother
27:02anybody wants to pass if he can doesn't
27:04want to exploit anybody would never
27:06dream of joining a woman's Sport and
27:09taking away her medals but there's an
27:12unusually high percentage of autophiles
27:15now and what th what that is is a man
27:17who gets off on wearing women's clothing
27:19and looking like a woman let me give you
27:21an example I'll give an example Fe Dylan
27:23melany is someone that I think is
27:26perpetrating that stunt because the way
27:28that I don't know okay let me let me
27:30take you on on that because I agree with
27:32you if if we said if you said Leah
27:33Thomas the swimmer 100% but Dylan I
27:36don't know that Dylan's getting off
27:37dressing like a woman I think Dylan is
27:39exploiting he's making he's rolling in
27:41DP Piers he's got make
27:44Point make the point Dylan malany makes
27:47a mockery of women and is making
27:49millions doing it I mean it's like a
27:51double whammy of hell for women that
27:53this person who was identifying as a gay
27:55man until two years ago suddenly goes
27:58I'm a woman and by the way I'm going to
28:00make you all look utterly ridiculous and
28:02weak and pathetic and simper and it's
28:08you also like one of the least
28:11attractive quote women I've ever seen
28:14but Meg let me ask you something let me
28:17ask you something just before we end
28:18which is you and I are both doing
28:20something right now actually which we
28:22weren't doing a few years ago because we
28:24were linear television people um we're
28:28online stuff and it's proving very
28:31popular you and I got singled out in a
28:33media uh an American Media website their
28:37top 100 people in the media and we
28:38actually were in you were number two I
28:40think and I was thrilled to be in the
28:42top 20 mainly because I saw so many
28:44conventional television people way down
28:47the list now because the future actually
28:50particularly if you got young kids like
28:52my kids are in their 20s and a 12-y old
28:54girl they watch everything this way they
28:57don't watch conventional television how
29:00have you found this transition uh for
29:03one of a better better word over our
29:05last debate how have you found the
29:07transition and and how's it going it's
29:09clearly going incredibly well but how do
29:12it I love it and I'm so glad to see you
29:15in this space too Pierce I mean you you
29:17may know I don't know if your audience
29:18knows but you are one of my Inspirations
29:21for this new chapter of my life not
29:24because you were on YouTube but because
29:27you were some somebody who always seemed
29:29to say what you really thought and you
29:34know my background was more in straight
29:35news where you don't do that you know
29:37you hold those cards close to the vest
29:40but the more I got into prime time and
29:44commentary the more I wanted to be like
29:46you I wanted to say more fully how I
29:50actually felt but it was scary it was
29:53scary in the beginning and then it's one
29:55of those things where the more you do it
29:57the more more natural it feels and the
30:00better you feel the better you feel I
30:02specifically said you and Tucker both of
30:05whom I'm happy to count as friends were
30:07inspos to me because you love you or
30:10hate you you always just let your freak
30:12flag fly and I love you um and so now
30:16I'm I don't know I guess to launch the
30:18show in September of 20 so I'm going on
30:20year four of doing it and I've never
30:24been happier it's the it's the flip side
30:28of the coin that Douglas Murray I know
30:30you know talks about where you could go
30:33through your life and never say anything
30:35controversial or take a controversial
30:37opinion on the hot button topics stay
30:39away from the third rails don't be the
30:41pointy part of the spear and when you
30:44die in your bed years from now think ah
30:50anyone and what good will that do you
30:53and I will not be lying there saying
30:55that no no so I'm much happier on the
30:59path that we're on it's uh the real me
31:01and I've never felt more fulfilled or I
31:06don't know if happy is the word but just
31:08more I've never had more meaning in my
31:10life you know had such resonance between
31:13I've watched you for many years let me
31:15return the favor I'm a massive fan of
31:17yours as you know but I I think when I
31:19see you now I just see somebody who's
31:21liberated from any restraints you may or
31:24may not have had or felt you had or
31:26whatever you just feel like a completely
31:28free spirit and I think we live in a
31:30world now where so many people are
31:33terrified of giving their opinions on
31:34things they gravitate to people like you
31:37and me and others who uh who do that
31:40because they wish they could do that and
31:42they wish they had the confidence to do
31:44that um but it is liberating I find it
31:46completely liberating and I watch you
31:48and I I see the same in
31:51you well thank you I'm glad that you're
31:53now like when you came over to YouTube
31:55that it was a great move I've really
31:58enjoyed being in the YouTube podcast
32:00digital space and I just think you and I
32:02are both at the same place where it's I
32:04realize you have other relationships but
32:06like I cannot imagine having a an
32:08editorial boss who tells me how I have
32:11to cover the news like who who could
32:14that possibly be there's just there's no
32:16one and not a day goes by that I don't
32:19look around and think I am so happy to
32:21be doing this on my own and to not have
32:23to be responsible for what this
32:25says or what that jerk does it's just me
32:29and I'll rise or fall on my own Merit
32:31right they'll either love me or they
32:32hate hate me it's fine you know I have
32:35enough viewers to sustain my life and my
32:37business and that's really all I could
32:38ever ask for uh it's it's just a it's a
32:42world of difference from the way I lived
32:44my first 17 18 years in journalism and I
32:47I love it well it's great to have you on
32:48on sens and come back soon lovely to see
32:51you Megan I would love to great to see
32:52you too Piers all the best thank
