Talk sh*t about Korea and you’ll get views!😈 | Korean Pizza Club | EP.27
Korean Pizza Club2024-02-26
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💫 Short Summary
The video segment features Korean content creators discussing their strategies for success in creating content about Korea. They emphasize authenticity, personal branding, and showcasing personality to engage viewers. The creators share insights on navigating cultural differences, addressing LGBT issues, and the challenges of monetization in the Korean content creation space. Collaboration, unique perspectives, and providing value to viewers are highlighted as key factors for success. The discussion also touches on the evolution of content portrayal of Korea, the importance of balanced perspectives, and the challenges of handling hate comments and misinformation online.
✨ Highlights
📊 Transcript
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Korean content creators share insights and strategies for success in creating content about Korea.
02:08Tips are provided for navigating travel and cultural differences when creating content.
Discussions include personal branding, LGBT issues, and fashion style to attract audience interest.
One creator mentions starting content creation in March and experiencing rapid growth in followers.
Emphasis is placed on the importance of authenticity and showcasing personality to engage viewers.
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Transition to Live Streaming and Rapid Growth on TikTok.
05:19Success attributed to positive feedback and support from viewers.
Natural transition to creating Korean-related content due to Korean heritage and viewer curiosity.
Differentiation from other creators through insights on Korean culture and addressing viewer questions.
Popularity enhanced by unique perspective as a Korean man speaking English.
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Success in K-pop Content Creation Journey.
10:25The individual started a K-pop channel during the K-pop craze in Korea, experiencing substantial growth in viewership.
Riding the wave of K-pop and BTS catapulted them into full-time content creation.
Viral explain videos and street interviews further solidified their career in content creation.
Deep gratitude towards BTS and their fanbase, Army, for their success.
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Content creator discusses journey to viral success.
11:45Video about Korean accents gains 3 million views unexpectedly.
Challenges and rewards of being a content creator are reflected upon.
Concerns about revenue diversification and reaching broader audience are expressed.
Strategy for breaking out of K-pop niche and showcasing various aspects of Korean culture is shared.
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Personal story about a bad date and addressing online comments about appearance.
16:41Importance of viewer questions in shaping content.
Challenges of selecting topics for videos and how viewer emails inspire content.
Achieving viral success despite being a content creator for a short period.
Highlighting the variety of content creators' experiences and the pressures of consistently producing engaging material.
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Tips for Increasing Views and Engagement as a Content Creator
19:59Focus on satisfying the audience to increase views and engagement.
Collaborating with a team can help creators reach the next level of success.
Addressing audience questions and interests in niche content areas like Korean culture can be particularly effective.
Providing value to viewers through informative or entertaining content, as well as personal stories, can foster a sense of companionship.
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Drawing inspiration from successful content creators to generate viral video ideas.
23:50Adapting successful formats, such as the Explain series, to different niches like K-pop music videos.
Customizing popular content styles to create engaging and shareable videos.
Importance of staying observant of successful formats and creatively applying them to your own content for increased visibility and engagement.
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Discussion on competitiveness in Korean-related content creation.
26:03Importance of showcasing unique personalities to stand out in the crowded space.
Mention of saturation in K-pop reactions and interviews, emphasizing the need for differentiation.
Experiences shared about challenges and cold reception faced during street interviews in Korea.
Exploration of the evolving landscape of content creation around Korean culture and the struggles content creators face in gaining recognition.
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Challenges and Opportunities of Street Interviews in Korea.
29:15Koreans are more open to being interviewed on the streets compared to foreigners.
Content creation in Korea is competitive due to global interest in K-pop and kdramas.
Despite saturation, the growing audience is seen as a positive outcome.
More creators in the Korean content space are welcomed as promoting Korea through content benefits everyone.
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Importance of Standing Out in Content Creation
31:52Some creators feel overwhelmed by saturation and competition in the community.
A creator emphasizes the privilege of content creation as a living or hobby.
OG creator copes by not complaining and showing empathy towards struggling creators.
Visual elements like background colors, footage quality, and appearance are key to attracting viewers in short-form content creation.
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Challenges faced by Korean content creators in breaking stereotypes and being authentic.
36:37Negative comments include body shaming, makeup and fashion criticism, and homophobia.
Emphasis on the importance of being genuine and not playing a character while creating content.
Value of being brutally honest and providing real answers on controversial topics to attract viewers.
Praise for unique fashion sense and voice of a content creator, highlighting the importance of individual personality in standing out.
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Importance of supporting and hyping each other up in the content creator community.
39:32Emphasizing the value of collaboration and mutual growth.
Lack of community and support in the Korean content creator scene due to jealousy and resistance from established creators.
Goal of uniting content creators through initiatives like the Korean Pizza Club and hosting a party for all participants.
Challenges of monetizing Korean-related content and making a living in that space.
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Monetization challenges for content creators in low CPM countries.
43:10Importance of targeting specific audiences for increased viewership.
Gratitude for income and significance of streaming as a revenue source.
Explanation of monetization methods on platforms like Twitch.
Dedication to providing quality content driven by viewer support and sacrifices.
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YouTube emerging as dominant platform for short form content monetization.
47:25Creators encouraged to focus on YouTube for earning potential.
Personal success story with YouTube's generous earnings shared.
English-speaking content targeting North American audiences leads to higher earnings.
Variations in CPM rates across regions like India and Southeast Asia emphasized.
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Rise in Korean convenience store and cafe videos.
49:58Focus on unique aspects of Korean culture such as aesthetic cafes and Michelin restaurants.
Evolving content landscape with more diverse and engaging content being produced.
Popular cafe hopping culture with new cafes opening weekly in Seoul.
Creators exploring different trends and experiences in Korea, contributing to the dynamic content creator community.
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Evolution of Korea's portrayal in media.
54:39The portrayal of Korea has shifted from positive and glorifying to more realistic, exposing dark sides.
Koreans feel a sense of pride and patriotism, leading to frustration with negative portrayals.
Foreigners tend to see more good than bad in Korea.
Importance of considering different perspectives and experiences when discussing a country's image.
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Shift in perspectives towards Korea from over-glorification to a more critical view.
57:48Content creators emphasize the importance of a balanced and realistic portrayal of living in Korea.
Discussion on experiences of discrimination based on ethnicity and the need to avoid sensationalizing negative experiences.
Reflecting on evolving attitudes towards Korea and the importance of maintaining a mature and balanced approach in content creation.
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Importance of portraying realistic view of living in Korea and avoiding sensationalizing experiences.
59:44Speaker shares heartwarming encounter with elderly Korean woman, emphasizing positive interactions with elders.
Discussion on stereotypes about Korean men and frustration of being labeled negatively.
Belief in people's ability to mature and see beyond stereotypes, influenced by K-dramas.
Hope that individuals will learn and grow throughout their lives, despite initial misconceptions.
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Importance of Collaborations in Content Creation.
01:04:16Collaborations provide support, advice, and new ideas for creators.
Working with talented individuals in various areas like marketing and TikTok enhances the content.
Ease of communication and mutual assistance among collaborators is valuable in the creative process.
Collaborations enhance the quality and reach of the content produced.
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Importance of Collaboration in Content Creation
01:06:31Different platforms and content styles lead to audience fragmentation.
Collaboration with Sean resulted in a notable increase in Instagram followers.
Fans are essential for expanding reach and building a community.
Unique fan base names like '1centers', 'K explorers', 'Han cuties', and 'Ducks' enhance the creator-fan relationship.
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Evolution of channel name from 'dick TV' to 'ducks TV' in order to avoid negative associations with inappropriate content.
01:10:00Mission as a content creator is to positively impact viewers' lives and create a dedicated community.
Emphasis on genuine connection over fame and money, valuing the opportunity to influence and inspire others.
Providing advice on personal issues and expressing a desire to further pursue music career to offer additional value to the audience.
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Bridging the gap between international and Korean audiences through a cultural podcast.
01:14:01Aspiring to be a cultural ambassador and establish credibility in the podcast industry.
Interviewing high-profile celebrities and K-pop idols, including BTS members like RM.
Emphasizing the importance of having a thick skin and dealing with criticism in the content creator space.
Sharing experiences of receiving inappropriate messages but maintaining a positive outlook.
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Coping with hateful comments and misinformation online can be challenging.
01:18:36Individuals often have to defend themselves against false rumors and twisted accusations.
Developing a thick skin and turning negativity into comedy is emphasized as a coping mechanism.
The speaker highlights the cowardice of those who post hurtful comments online.
Despite facing hate, the speaker recalls humorous interactions with viewers recognizing them in public.
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Addressing false assumptions and baseless hate comments in the K-pop community.
01:21:15The speaker clarifies they are not sponsored by K-pop companies and do not hate certain groups intentionally.
Emphasizing the importance of constructive feedback over negativity.
Avoiding topics that attract hate to protect interviewees and maintain a positive environment.
Recounting a recent incident involving offensive questions about Korean girls, stressing the need for respectful dialogue and avoiding objectification.
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Tips for aspiring content creators.
01:24:41Start with passion and consistency in creating content.
Focus on personal interests and experiences to make content unique.
Add a unique personality to content to stand out.
Have a purposeful approach to content creation to positively impact viewers.
Key aspects include passion, hard work, enjoyment, unique personality, and clear purpose.
Aim to change people's lives through advice or entertainment, embodying passion, personality, and purpose.
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Importance of creating innovative, creative, and entertaining online content.
01:27:52Content creators are advised to align actions with personal values as everything posted online is permanent.
Korean-related content creators face challenges such as hate comments and are given insights and advice.
Hosts express gratitude to viewers and anticipate high viewership due to a guest appearance.
Segment concludes with a friendly farewell and a reminder to avoid creating oversaturated content.
00:00I always see videos on Tik Tok or
00:02Instagram people complaining and saying
00:03this and that about Korea and I'm like
00:05if you don't like Korea you can simply
00:06fck off we don't care if you do or not I
00:08went to this Cafe in Korea versus I
00:11experienced this racism and homophobia
00:13in Korea this is going to get like 10 10
00:17times Korean menes Korean I I am so
00:20tired like can you he something just
00:21stop I am so tired of Korean men this
00:24Korean men that I feel sympathy for a
00:26lot of that content because it's not
00:28just Korean men it's
00:30you go to H like Oh I'm a nice guy
00:34[ __ ] that's the accent I'm a
00:36nicey guy ni Meo you
00:39know bringing Korea one slice closer to
00:42the world with extraordinary and fun
00:44toppings welcome to the Korean Pizza
00:46Club KPC I'm your host David Kim and we
00:49have some special guests here today
00:52Korean content creators their content
00:54has been popping on the platforms
00:57nowadays please introduce yourself
00:59starting with ladies first uh my name is
01:02Han I've been doing content creation for
01:04around three months now and I do content
01:07on Tik Tok Instagram and YouTube great
01:10oh I I always love your voice it's so
01:12like deep it's deeper than my voice yeah
01:14some people say I sound like a man so
01:17it's very unique it's very unique okay
01:19uh lovely to have you here Han and we
01:22have
01:23Sean uh hello it's good to be back again
01:26mhm uh my name is uh Sean solo I am a
01:29streamer on twitch and I also uh put out
01:32content on Instagram Tik Tok and YouTube
01:35okay and uh we have
01:38Jerry hello DJ Bo why did you make that
01:43pause I don't know if I should edit that
01:45pause out or not but keep it in keep
01:48keep okay okay yeah hi I'm Jerry the
01:51creator of own K Explorer okay so we
01:54have Han Sean and K Explorer Jerry here
01:58today and I am David from dkdk TV and
02:01Korean Pizza Club yes so all four of us
02:04have one thing in common content
02:06creators and we create content about
02:08Korea right so yeah today's episode is
02:11going to be about how to survive as a
02:14Korean content creator behind the scenes
02:16the competition and some advice for
02:19aspiring content creators okay first and
02:22foremost let's start with real
02:24introductions like what kind of Korean
02:26related content do you guys make and uh
02:29why did you choose to do that in the
02:31first place um so I started making just
02:35Tik toks and short form content about
02:38how to come to Korea because when I came
02:40during covid time there wasn't a lot of
02:42information about things like quarantine
02:45about visas about school applications so
02:49I have probably
02:50spent like months in total researching
02:54everything I needed to do in order to
02:56come to Korea in order to live here um
02:58and navigating all of that so I really
03:01just started doing helpful tips as well
03:04as when I started getting more people
03:06kind of interested in that sort of
03:08content I wanted to show a bit more of
03:10my personality and Life in Korea so LGBT
03:14issues and uh cultural differences as
03:17well as my fashion style and just a bit
03:20more of my personality and people people
03:23got interested from that okay very smart
03:25that's very recent right because you
03:27started Co you know or uh no I started
03:31creating content around March I think
03:34regularly yeah this year's March yeah
03:36this year of mar oh um so it's been a
03:39very thankfully like a fast growth which
03:43was very stressful and a little bit
03:45surprising for me but it was quite nice
03:48okay how many subscribers or followers
03:49do you have across all platforms across
03:51all platforms um
03:54110,000 110,000 something like that I'm
03:582,000 away from 100K on Tik Tok wow and
04:01it's only been three months yeah that's
04:03crazy that's exponential yeah but the
04:07nice thing about it is the followers are
04:09actually engaged with my content so I
04:11get a lot of comments a lot of DMS and
04:14uh things I can be helpful with okay
04:16okay nice to hear your background uh
04:18let's go with Sean this time I didn't it
04:21wasn't planned at all know it was
04:23very um spontaneous yeah it was very
04:26spontaneous I had if you told that I was
04:30going to be making content or become a
04:31streamer M um like NE like last year
04:35yeah I would say that you're high right
04:36because it's so to me yeah really to me
04:38it's it's still surreal that I'm doing
04:40this and
04:43um I remember my friend told me you
04:46should try Tik Tok and I was like why I
04:48don't dance and he was like well you
04:50know Tik Tok is not all about dancing
04:52it's about having different niches yeah
04:54and I was like okay and I started
04:58uploading little by little but it was
05:00just content that wasn't really about
05:02Korea you know it was just a trending
05:04regular content that I'll be making and
05:06then um one day I met that friend again
05:08he was like you should try live
05:09streaming MH I was like like what like
05:12what am I going to talk about and he was
05:13like well you can talk so why don't you
05:15try and that day I had dinner with him
05:17and I came home and then I got a
05:18notification from Tik Tok saying I can
05:19go live that day and it's true story and
05:23then I went I pressed the go live button
05:25and here we are so and I it's it's been
05:28a genuine blessing I think to be able to
05:30have you know rapid growth but then
05:33again that also is kind of hard to I'm
05:35sure Han can relay but it's it's really
05:38like um a lot of bir not a burden on
05:41your shoulders but a lot of pressure
05:42it's very overwhelming to go from like
05:45not having a lot of in online
05:48interaction to getting a lot of messages
05:51yeah you grew a new online presence
05:53there and it's a new Dynamic for you
05:55guys so how many followers and
05:57subscribers do you have across all
05:58platform uh I have over 200,000 200,000
06:01wow yeah and I've only been doing this
06:03for five six months now too
06:07wow no really gen people wow but it's
06:12really surreal I mean the I I truly
06:15believe that we do this because of the
06:16support that we get you know it's it's
06:18the positive comments and everything
06:20that I feel like it keeps us going I'm
06:23sure all of us here can relate to it and
06:25you mentioned that you didn't
06:26specifically have any motivation or like
06:28uh
06:30initial reason to do Korea related
06:32content right but how did you like gear
06:33towards Korean content
06:36eventually I think it's because I think
06:38we all here understand the um how Korea
06:42is so popular now yeah and you got to
06:44write the wave you know you got to talk
06:46about it like I think we all know that
06:47true that is true so um I think it
06:49happened just naturally because I am
06:51Korean and people are curious my content
06:54in itself is just me answering questions
06:56yeah so um I got a lot of questions
06:59about Korea and Korean men in general
07:02because 93% of my viewers are women okay
07:05so they are curious about Korean guys
07:07and whatnot and you're a Korean guy that
07:09speaks English so you use that to your
07:11advantage exactly and so I'm able to
07:13give like Insight of and there's so many
07:14influencers and creators that talk about
07:16Korea but um I would say I kind of throw
07:18my spin on it with my character that I
07:20play on stream okay okay great okay uh
07:24let's move on to Jerry how did you start
07:27you're the non- Korean here right so I
07:29I'm expecting a unique perspective he's
07:31also the expert expert content creator
07:34he's like he's the most experienced god
07:35tier level content creation what are you
07:37saying we have David here come on stop
07:41I'm the host today it's about you guys
07:42we're like all hyping each other this is
07:44great go on Jerry yeah no but um yeah I
07:48literally like did no one to do you know
07:50like nine to five nine to five yeah like
07:52after graduating you know like um univ
07:54your major software engineering oh wow
07:57yeah I know I know yes yes know how to
07:59code I don't know how to code I gave up
08:02like you know halfway but um after
08:05watching know like Asian boss I was like
08:06back in 17 18 Asian boss OG yeah
08:11literally you know I was like okay how
08:13about you like I start um a K-pop
08:15Channel and then I started you know like
08:17K-pop sh interviews and then that was
08:19when I got into you know like the K-pop
08:21field found out about DK DK TV yeah had
08:24to put that in there yeah yeah I had to
08:26put that in there about like DK TV and I
08:28was like oh I mean back then you guys
08:30were doing like a little bit of stre
08:31interviews but then for me I was just
08:33like all the interviews and I mean I was
08:36getting you know like views but like not
08:37necessarily much of you know like the
08:39following yeah so like I understood like
08:41when comments came like a lot of
08:43comments I just need to kind of video I
08:45would do well like when an idol like has
08:46a scandal we have to jump on it but
08:48anyway so I did have up until last year
08:51and then like last year wasn't really
08:53seen any growth MH so um I A friend of
08:58mine was like okay how about just like
08:59you know talk about your life in career
09:00I was like that is that is true and then
09:02like I just you know I started like life
09:04in career but I knew the videos that
09:05were going to like pop up like pop off
09:07the the kind of topics so I just started
09:10like those topics like right up the bath
09:12and you know like I just saw the growth
09:13and I was like okay yeah okay so uh what
09:16I'm getting from your story is that you
09:17were initially interested in K-pop
09:19somewhat right oh no not really so so
09:22why did you start a K-pop channel in the
09:24beginning oh that's a very good question
09:25so it's I just wanted to make a YouTube
09:28video
09:29and happen to be in Korea and then Korea
09:33was popping because of K-pop oh okay
09:35okay so you wanted to ride the way too
09:37literally literally got it got it I mean
09:40smart yeah but um why were you
09:42interested in Korea then I got a
09:45scholarship here yeah okay so it's just
09:49yeah so like there's no like not anybody
09:51who's like oh I wanted to you know
09:54discover my Korean roots and you know
09:55promote the culture and Heritage but
09:58it's like you know everybody started
09:59spontaneously and uh pretty much you
10:01know in their given situations
10:03environments yeah which is not wrong
10:05yeah I have a question to ask them is
10:07there any video of your guys's that went
10:09really viral and kind of propelled you
10:11into doing content creation full-time
10:14and you can answer that too I'm
10:15interested for me yeah I me master any I
10:18I grew with BTS I rode the wave really
10:21hard I was super lucky you know I love
10:23how how honest we are I'm so thankful to
10:25BTS like I I owe my life to them Army
10:30yeah yeah I'm BTS Army too I even have
10:31my phone case here um but yeah I was
10:34lucky blessed with K-pop BTS The crean
10:36Wave and then came like squid game
10:38everything um and then I we got viral
10:41with our explain videos or Street
10:43interviews and uh news series and
10:46everything it was a ride for me yeah the
10:48expain was wild I literally like waited
10:50like every week for that oh my
10:53God what about you
10:55guys um I for me it it was the uh I do
11:00it's a really that's the funny thing
11:01about social media is um videos that you
11:04expect that's not going to be viral goes
11:06viral that's true that's so funny how it
11:08works right so I at the time I wasn't
11:10seeing much growth like the first couple
11:12weeks the first month and then there's
11:14this one video it's a stupid video where
11:16I talk about Korean accents you know
11:18Korean accents
11:19yeah I was just like um I I was doing
11:23like an accent Korean accent saying like
11:26oh like [ __ ] you know like just
11:29this really stupid video did any Kore
11:32see that video I I I feel like they
11:34would get triggered oh yeah well you
11:36know it is what it is if you get
11:37triggered who cares okay but it's like I
11:39it was just as a joke just for a joke I
11:42get it and um that got that just blew up
11:45really that was the start of everything
11:46how many views on reals it had like
11:50almost 3 million views million me
11:52literally saying motherucker got me
11:53three mother could you if you want to
11:56become a content creator that's all you
11:58have to do that is the content economy
12:01right now for you environment and then I
12:03was like okay am I going to be known as
12:04a [ __ ] guy I have to wonder I'm
12:07okay what I'm G to do and then um yeah I
12:10think that for me was the viral video
12:12okay okay yeah yeah and Jerry any viral
12:16moment uh yeah like the like everything
12:19oh no every single Street which one do I
12:22have to pick no no my first ever that
12:24would be like with K-pop and that was um
12:27the bullying Scandal oh okay yeah we was
12:31Mina and
12:32um yeah a yeah a so that was like yeah
12:37my first par like moment and okay yeah
12:40you know how K-pop Community can Bex
12:43yeah it was very it was very scary but
12:45yeah yeah and then you moved out of the
12:47K-pop Community oh oh yeah like real
12:49quick you don't regret that do you oh no
12:52I'm I'm so fine but you know at the end
12:55of the day it's like for me personally
12:57like one of the I would neily see sa but
13:01I'll tell one of the things I'm worried
13:02as a content creator and also like most
13:04of since my revenue is not like
13:06necessarily Diversified is you have a
13:08lot of people interested in Korea that
13:12are mostly like K-pop fans right and the
13:15countries that are interested in Korea
13:18are like South other South Southeast
13:21Asian countries and all that so it's
13:23like having views like from those
13:24countries yeah it's honestly like almost
13:27unbelievable mhm yeah so that is where
13:29I'm like oh okay like how is it possible
13:33for me to really just break out of you
13:35know like the whole K-pop and just like
13:38really show what career is about you
13:40like all that I think you're getting
13:42into like the monetization and revenue
13:44area uh not really just like how how I
13:48just like you know I'm trying to like
13:50get out of in like the c-p community
13:52okay so you just genuinely wanted to get
13:53out of that category category wide in
13:55your spectrum okay got it and uh H do
13:58you have any viral moments oh yeah your
14:00viral um it's been 3 months I I'm
14:04expecting like how how how much is like
14:06your highest view so far uh on 2 million
14:10so actually my most viral video is my
14:14coming out video a reaction to his um so
14:19he did a street interview just asking
14:21what's like the worst date you've been
14:23on and I told a story about this guy I
14:25was seeing in hung day he's like a club
14:27worker and
14:29he don't just kidding um H day oh it's
14:34it's like his yeah he's going to get
14:36yeah it was uh he shoved me down the
14:38stairs and was like harassing me for a
14:41long time and I saw that there was a lot
14:44of different comments on there being
14:45like oh she's kind of cute and stuff
14:49like that and I just decided to come out
14:52and announce that I also like women okay
14:55and that one has like 2 million on Tik
14:58Tok
14:59and then I have a couple of just about
15:03how to in Korea like um that sort of
15:06stuff and then also other people's
15:08videos of me that went viral like how
15:10many does your one of me have it's not
15:14like 1.9 1.9 and then a couple of my
15:17friends who are content creators in New
15:18York also did some filming oh so you
15:21appear in other people's videos and
15:23those ones went viral yeah okay um like
15:26my friend Fiona she's a content creator
15:28in New York her one of us has 2 million
15:31I think one or two million yeah W okay
15:33so does that mean you're like the
15:35guaranteed check for well honestly she
15:38is lit like the guaranteed my check you
15:40know like I have high expectations for
15:41this episode now no CU yeah after I know
15:45like film all that for the first time I
15:46really didn't know but then like when I
15:48started you know like editing I saw you
15:51know like the r or she just like gave
15:53off off camera and I was like oh wow
15:56like I wasn't really sure like people
15:57were actually going to like like I was
15:58like let's just put it out there and
16:00like I said you know I send the comment
16:01rolling you know like it was just like a
16:05how would like it's very hard to explain
16:07like it was a cannonball type of effect
16:09so like it started going viral like on
16:11Tik Tok and then like I saw that same
16:13effect like on real I was like oh damn
16:15like I went to you know shorts and it
16:17was like the same effects I was like
16:19okay this girl like I I need you no
16:24I okay okay so uh congratulations on
16:28your viral moments in your achievements
16:31uh despite being a content creator for
16:33only like 3 months 5 months over a year
16:36I guess right um so like let's get into
16:39some of the deeper Parts uh of course
16:41being a content creator especially
16:43creating content about Korea has its own
16:45challenges first of all how do you pick
16:47the topics I think this is one of the
16:49most painstaking parts of being a
16:51Creator like what kind of title what
16:54kind of idea or like topic you're going
16:56to choose for that certain video how do
16:58you do that share your process please
17:01I'm kind of Lucky in a sense of the
17:04content that I get is the questions from
17:06my viewers actually you know that's the
17:09that's the best way yeah so and you know
17:13I think for me it's it's much more
17:14simpler to create content
17:17because I give um like they would always
17:20message me whether it's questions about
17:22relationships or life whatever it is
17:24that I can be of help um it's the emails
17:30are my content so but also it's like you
17:33also want to try so many other things
17:35you know as a content creator you just
17:37can't be you're not okay with just one
17:39thing you want to try all kinds of
17:40different content right but for me I
17:42would say that it's
17:45just it's just that it's emails and that
17:48helps me kind of lessen my stress of
17:51always coming up with content thinking
17:53up ideas but still I'm I'm sure we all
17:55here can agree like we're always under
17:57brainstorm thinking of things what's
18:00going to off and
18:02right worrying about if that video is
18:04going to do well like everything so I
18:06think it's just I I think that's uh I I
18:08had a recent trip to California and went
18:10to Anaheim for VidCon and uh what I
18:12learned there is basically the same
18:14thing it's like always try to satisfy
18:16your audience you know audience is King
18:18whatever your audience wants that's
18:19going to go viral and it's it's a
18:22natural you know phenomenon uh that just
18:24happens and as Sean said and in my case
18:27as well like my channel in the in the
18:29old days I all I did was just follow the
18:31path that my followers and subscribers
18:34recommended they were like oh please
18:35react to this please explain this please
18:38uh you know cover this news and stuff
18:40like that and whenever I just try to
18:41satisfy them you know it delivers it
18:44gets views so I think that's the easiest
18:46and most efficient way for sure and
18:48that's why I have like way more respect
18:51for creators like I don't know for
18:53example Mr Beast like we love Mr Beast
18:56yeah he has to come up with every single
18:58video with like a bizarre interesting
19:01like crazy idea every single time it
19:04changes every single time but and I
19:05think he also has an amazing team
19:07exactly I think that's really important
19:09like right now we're all somewhat
19:10independent but once you get that big if
19:12you have an amazing team behind you I
19:13think you know that takes you to the
19:15next level right but uh I think
19:17specifically for us um you know because
19:20we're in that Korean content sphere and
19:22a lot of people are it's it's like a
19:24niche right in some sort of way and a
19:26lot of people are interested in and they
19:28have questions constantly about the
19:30culture and some stuff they don't
19:32understand or like something's popping
19:34they request the creators to do that and
19:36uh it's very convenient for us and uh
19:39it's it's a very effective way do you
19:41guys agree with that or do you guys have
19:43other methods in ideating and
19:45brainstorming ideas um for me personally
19:50I did start off my content based on
19:53informational things and uh I've kind of
19:56tried to steer away from doing only that
19:59um whenever I make videos or content I
20:02try to think of what's going to give the
20:06audience something of value so either
20:08information or entertainment or some
20:11kind of relatability right um so when I
20:14make topics about how to study in Korea
20:17or how they can get affordable housing
20:20um this definitely gives valuable
20:22information to the viewer as well as if
20:26I do something showing my personality or
20:28my fashion or LGBT relatable experiences
20:31or topics through that I think that the
20:35viewers can gain some kind of uh
20:38companionship um from my content so I
20:41usually try to think of ideas and topics
20:44that will be beneficial to the viewer
20:46like start from scratch and from your
20:48own experience and think like oh what
20:50kind of value could I deliver from like
20:53my experience my life and put that into
20:57content I definitely think that you can
21:00innovate content that's already out
21:02there and common questions that people
21:04have but I do try to think of my own
21:07content ideas or a unique spin on them
21:10okay okay what about you Jerry I'm I'm
21:12really curious about you because like
21:14your content is specifically like asking
21:16questions about like Korean culture and
21:18Korean stuff every single time like I'm
21:21very curious how you generate your ideas
21:23and topics I watch a lot of YouTube
21:25videos like a lot of shooting interviews
21:27from like people from different
21:28countries like uh like one of my recent
21:31videos that I thought was probably going
21:36to do well and it's just like there I
21:38actually got that idea from German like
21:40there was a Germany yeah like there's a
21:43guy like doing stream interviews S Type
21:45um s style of um videos in Germany and
21:48he asks you know like foreigners like
21:50living in Germany I was like Germans
21:52there and he made a video about that and
21:55I saw that I was like oh that is pretty
21:56interesting what was the topic and how
21:58did you customize it
22:00how has living in Germany changed you as
22:04a person oh okay so I just straight up
22:06just did how just change German to Korea
22:10but then like what actually just coming
22:12from you know like um a con Creator
22:15perspective I would say what actually
22:16made his video go viral he's currently I
22:19think close to like 300K is the fact
22:22that in the thumbnail of course like he
22:24had a girl there and so like my view of
22:27men
22:28changed that was the caption like in the
22:30thumbnail yeah but then for me there was
22:33nothing like that I couldn't just like
22:34make it up so m is just like my values
22:37changed it's
22:39like yeah yeah it's it's Med like it's
22:43very like one of the I try to like know
22:46do make you know like click bity type of
22:49you know like titles so like I just go
22:51oh my
22:53God that was loud but I just you know
22:55like got mind from um like what w or
22:58like the interview said yeah so you
23:00basically uh reference a lot of creators
23:03you watch a lot of YouTube and if you
23:04see something oh this might be appliable
23:07applicable to my content as well you
23:09customize it yeah and I'll one of the
23:12one that i' actually really did not
23:14expect which is very random was the like
23:18what millionair in South Korea like do
23:20for a live in that video like it was so
23:22Random like I got it from like a
23:24Japanese dude oh I I've actually seen a
23:26lot of those videos too like similar
23:28ones like uh this guy that goes up to uh
23:31Rich guys in cars and asks like what do
23:33you do how did you get this car or the
23:36one that like tours houses yeah that guy
23:38yeah exactly so I I watching like a lot
23:40of that like okay how can I it's going
23:42to be very hard like I don't have like a
23:43lot of friends but I just I went to Roo
23:46try to make the video boom yeah and then
23:48like currently like it's sitting at like
23:50close to 400k okay yeah referencing
23:53other formats and successful ones is
23:56very efficient as well because that's
23:57what what I did with the Explain series
23:59like uh if you don't know there's like
24:01the genius hip-hop lyrics series what
24:04they did was like you know how you you
24:06don't understand the hip-hop lyrics
24:07right like you you can't even like
24:10comprehend what they're saying oh so
24:12they they slow it down they chop it up
24:14and they go go through all like the
24:16punch lines and the uh references and
24:18then they explained it I was like oh
24:20that's very interesting and then oh why
24:22don't we apply that to K-pop and K-pop
24:25music videos and then that went viral so
24:28I think it's a really good method to
24:30always be on the look for successful
24:32formats and then customizing it to your
24:35own Niche so I think you should do a
24:37segment explaining English K-pop lyrics
24:40because some of those are really funny
24:41those are not explainable exactly that's
24:43why would be funny how do I how do I
24:46explain that yeah you know just going
24:48around them but yeah I would say
24:49definitely when it comes to YouTube yeah
24:51like that is what like one of the ways
24:52to go got it got it and uh definitely um
24:56as Sean said said uh earlier um there
24:59are a lot of people making Korean
25:01related content nowadays um I'm very OG
25:05I would say I'm like I literally watch
25:07you in high school
25:091.5 it's been a ride uh you guys are
25:12relatively very new New Kids on the
25:14Block uh but do you feel the competition
25:16still do you feel like this place is
25:18saturated do you feel like you need to
25:20like you know hustle to stand out I
25:23think it's an extremely hyper
25:25competitive hyper competitive absolutely
25:27what kind of moments made you feel like
25:29that we are a small country compared to
25:30the United States so I would say
25:32compared to the US I can't exactly say
25:34that it's the same uh competitiveness
25:37compared to the United States but um
25:39nowadays it's I think it's all about how
25:41unique you are yeah it's all about how
25:44like your I think the personality is the
25:46only thing where it can differentiate
25:47from other people because if you do
25:49content that other people can replicate
25:51then what's the point so you need to do
25:53content I feel like that shares your
25:55personality or play character mhm or uh
25:58something that people can look at and be
26:00like wow this person is very very
26:02different yeah even though you're
26:03explaining the same thing you know so I
26:05think personality is everything yeah uh
26:08am missst that nowadays A lot of people
26:10have been riding the kwave for sure
26:12right like they see Korea is like a very
26:15popping uh culture Powerhouse and
26:17there's a lot to talk about there so I
26:20feel like there's more and more crators
26:22coming in the space and even in my era
26:24as well like there was tons of K-pop
26:26reactions out there
26:28like hundreds thousands I think even
26:30like T tens of thousands and uh not a
26:33lot of them survived or new ones are
26:36popping here and there even till now but
26:38yeah I would say especially in K-pop
26:40it's super uh saturated for interviews
26:43how is the case what do you think in
26:45interviews in terms of kable like
26:47General interviews just your Niche like
26:49in Korean related content Korean related
26:51content no like it's not that saturated
26:53like for interviews as long as you have
26:55Asian boss of course like is just there
26:57like their topics are very heavy so I
27:01try to stare away from like every topics
27:03because like they're just like the
27:04leaders there and like they do it so
27:06well for me I just want like I try to um
27:10LAX Ju Just make you know um content
27:12about ker that is very light heart
27:15hearted and then you know like the
27:16younger Generations can actually like
27:17you know um Vibe with and I wouldn't say
27:20like when it comes to sh of like it it
27:22isn't saturated like people taking it
27:24like full time no it's not that
27:25saturated mhm yeah I've seen uh recently
27:28some uh more and more Street
27:30interviewers about Korea now but then
27:32it's like you upload once in a month
27:35once in two months no yeah the the
27:37physical work you have to put in in
27:39interviews or it's hard my social
27:43anxiety would be so bad if I had to do
27:45that day in Korea they they are
27:48coldhearted can you guys share cuz you
27:51guys all of you guys except for me have
27:53Street interviews what was your worst
27:54experience every single time I'm so
27:57thank you thank you thank you every they
28:00they treat you as I don't know dogs
28:03really like you get ignored hard they're
28:06like get get the [ __ ] out of my face I'm
28:09I'm don't bother me you know seriously
28:11exactly not including foreigners really
28:14ofe foreigners are on the better side I
28:17would say but Koreans in particular
28:19they're like you know why are you
28:21blocking me like I I don't give a [ __ ]
28:23you know probably I say cuz you're
28:24Korean because for me I actually I just
28:26go up to them like in English and uh
28:28yeah but then like the foreigners
28:29actually like the ones like that
28:31stresses me out yeah yeah they they're
28:33like I don't owe you anything you know
28:35like why are you filming me like yeah
28:37you know Ty portrait rights and stuff
28:40it's different with America like you
28:41can't even film them like if you just
28:43film someone in a random place they come
28:45up to you and say like is my face in
28:46that camera you know like I want you to
28:48delete it I want to see it right now
28:50that is how you uh I never had any bad
28:54experiences with doing the street
28:56interviews that I have done so for um
28:59it's mostly been people being like Oh no
29:01sorry uh I don't want to be interviewed
29:04um because a lot of the times we go up
29:08to people who seem like they would be
29:10open to talking maybe a lot of the times
29:13we want to get the more Foreigner aspect
29:15on things and uh especially around hung
29:17day a lot of the people are very open to
29:20being interviewed um some of the
29:23responses have been super wild but yeah
29:26maybe I I don't know maybe it's because
29:28of your character this time too like
29:30you're a female and oh yeah oh but I
29:33don't usually approach the people the
29:35people on my team do it really you have
29:37a team too uh yeah I was doing Street
29:40interviews for an app so wow what I
29:43learned the hard way is like this is
29:45this might be in my head but like uh a
29:47Korean dude should never conduct
29:51interviews it's worked a couple times
29:53it's going to take 2.5x times that when
29:56a female interviewer or a foreigner does
29:58it oh hund yeah hundred times maybe I
30:01should try maybe I should experience
30:03this uh I definitely think that in Korea
30:07the content creation especially on the
30:09English side is definitely competitive
30:11because a lot of people are interested
30:13in Korea so um anyone who comes here
30:17people who haven't come here before
30:19people who are just traveling um they
30:22can make a lot of content that kind of
30:25saturates yeah um the General market but
30:30I think that it is about being able to
30:33provide a lot of information that like
30:35the viewers can can use and I do think
30:38it is very competitive just because
30:41Korea is such a trending topic uh
30:43because of things like K-pop and kdramas
30:46that a lot of people are just interested
30:48interested in in general yeah I think
30:51it's very competitive and it has its
30:53pros and cons definitely uh but I think
30:56I lean more towards the to the pro side
30:58because even if it gets saturated that
31:01means like the saturation is gaining a
31:04wider audience in the world so the pie
31:06is getting bigger and bigger and bigger
31:08and even if people have like limited
31:10amounts of watch time on their
31:12individual you know lives the the new
31:15people that are getting you know
31:16introduced to Korea they'll watch my
31:18videos as well so I'm always I'm always
31:20down for more competition more creators
31:22in the Korean you know content space
31:25like the more you promote Korea the more
31:26you do content it's good for everybody
31:28that's my mind was a show yeah yeah and
31:31as like an Asian Aman uh K-pop and
31:34kdramas have definitely helped uh Asian
31:37creators or just people in general be
31:39more comfortable with themselves in
31:41their culture um I definitely found that
31:43through discovering K-pop and Korean
31:46culture I was definitely able to connect
31:48more to my roots so it's definitely a
31:50benefit right have you ever seen a
31:52Creator in the community complaining
31:54about the saturation and competition
31:56because I've seen some
31:57they're like oh there are so many people
31:59that are like following me nowadays like
32:01oh everybody's doing this and that like
32:04you know they've been like oh they're
32:05stealing from my plate I mean I you know
32:08I have no sort of sympathy for anybody
32:11that
32:12complains zero sympathy for people
32:15complain because the fact that we're
32:17able to do this for a living or as a
32:19hobby whatever it is and that fact that
32:21we have a following and people that
32:22actually listen to us and we have a
32:24degree of influence over yeah that is we
32:26should be great for that yeah what the
32:28[ __ ] are you complaining about right so
32:30I yeah it's it's ridiculous mhm I don't
32:33think I've seen any yeah I I don't yeah
32:36i' I don't know like I've seen a lot of
32:38creators uh I won't name drop or
32:40anything but they're very salty about
32:42like everybody trying to be content
32:44creators nowadays like mostly in like
32:46the first and second gen of you know
32:48Korean related content creators they've
32:51they've been around and now they see
32:52their channels kind of die and like
32:54wither not getting as much as views as
32:57these new and popping you know Tik Tok
32:59short form content creators and they're
33:01getting massive views and massive
33:03followings and they're like H it's
33:05because of these people that I'm not
33:06getting views anymore and like the
33:08algorithm is not pushing me anymore and
33:09they're like kind of Sal how was your
33:11reaction to that David as somebody that
33:13was like an OG I think I think my
33:16actions speak for myself because I don't
33:18complain about it when if I had time to
33:20complain about it I would make one more
33:21video
33:22of that has a wise
33:25answer yeah that's how I cope with it
33:27but um I I also feel pity for them as
33:29well because they're not doing well with
33:31their livings and you know they feel
33:33like the the source of that the the
33:36reason to that is saturation in the
33:37market and they're not able to stand out
33:40anymore uh they become stale so I I kind
33:43of feel you know some kind of you know
33:46uh bad feelings to to them but at the
33:49end it's it's up to you like you you
33:51need to grind you need to improve you
33:53need to experiment yeah stuff anyways uh
33:56speaking of standing out what have you
33:58tried to stand out from like develop
34:02your own brand your own identity
34:05character oh tattoos tto I was just
34:08joking I was just joking yeah well I I I
34:11said I mean you did not intentionally do
34:13that to like stand out in content
34:15creation of course not this was like way
34:17before like when I first came to Korea
34:19right cuz I got all of my tattoos in
34:21like less than a year when I was 17 when
34:24I first came to Korea yeah um
34:27I definitely think that in terms of
34:30short form content yeah appearance or
34:33some kind of standout visual definitely
34:35is plays a big effect so a lot of
34:38creators will be very intentional about
34:40either background colors the quality of
34:42their footage or some kind of even I
34:45know some content creators who dye their
34:48hair based off of like oh this will be
34:50very eye-catching to the viewer um but
34:53for me I had kind of my own fashion
34:57sense as well as my tattoos and just my
35:00general makeup and appearance uh before
35:03I started content creation it just
35:04became a kind of asset uh later when
35:08people became interested I think you
35:09stand out because you don't conform to
35:12the
35:13stereotypical uh female figure of a
35:15Korean girl right yeah I definitely felt
35:17a lot of negatives and positives from
35:20that negatives too uh yeah there's a lot
35:22of people who leave kind of negative or
35:26hateful coms
35:27onl could you give a little
35:29example um I would say just definitely a
35:32lot of body shaming um as well as people
35:37commenting on my makeup style my fashion
35:40style and a lot of qu quite a bit of
35:43homophobia in the comments I get very
35:46much a lot of hate on that oh my god
35:48well it's pride month happy Pride hide
35:52in your homes yeah uh what about you
35:55guys I don't I can't NE necessarily say
35:57that I had I did something to really
35:59stand out exactly I just as cliche as it
36:02sounds I was just being myself as clich
36:04and I onp purposely do play a character
36:06when I stream I play they call it my
36:10viewers would say I'm a nice [ __ ]
36:12nice assle and uh well that's just my
36:14personality though I'm just very bold
36:15that's just who I am but I exaggerate it
36:18to be funny you know I can't be just
36:20like mundane like the whole
36:23stream and uh I I just I think just
36:26being myself really and as cliche as
36:27that sounds that's literally just what I
36:29did yeah I've noticed that too in uh
36:31your content because I think the
36:32attractiveness of Sean's content is as
36:35he said being himself but brutally
36:37honest brutally like you know not
36:39filtering and uh just saying his
36:41opinions about like um some kind of
36:43issue or controversy or whatsoever
36:45question about Korea and people wanted
36:48that they they didn't want those
36:49sugarcoated you know glorified comments
36:52about Korea and stuff and they wanted
36:54like a real answer and I think he satis
36:57that need so I think his content is like
37:01the Small Voice in our heads of like the
37:02first thing that we think of but we
37:04don't everybody's afraid to say Al
37:06exactly so I think that's the method of
37:08standing out for you yeah yeah but that
37:10was just me being myself being a Korean
37:13guy also that obviously help right right
37:15right and uh what about you Jerry yeah
37:18and he's definitely winning the
37:22game for me
37:24standout I mean as long as for me it's
37:27more like as long as I don't create some
37:28like Asian boss type of content I'm fine
37:31yeah know literally like I don't I don't
37:33try to you know just like I said ear I
37:34don't try to like you know tread on um
37:37to on you like heavy topics and but like
37:41that was your differentiation Point
37:43liart cont just very lighthearted and um
37:45I there actually like a lot of Japanese
37:47content creators like that dist
37:49interviews in Japan that I actually like
37:51look up to so I just try to know like
37:53follow their own you like style and all
37:55that learn from the mentors yeah and I
37:57think your fashion sense definitely
37:59stands out make you fash like I the
38:02first time I saw his interview I was
38:04like who is this dude you know like his
38:06he he has some nice clothes and you know
38:07also his voice I a lot of the viewers
38:10really enjoy your voice yeah last time
38:12yeah I think I've got like a few
38:14comments about that but yeah yeah I I
38:16think everybody here has their own like
38:18unique innate personality or character
38:21that makes them stand out effortlessly
38:23you know but what I love about Jerry's
38:25interviews is he's so professional yes
38:28he is he approaches people with class
38:30that's
38:32veryy true oh my God this is such aome
38:36we got to support each other like
38:38everyone hyping each other up and like
38:41contrary to you guys everyone has to
38:43survive right so my survival tactic I'm
38:45a generic Korean dude like 30 years old
38:48and nobody cares about me I'm not
38:50attractive 23 nah don't don't don't TR
38:53don't try to do that but um but but my
38:57tactic is to gather awesome creators
38:59like you guys to yeah that a very smart
39:02one and I'm a good yeah have a very nice
39:04personality as well I'm a flat you know
39:07circled rounded and I think you're a
39:09fantastic podcast host thank you yeah
39:11that is true you don't have to like Le
39:13everyone on I don't have a strong
39:15personality or radiating presence or
39:18anything but I I know how to like you
39:19know gather people and moderate and
39:22stuff so I found my own strength I think
39:25in content intera
39:27between either creators or viewers is
39:29super important and I think you do that
39:30perfectly oh thank you so I'm lucky to
39:32find you know these guys because we've
39:35been collabing with each other often
39:38like we're you know like we've been
39:39collabing with each other often lately
39:40and it's just it's always nice to have a
39:44good group of content creators that
39:45actually want to grow together and
39:46support each other really nice I think
39:48that was kind of lacking in the Korean
39:49content oh definitely that was very how
39:52did you
39:54know I've been having good oh man I how
39:58did you no literally I've been having
40:00that thought since last no since like
40:02earlier you year like when I went to
40:04Japan and so how their Community like
40:06Creator Community was like it was eye
40:08opening and then I was like what what
40:11like what are like what is one of
40:12content creators like in Korea doing you
40:14know thing this is the most enthusiastic
40:17I saw he was like how did you know
40:20you're inside my
40:21head I but I think David I'm not sure if
40:25you can agree I would say that most
40:28Korean people yeah it's like nature they
40:31they can't see other people succeed
40:34that's true that was where yeah that was
40:36where I was going I think the I think
40:38one of the reasons that we didn't have a
40:39community is the AFF forementioned what
40:42I said about like the OG creators saying
40:44like oh I'm so salty about these new
40:45people like you know increasing in
40:48followers and like you know so like
40:50they're losing their clout and they're
40:52like I can't see that so they don't want
40:54to collab they don't want to do anything
40:56maybe that was the reason maybe maybe
40:59but still like yeah but you know having
41:02pizza Club you know like inviting faces
41:05that I know like when you invited like
41:07the old that would be you know like
41:09Hannah and um um subini and I was like
41:13oh my God like how do you even know like
41:15all these people that I watch you know
41:16type of thing but yeah yeah my my one of
41:19my goals in Korean Pizza Club is to
41:21gather all the content creators together
41:23and uh hopefully in the in the year end
41:26I want to host like a party of everyone
41:28who was on the show oh my God I'll be
41:30there a massive piece of party p uh I
41:35don't know maybe some myose intolerance
41:38yeah I'm sorry I'll get something else
41:39for you but yeah but hopefully I can do
41:42that pepperon is right M no pineapple
41:45please yes uh but speaking of challenges
41:48though uh there's a sensitive topic you
41:50might you can skip this if you want but
41:52do you think Korean related content in
41:54specific is lucra do you think it's very
41:57monetizable or are you able to make a
42:01living out of this can anybody share
42:03about this
42:04Jerry as you were talking about
42:06monetization before Oh man monetization
42:09because you mentioned that most of the
42:10audience was from like southeast Asia or
42:13like the low CPM countries yeah nothing
42:15wrong about that it's just how it is and
42:18uh it's hard to get monetized and stuff
42:20so which is actually like very true but
42:23I would say I've actually got like a
42:25little bit like in that part like that
42:28aspect cuz I try to be very specific
42:31like as to the type of topics I make to
42:33like not have people like from this
42:35country is like interest not not like
42:38that I hate them or like anything it's
42:39more like I'm trying to make a living
42:41off of this and I've done capable for so
42:44long to like understand that okay like a
42:47certain type of topic we bring this type
42:49of people so how about know like we back
42:51off and that was I was when I started
42:53you know like hey Explorer I was like
42:54okay black this black that
42:56to like bring you know like the um
42:59Western audience European audience and I
43:02would say like after making like those
43:04videos some of them went viral they
43:05stayed back and like they've been
43:07dominating you know like my viewership
43:09so which I would say you know like is
43:10something I'm actually like know very
43:12grateful for yeahh so um are you
43:15satisfied with the amount you're making
43:17with your content I mean I would love to
43:19make more but right now like I'm not
43:21complaining I am not complaining okay
43:23yeah because like I don't need like
43:26hundreds of thousands of views to be
43:27able to like leave off you know like
43:29comfortable like in a month yeah okay
43:31okay what about you guys I'm I don't
43:34think I'll ever really expose or tell
43:36how much I actually make uh I think
43:38that's just my business and my business
43:40alone yeah but I think for as if we
43:43would bring the standards to our age as
43:45a 25 I'm 25 as a 25y old kid I think I
43:48do fantastically well MH mhm majority of
43:52my income comes from streaming streaming
43:55you know always wondered about streaming
43:57I don't I do not understand a thing
43:59about like the ecosystem in streaming
44:01how do you monetize like is it like
44:03mostly a chat what do you call Super
44:05chats or well YouTube has super chats
44:07but um twitch is Twitch has donations
44:10donations uh donations and uh monthly
44:12subscriptions okay oh subscriptions
44:16monthly subscriptions so it's not like
44:18per view or ad you get money like
44:21YouTube yeah it's like you get the
44:25donations and then it comes in monthly
44:28basically you know and yeah it's
44:31just and that also keeps me really like
44:36on focus on making sure that my stream
44:38is like I bring the best I'm trying to
44:42be even if I have a terrible day I'm
44:43still always try to be at my aame yeah
44:46because people genuinely you know give
44:48money yeah it's it's their harder money
44:50and you don't want that to go to waste I
44:52have a I think she graduated high school
44:54now MH and she had um she has to provide
45:00for her family her mom dad and her
45:02grandmother yeah she's working like two
45:04job two three jobs while going to
45:05University and she even though she's
45:08tight she still saves up $5 just so she
45:10can subscribe to so that's some
45:12dedication I know so how can I possibly
45:15just go on stream and just like not be
45:17on my aame you know so it really does
45:19drive you to be a better performer I
45:21guess or you know put on a show uh how
45:24was your situation hun
45:26um so short form content especially in
45:29Korea there's not a
45:31monetization fund or like Creator fund I
45:35believe um so I have made a little bit
45:39of money off of a sponsorship but
45:42because my topics relate to things like
45:44LGBT and sort of these more sensitive
45:47topics I feel like I'm not exactly the
45:50most brand sponsorship aable person like
45:54um I wanted to do some things with
45:56fashion but I don't have a traditional
45:59cleancut Korean appearance um I wanted
46:02to do some promotion of other things as
46:04well but I feel like I'm very selective
46:08when it comes to the things I want to
46:09promote to my audience cuz I don't want
46:12to promote things that I don't believe
46:14believe in or companies that I have
46:17heard experiences about that haven't
46:20good so um you're not earning a lot from
46:22short form content everybody knows that
46:24like short form doesn't pay that much
46:26but recently YouTube is prep for theirs
46:30right so are you you you're already
46:32uploading on YouTube right uh I'm not
46:35uploading quite as much as I am on Tik
46:37Tok I try to upload daily on there but I
46:40am gearing towards doing more long
46:42format content okay yeah okay well I've
46:45been saying this for like years not
46:47years but ever since Tik Tok came out
46:49I'm I'm don't no offense but I'm pretty
46:51anti- Tik Tok because I'm I'm an old
46:54Boomer um but I've been saying this for
46:56Years YouTube is going to eat up
46:57everything like you guys need to come to
46:59YouTube like real soon like I I've
47:01predicted this like years ago like
47:03YouTube is going to monetize shorts and
47:06if Tik Tok or Instagram yeah if if they
47:09don't have any like counter measure to
47:12like balance that if they can't pay
47:13their creators all the creators are just
47:15going to come to YouTube and YouTube is
47:17paying good money for shorts right now
47:19oh they are they are my shorts are
47:21getting juicy and juicy every day so you
47:23should very you should come here you
47:25know this is Juicy come on to the
47:28YouTube uh world so yeah I don't
47:30understand the algorithm I don't either
47:33but yeah yeah recently some of my uh
47:36podcast shorts have G have been gaining
47:38millions of views and stuff and guys
47:40let's all start YouTube or work hard and
47:43uh it's not that much but YouTube said
47:46uh they've made out laid out a plan that
47:48they're going to start monetizing more
47:49and more introducing more monetization
47:52to shorts so that's a very bright
47:54feature before short form content
47:56creators yes okay uh for me though like
48:00I I I can I agree with Sean I I'm not
48:03going to reval like all my like assets
48:05or like income or anything but YouTube
48:08has been uh very generous to me and I've
48:12been earning a lot um more than my uh
48:15same age people I feel like because I
48:18speak English and it caters towards like
48:21the English audience uh that relatively
48:23has a more higher CPM I'm blessed
48:26because my biggest audience is North
48:28America
48:30and look at his eyes he's like amazing
48:33um but North America like K-pop K drama
48:36has been becoming more and more popular
48:39in that region and Europe as well so
48:42thank you K-pop thank youts K content
48:46for yeah Paving the way thank you to uh
48:49yeah but everything has its pros and
48:51cons like you know for uh for countries
48:53like India or South America or or
48:55southeast Asia even if the the
48:57viewership has low CPM they have the
49:00numbers so like you get the massive
49:03views from those countries but fun fact
49:06uh I I just heard this from VidCon one
49:08view from Norway is the equivalent of 26
49:11views from
49:12India on on YouTube or on on YouTube wow
49:15yeah CPM wise they should definitely fix
49:18that one Korean view is 11 Indian views
49:22is there a particular reason why oh
49:24because the advertis in market and the
49:26money that circulates is different I see
49:29yeah so American the American Market has
49:32like the most advertisings and stuff and
49:35is everyone's demographic here from
49:36North America mine is mostly North
49:38America and then India and then English
49:40speaking
49:41countries I think wi's us is first mine
49:44as well yeah we're all blessed
49:47then uh anyways okay so uh being in the
49:52content creator uh industry being in
49:55like the cont content creator Community
49:56have you noticed any significant changes
49:58or Trends in the recent Korean related
50:01content landscape I'll say that was late
50:06last year Korean convenience store type
50:08of thing you like Lally took over like
50:10people just going to like try out the
50:11Korean drink thing so I've actually seen
50:14like a lot of creators actually gain her
50:16like a lot of following just doing
50:18convenience Korean convenience store you
50:20know like videos I'm like wow I had no
50:23idea like Korean like I think how many
50:25times have I ever had um the Ice Cube
50:28and also like I I can't even count like
50:30probably like two times what is that ice
50:32cube like the cup
50:34of like you can buy
50:36the yeah yeah was that was trending but
50:39you have no idea really big Trend like
50:41some of the video they go into p and
50:42they like make it and they go like you
50:44know there's like Twi coming on the back
50:46I don't watch Tik Tok I don't watch
50:47short because actually I'm a grandpa wow
50:51Reals in the US like the convenience
50:54stores they're complet completely
50:55different than that it's kind of like
50:57the convenience stores are known for
50:59having not great quality food or like
51:02availability so when as like a US person
51:05when I saw the videos of the convenience
51:07St I was also really entertained really
51:10I would definitely say the biggest
51:12change is just more content being put
51:14out um I see recently a lot of Trends
51:17about like the CAF or the different
51:21aesthetic parts of Korea which I think
51:24are really good M as as well as I've
51:25seen a lot of people talking about their
51:27experiences in Korea yeah um yeah one
51:32thing is like in the old days when uh my
51:35partner and I were thinking about let's
51:37do vlogs and stuff like uh what are we
51:39going to do and I said let's go Cafe
51:41hopping he was like that's boring who
51:42does that [ __ ] you know everyone goes to
51:44the same places I I always thought that
51:46was not true because like if you you're
51:48a Visionary D yeah he
51:51predicted the cafe hopping culture and
51:54like the end L trend of like new cafes
51:58popping up here and there in Soul like
52:00it has been going on for years and it's
52:02not depleting yet you know they new
52:05cafes every single week it is not
52:07stopping yeah so maybe I should have
52:09done that but oh yeah you definitely
52:11should have anyways missed opportunity
52:13you exact you want do you guys want to
52:15go Cafe hopping I think that would be
52:17good idea yeah it's a fun one actually
52:21but uh I I know this really good Creator
52:23actually I'm meeting him tomorrow um
52:25just for uh you know friendly meeting
52:27but uh he goes to all like the fancy
52:29Korean restaurants like the Michelin
52:31ones or like the in Instagram Savvy ones
52:34what what what's that no no no I'm just
52:36like and uh he he makes them into reals
52:38and very aesthetic you know like must
52:41visit Michelin restaurant in Soul and oh
52:44I think I know which guy you're talking
52:45yeah yeah I'm meeting him tomorrow I
52:47want to be friends with someone like
52:49that you know the reason why it's more
52:51like you know for like the contents you
52:53know like circulating around is more
52:54like okay Cafe these cheap places just
52:56cheap I want to see the most like where
52:58the millionaires don't like hang out
53:00like where the big boys don't like do
53:01stuff I feel like in career content
53:04creation like that is not talked about
53:05enough uhhuh yeah yeah so see like even
53:08the even the discussion we're having now
53:10proves that even among cafes there are
53:12like different niches you can conquer
53:15like the high-end ones the cheap ones
53:17the new and popping trending ones and
53:19like the the Hello Kitty ones and the
53:21mircat ones and the Sheep ones and all
53:24that [ __ ] so like cafes are never ending
53:27and uh in Korea if you just choose one
53:30Niche Niche like a restaurant or
53:32whatever like you can just milk it out
53:34until like eternity with in a niche nich
53:38setion yeah yeah yeah so I think that's
53:40definitely one thing special about Korea
53:42it's just never ending but uh one thing
53:44I want to throw as like a discussion
53:47topic uh regarding changes in Korean
53:50content is uh I I keep on referring
53:54myself as OG but um you are OG D back in
53:58the day back in the old days back in the
54:00old days what I felt uh when I was
54:04starting off YouTube and ker related
54:07content I'm sorry D but could you give
54:08us a date like where uh it was like 2015
54:11like okay how old were you guys when
54:13David started content oh I was an adult
54:16I'm just
54:17kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding but no
54:21um but back in that day uh I felt like
54:23all the content around Korea was very
54:26positive it was very glorifying it was
54:29putting Korea on a pedestal like oh this
54:32flashy Life in Korea this is so
54:34convenient in Korea like the beautiful
54:37Korea and The Beautiful People but
54:39nowadays I feel like people are more
54:41exposing the realities and the dark
54:43sides of Korea have you felt that
54:45absolutely so it's like I I'm kind of
54:47you know it's it's cuz it gets Cloud mhm
54:51if you talk [ __ ] about C you get Cloud
54:53you know and yeah the thing thing is
54:55like you know I'm honestly it's kind of
54:58gets tiring yeah as a Korean myself
55:00we're very proud of being Korean Asian
55:02countries we very proud of being
55:04patriotic yeah we're very patriotic so
55:07you know people I always see videos on
55:09Tik Tok or Instagram people complaining
55:10and saying this and that about Korea and
55:12I'm like if you don't like Korea you can
55:13simply [ __ ] off right because we don't
55:16care if you do or not yeah if I go to
55:18Kazakhstan for instance then and I'm
55:20like oh like I'm complaining about what
55:22they do in Kazakhstan we don't do this
55:23in Korea yeah that they're going to
55:25Simply tell me to leave yeah so I
55:28understand that people like to talk [ __ ]
55:30about Korea because we're under a
55:31spotlight right now like totally get it
55:33m but you can ask every single Foreigner
55:36that I've spoken to and they'll tell you
55:39they'll say the good outweighs the bad
55:41every time exactly 100% you know yeah
55:44you know 110% of the time but I couldn't
55:46you know like agree with you more I just
55:47feel like you know the not like hate
55:50towards Korea but like when people talk
55:52about their like some certain type of
55:54experience
55:55I totally understand but then how about
55:59you know like you take your Spin and put
56:00yourself like in their shoe and see if
56:03you can actually know like understand
56:04this country or like these people like a
56:06little bit more so it's a very
56:08homogeneous society I I came from a
56:10homogeneous you know like society and
56:12the way people like in a very
56:14homogeneous society think is different
56:15from like when you have major diversity
56:18so when okay let's say like a a very
56:21simple thing that you could easily
56:23ignore it does does even require you
56:25know like a Content yeah and I see you
56:29know a Content like that it actually you
56:30know like I'm like I I don't watch it
56:32but of course like when you're scrolling
56:34like you're just I'm like what are you
56:35even talking about and I can't
56:38understand the people that cry in front
56:39of the camera I'm like like why would
56:41you press record and be like like why I
56:44don't know if you've seen that like why
56:45yeah yeah I've seen some of those yeah I
56:49couldn't yeah I mean I have mixed
56:51thoughts about uh this topic I think uh
56:55one of the factors is because Korea just
56:58over glorified itself for a long time uh
57:00a lot of people got tired of it and a
57:02lot of more people and more people got
57:04interested in Korea and actually visited
57:06and it didn't meet their expectations
57:08and then they got disappointed and they
57:10start making content about like actually
57:12Korea is not that good like actually it
57:15it's not a perfect Society it has these
57:17flaws and people that were interested in
57:19visiting Korea or have visited Korea are
57:22very uh attracted to the these New
57:25Perspectives that they haven't heard
57:27from the media or major you know uh
57:29Korean YouTubers that sugarcoated Korea
57:32before and I I feel like that's why more
57:35and more people are driven towards like
57:37negative or like critical uh content
57:40about Korea I feel like now it is like
57:42it's not negative it U it's not critical
57:44it's literally just negative I feel like
57:48from my content and it sometimes like
57:50people cannot have like honest opinions
57:51nowadays about Korea it's more like it's
57:53just War like like no reason I'm like
57:56Jesus yeah that's what I'm ex exactly
57:58throwing right now the Spectrum has gone
58:00from positive to neutral to now negative
58:04I don't think I said the neutral like I
58:05think I think people forget that every
58:07country is corrupt to a degree exactly
58:09every single no country is perfect now I
58:11think it's definitely a spectrum and a
58:14balance between exposing kind of the
58:18realities or the negatives or things to
58:22watch out for in a country because um
58:25as a foreigner here as a Korean Chinese
58:29person who grew up abroad I have
58:31definitely
58:32experienced um both the negatives and
58:35the positives of living here um I've got
58:38hate cried I've got physically assaulted
58:40when I was in Korea because of my uh
58:44because of my ethnicity um and as a
58:47foreigner but I do think it's important
58:49to have a balance and just not
58:52sensationalize every bad experience that
58:54you have but still showcase the reality
58:57of living in any country that has its
59:00goods and bads yes I think that's a very
59:02well balanced and mature answer there um
59:05yeah uh that should be the mentality but
59:08uh right now um just getting out of hand
59:11yeah it's it's getting out of Heaven
59:12just observing the the sphere right now
59:15it's like uh for example if you put out
59:17like I went to this Cafe in Korea versus
59:21I experienced this racism and homophobia
59:23in Korea this is going to get like 10 10
59:26times they know that getus I do think
59:29that while that has uh viewership of
59:32like poll I have seen a lot of videos of
59:35people making positive comments about
59:37Korea especially like people with
59:40experiencing kindness from like old
59:42Korean people or experiencing something
59:44positive I think you
59:46can give a realistic take on living in
59:49Korea without yeah sensationalizing or
59:51making every experience extremely
59:53negative right as long as there's
59:55balance it should be okay but I've seen
59:57a lot of creators that only focus on the
01:00:00dark side literally yesterday I was you
01:00:03know like a y like making a video and
01:00:05like this very very God bless her soul
01:00:08like she was very old she like 100 but
01:00:11yeah no like no she she was mad old and
01:00:14um she like we're just sitting down
01:00:16there I mean like in a good way like in
01:00:18a good way you know like I never tend to
01:00:20like you know see people like that old
01:00:21before but never seen old person that
01:00:24I'm trying to makeing points I'm trying
01:00:26to make please Contin please Contin so
01:00:28she literally you know like um like
01:00:30we're just a filing and you know she
01:00:32just came and she was like oh my God
01:00:33like you guys are you know like I was my
01:00:34friend I was like you guys are good like
01:00:36I was like God bless you ma'am like I I
01:00:38just I really want to give like a big
01:00:39ass hug right now and you know since
01:00:42like since something like that like is
01:00:43so wholesome I don't have to post that
01:00:46like on the internet like it's an
01:00:48experience for me like I couldn't you
01:00:49know um have any old people you know
01:00:52like done to me m honestly like no but
01:00:56I'm not you know like saying like they
01:00:57don't do it to like other people but
01:00:59I've just luckily been like blessed with
01:01:02um like having great experiences you
01:01:05know like with the with the elders you
01:01:07know like out here like that was why
01:01:08like I made the video about you know
01:01:10like what elders and like actually I
01:01:11think of um um foreigners like in Korean
01:01:13and a good number of times like they
01:01:14were very positive in like with their
01:01:16answers and all that and I was like one
01:01:18of the things I'm also like very tired
01:01:19of saying he like Korean men this Korean
01:01:22I I am so tired like you to stop like I
01:01:26am so tired of Korean this Korean men
01:01:28that I feel sympathy for a lot of that
01:01:30content because it's not just Korean men
01:01:33it's thank you it's all over the world
01:01:35and it's that's why I tell people not to
01:01:38go to Hung that's why I say don't go
01:01:41everybody watching do not go understand
01:01:43which camera do you have to look into
01:01:45all three of them but David how do you
01:01:47how do you feel about like Korean men
01:01:49just I don't know just being labeled as
01:01:52boys and like the worst people on
01:01:54stereotypes that content about Korea has
01:01:56placed on you what do you think about
01:01:58that um it's definitely frustrating but
01:02:01I feel like as uh people mature they get
01:02:05to know the reality and they know that
01:02:08themselves that not everybody's like
01:02:09that if they have that basic
01:02:11intelligence it's okay I believe people
01:02:13lack that basic intelligence I believe
01:02:15in humanity in general but those people
01:02:18that are still in their like early 10
01:02:21teenages and like you know that don't
01:02:23know the world they just live in the
01:02:25social media then it might you know
01:02:28alter their minds a little bit but I
01:02:29have no doubt that they'll learn
01:02:31throughout their lives and I think krama
01:02:34has part K drama K drama has a huge part
01:02:36because K drama they're portrayed as
01:02:37like this really sweet perfect yeah so
01:02:40it's like a drastic difference what they
01:02:43see from kramas and what they see on Tik
01:02:45Tok it's like colliding Anda stereotypes
01:02:49super sweet and you go to home like Oh
01:02:51I'm a nice guy [ __ ] that's the
01:02:54accent I'm a nice
01:02:57guy me coo you know you
01:03:01like me they're coming for you they're
01:03:04coming for you so hard do you want to go
01:03:06to my home eat lamon you like like you
01:03:09know that's that's the reality yeah so
01:03:11you know no but I would say like for a
01:03:13very long time know like come on like
01:03:15back in early 2000s I mean come on like
01:03:18American dudes like Hollywood like that
01:03:21had your I can't really think of like
01:03:23maybe Justin Bieber in like type of look
01:03:26like actors I like they got hype you
01:03:28know but then s of like I okay back then
01:03:32of course like short content like wasn't
01:03:33like as crazy but they're like oh my God
01:03:36like American men are like this or like
01:03:38American like you know that you know
01:03:39type of thing I think at the end we can
01:03:41just wrap it up as it's just the
01:03:43internet and internet's found to be like
01:03:46that people on the internet 247 the real
01:03:49world yeah yeah so people living in the
01:03:51real world you don't have to be
01:03:53concerned
01:03:55uh okay so uh speaking of people living
01:03:58in the real world
01:04:00us how important do you think
01:04:02collaborations are uh in terms of
01:04:04content Creation in Korea Jerry had a
01:04:07lot to say about the lackage of yes yes
01:04:11collaborations or community in content
01:04:14creation here so what do you what are
01:04:16your thoughts on this I think it's very
01:04:18important I think because like you know
01:04:20I think when we collab us us all of us
01:04:23yeah um we
01:04:25you know I uh we first met up and then
01:04:29we had dinner together and then I CU I
01:04:31was going to do kind of a vlog M where
01:04:34they because they're all amazing at when
01:04:36it comes to Fashion they all know
01:04:38everything so I was like okay I need I
01:04:39need help from these guys and I and I've
01:04:42done uh streams with them together
01:04:44before yeah he first came up with the
01:04:45idea while I think streaming with me for
01:04:48the first time yeah no I think you
01:04:50contact me first no no about the Vlog
01:04:53idea I think he came up with it on
01:04:55stream yeah and then um I love Jerry's
01:04:58content and Han as well and I was like
01:05:00oh these guys can I think can help me
01:05:02out and I I would text them hey like I'm
01:05:05have this idea do you want to collab and
01:05:07without like in a heartbeat they're like
01:05:08sure so I think I think I'm I'm lucky
01:05:12too to find these guys too like we're
01:05:14able to help each other we also give
01:05:15each other advice you know she cuz
01:05:17hans's a Tik Tok Master she's a master
01:05:20of Tik Tok and I've learned a lot
01:05:22talking about her she's very smart you
01:05:23need toach I would
01:05:26love marketing
01:05:28major so yeah I think it's an it's it's
01:05:31amazing having people that you guys can
01:05:33support each other if you have a
01:05:34question you can answer you know so yeah
01:05:36and like you know Sean having like you
01:05:38know the mind of go all this advice to
01:05:40me I should get on like live streams I'm
01:05:42like that is too much work no like I I
01:05:45really don't know how it does it CU for
01:05:47me it's more like for streight
01:05:48interviews like it's to run and G like
01:05:50you have a question you get a few
01:05:51rejections okay great but still like
01:05:53it's very easy but live streaming like
01:05:55it's work constantly yeah you just need
01:05:58to have innate ability to speak [ __ ]
01:06:01for 3 to four
01:06:02hours I'm serious I rather I'll rather
01:06:05stand outside and just get that you know
01:06:07like then just keep talking like both
01:06:09sounds very painful to
01:06:12me oh my god um I think collaboration is
01:06:15definitely important because you can
01:06:17reach new audiences that you haven't
01:06:20been able to before um for us we did
01:06:24like the Vlog together as well and I
01:06:26think we're all masters of each Masters
01:06:29or we all have our main audience on
01:06:31different platforms so if we ever want
01:06:33to overlap or give advice about how to
01:06:36put content on that platform we can
01:06:39definitely ask each other right and my
01:06:40viewers love these guys so much and it's
01:06:42just really fun yeah that's very
01:06:45interesting that we're creating somewhat
01:06:49similar content in like context wise
01:06:51Korean related stuff but the fact fact
01:06:54that our audience is very fragmented and
01:06:56like we have our own audiences They
01:06:58Don't Really overlap that's what I
01:07:00noticed right so that's very interesting
01:07:03why do you think that happens the
01:07:05fragmentation of audiences um I think it
01:07:08depends on the platform uhat as we were
01:07:11talking before a lot of people
01:07:14specifically when they're on one
01:07:16platform they mainly consume content on
01:07:18that platform um and it's kind of hard
01:07:21to get the same style or the same
01:07:24portrayal of content on each different
01:07:27platform
01:07:28like yeah so I I was very surprised when
01:07:31I uh did a collab with Shawn and Sean
01:07:33posted an Instagram post about me uh
01:07:35with me and then after that I have never
01:07:39seen so much Instagram followers gather
01:07:42like Instagram I I literally do nothing
01:07:45on Instagram like I just [ __ ] post and
01:07:48post sponsored stuff that's my sole use
01:07:50for Instagram and then the next day I
01:07:52was like what like 100 followers that
01:07:56was crazy yeah know it's actually um
01:07:58crazy like the kind of reach you can
01:08:00actually get like on this platform and
01:08:02Sean definitely has you know like a
01:08:04cult-like um Community cult like
01:08:07Community oh no literally which is
01:08:08something I actually fan base
01:08:11name I do oh drop it you need to drop it
01:08:14though so it's actually really stupid
01:08:17like the reason all Phantom names are no
01:08:19yeah the the reason why is so I play
01:08:21character on my stream I'm like a
01:08:23exaggerated version of myself yeah um
01:08:26it's a long story short but like there
01:08:28was this I know what you're talking
01:08:30about she knows she knows you're so I
01:08:32was on the when you're in the Army
01:08:33you're with a group of guys what do you
01:08:35do you get on a dating app right yeah
01:08:37and there was this one dating app where
01:08:39you had to get raid in order toand amand
01:08:43right uh and I got the top 1% off the
01:08:47app and that's why it's so stupid
01:08:50because I'm this guy on stream so proud
01:08:51of being him so proud of being in the
01:08:53top one 1% so he calls himself
01:08:561center it's stupid right it's really
01:08:59stupid that's why it's funny you know my
01:09:01fans loved it and so they're called the
01:09:031centers I'm 1ent that's that's adorable
01:09:06though you're making your fans the 1
01:09:08perents too like it's actually like
01:09:11pretty solid Jerry do you have a fan
01:09:12base name oh he just explorers the K
01:09:14explorers no just exp
01:09:17explorers and you mine is the Han
01:09:21cuties your handle oh yeah
01:09:26someone said I should name my fan base
01:09:28the H sexis SE I think H cuties is
01:09:32really it it's your handle too and David
01:09:36what
01:09:37are uh believe it or not I do have a
01:09:40fandom name it's called the Ducks the
01:09:42duck duck duck yeah remember Duck I'm
01:09:45not embarrassed of you guys the duck
01:09:47quack quack Ducks yeah we we used to
01:09:49start our videos with quack quack yeah
01:09:52no yeah um there's a long story short no
01:09:55actually um Danny wanted to make our
01:09:57fandom uh name the dicks because a lot
01:10:00of people call our Channel dick dick TV
01:10:02instead of dkdk TV they don't know how
01:10:05to pronounce it so he was like let's
01:10:06let's make it dicks and I was like no
01:10:09way so let's change a little bit let's
01:10:11alter a little bit isn't Dicky better I
01:10:14I don't want to associate dick in my
01:10:16family any in any kind of way so I made
01:10:18it into ducks and it's way cuter and
01:10:21still has the DK aspect in it so know
01:10:23yeah like yeah how did I even forget oh
01:10:26my God I think we're all ducks oh yeah
01:10:29we are quack quack yeah that was funny
01:10:31so okay in the future what kind of goal
01:10:34do you have uh or impact do you want to
01:10:36make as a Korean related content creator
01:10:40what is your mission
01:10:42statement I think the best message or
01:10:45the most heart touching message that I
01:10:47got was this one lady was like oh after
01:10:50watching your streams I quit therapy oh
01:10:53I think as content creators whenever we
01:10:56get those kind of comments knowing that
01:10:57we're out here actually being a good
01:10:59positive influence in people's lives I
01:11:01think the best feeling in the world
01:11:03that's why we do this right so I just
01:11:06want to be able to continue to on a
01:11:09grander scale be able to help and give
01:11:11entertainment in people's lives I think
01:11:13that's the best part of being an
01:11:14influencer and I think that's forgotten
01:11:16lately yeah yeah a lot of people just
01:11:18focus on the clout the followings the
01:11:20money and stuff yeah yes and I'll say
01:11:23you know like um Shan is actually like
01:11:24doing a great job on that because just
01:11:26like I said earlier on like having a
01:11:27cult like Community it's actually like
01:11:29it sounds very bizarre but then like
01:11:32it's hard to you know like get and I
01:11:33would say like one of my goals was
01:11:37actually I should just get like a
01:11:38cult-like community because like there's
01:11:40people that ride or die he want to be a
01:11:42CER he wants a c the K cult he literally
01:11:46said he wants to be a cult leader no no
01:11:49but I'm I'm pretty sure they understand
01:11:50what I'm saying but anyways no having
01:11:52like that very dedicated Community let
01:11:54call it like like that that very
01:11:56dedicated Community you know it's like
01:11:58they the ones that I can actually you
01:11:59know like take you for and just like you
01:12:01know like you said he's able to like you
01:12:03know touch your lives and able to you
01:12:04know like do certain things they
01:12:06wouldn't have you know like necessarily
01:12:07thought they would have you know like
01:12:09done if they had you know like started
01:12:11watching you know like his content yeah
01:12:13I really do it for them really what
01:12:15about you for Content creation my goal
01:12:18is definitely to create a community for
01:12:21people to tell me either they issues or
01:12:25something like that um one standout
01:12:28message that I got uh recently was this
01:12:30one younger fan of mine who was talking
01:12:33about how they discovered their bisexual
01:12:36and their friend had a really negative
01:12:39response to it they were saying like oh
01:12:41I'm really disgusted with you like uh so
01:12:44all of these kind of negative things and
01:12:47she just dm'd me and asked like what do
01:12:49I do and I had a very similar experience
01:12:51like that when I was younger when I was
01:12:53around around 12 years old my best
01:12:54friend said the same thing to me so
01:12:56being able to give advice on these kind
01:13:00of really heavy in like personal issues
01:13:03as well as being able to entertain and
01:13:05then for me my goal is also to go more
01:13:08into my music career because I did music
01:13:11from when I was younger so I'd like to
01:13:13be able to also provide value with that
01:13:15okay okay that's great yeah I can't wait
01:13:18to you know like hear a Han music Han
01:13:21music yeah music thank thank you the
01:13:25music and what is your goal David for
01:13:27pizza club uh bringing Korea one slice
01:13:29closer to the
01:13:33world that is so generic that is no for
01:13:36real like I want to bridge the gap
01:13:38between the international and Korean
01:13:39audience and bring bring them closer to
01:13:41Korea uh that's why I bring so many
01:13:43people from different backgrounds with
01:13:45different perspectives foreigners be it
01:13:48uh domestic people Koreans Koreans with
01:13:50American backgrounds such and such uh
01:13:52that's one of my goals gos uh I really
01:13:55do think I'm acting as somewhat cultural
01:13:58Ambassador I really like that role uh I
01:14:01feel pride in it uh my personal goal get
01:14:04rich oh yeah okay um in in podcasts I I
01:14:10don't know I just want to be a steady uh
01:14:12like what do you call it a household
01:14:13name in like the Korean podcast uh
01:14:16industry like dive Studios you know Eric
01:14:18nums dive Studios uh they have very
01:14:21high-profile celebrities as I want to be
01:14:24like that like that you know like some
01:14:26credibility and some you know a place to
01:14:29go when you want to hear some content
01:14:32about Korea you will you your comfort
01:14:34zone like so yeah hopefully in the
01:14:36future I can interview BTS as well on oh
01:14:39my gods on Pizza club dude you L just
01:14:42need one of the like one of their
01:14:44members just one yeah yeah I want RM to
01:14:47be on the oh my God can fully speak
01:14:50English yeah yeah I feel like you know
01:14:52like RM is actually not really like
01:14:54based on like the videos that I've
01:14:56actually seen on YouTube about BTS Like
01:14:58each member I don't think I've seen RM
01:15:00as much yeah is it because like he's in
01:15:03the army or what uh no no he he's he's
01:15:07been on a few videos like he's been on
01:15:08the Pik show like that oh yeah yeah I
01:15:11say like that is the only one out yeah
01:15:13but I want him on the show I want uh lot
01:15:16this is a call everybody let's get r on
01:15:18Pizza Club but I'm I'm working on it
01:15:21like I'm going to start contacting like
01:15:23uh celebrities and K-pop idols and that
01:15:26is true already have you know like an
01:15:28influence around that before yeah Ed
01:15:31that I'm not like strategically going
01:15:34froml BTS at the end of the year yeah
01:15:38yeah why not why not you just want
01:15:39everybody right anybody that can provide
01:15:43valuable insight and talks about Korea
01:15:45that that is
01:15:46appreciated and uh yeah uh before we
01:15:50wrap up just one more question because
01:15:52we skipped this as a a Korean related
01:15:54content creator have you gotten any hate
01:15:57or negativity towards you now we live in
01:16:00a very sensitive world yes very very
01:16:03sensitive world and we have to be
01:16:04careful with what we say now um
01:16:07sometimes even if I say something with
01:16:11pure intent just to help people MH there
01:16:15is a minority that will get offended
01:16:17yeah so you have to have a fine
01:16:19understanding that no matter what you
01:16:20say no matter what you do you will get
01:16:23that I think that's just how it is I
01:16:25think we can all agree right yeah you
01:16:27you just got to have a dick skin for it
01:16:29cuz I have a lot of messages from people
01:16:31too saying like oh I I wanted to be a uh
01:16:33content creator but I got one hate
01:16:35comment one and she was like I give up
01:16:37after that so you got to learn to deal
01:16:41with the hate and you'll get really
01:16:42interesting I think the craziest ones
01:16:45that I get is like I like women
01:16:47literally sending me of themselves
01:16:48masturbating in a video like I it's it's
01:16:52so funny that you as a guy you expect
01:16:54that like you want it cuz you you know
01:16:57like as a guy like it's oh that sounds
01:16:58nice but it actually happens and it's
01:17:00not that great you know so it's a very
01:17:03uh humbling experience but you know
01:17:07definitely yeah um and it just feels
01:17:10crap because you don't know how old they
01:17:12are MH you know and that the fact that
01:17:15it's in there in your private in your
01:17:18hidden messages hidden request and so I
01:17:21think all in all it's all about just
01:17:24dealing with it and having a thick skin
01:17:26for it you know and knowing how to kind
01:17:28of get rid of the stress yeah yeah and
01:17:31you David like I mean for K-pop yeah
01:17:34like it's an industry standard but then
01:17:36how B you know like for pizza club for
01:17:39pizza Club I haven't experienced uh that
01:17:41much hate yet uh I normally just treat
01:17:44hate comments as like immature people so
01:17:48I had a really funny comment what was I
01:17:51told Han about this which one there was
01:17:52like like uh the last time I was on mhm
01:17:55because I was like just only looking at
01:17:57the camera oh on KPC so told me about
01:18:01that there's this one person like I got
01:18:03a message from one of my viewers and she
01:18:04was like you got to see this comment and
01:18:06I'm like okay so I opened it and it said
01:18:08Sean looks like he date himself he dates
01:18:11himself Sean looks like he date himself
01:18:12he would date himself cuz he was looking
01:18:15at like the camera I thought it was
01:18:16hilarious right you know but the truth
01:18:19is I would yes no no no but they were
01:18:22right I know but you know I think it's
01:18:24just like I said you got to like somehow
01:18:28turn it into comedy it's really good
01:18:31that way just laugh about it look at
01:18:33this guy and like share it with your you
01:18:34know I think that's a healthy way to
01:18:36kind of get handle com and the most
01:18:38stressful comments for me is like not
01:18:40insults or like not shaming or anything
01:18:43the stressful ones is spreading false
01:18:46rumors that that is the misinformation
01:18:49that is the most stressful for me
01:18:50because you have to go out on your way
01:18:52to defend yourself or else on social
01:18:54media platforms you suddenly become a
01:18:56pedophile or you suddenly become like a
01:18:58racist or you have an agenda against
01:19:01like a certain group or something you've
01:19:03never said anything like that in your
01:19:05life people twist your words and say
01:19:06that oh he said this and that oh yeah
01:19:08and that is the worst form of hate in my
01:19:12opinion and it's very hard to deal with
01:19:15have you ever got anybody coming up to
01:19:17you in person and saying these kind of
01:19:19things or just comments nobody can say
01:19:21it in person to me like no damn no no no
01:19:24no like I'm not say no I'm not saying it
01:19:27that way like these these cowards don't
01:19:31have the courage to say it in front of
01:19:33the creators or influencers so they're
01:19:35hiding behind their keyboards that's why
01:19:37they're commenting I don't think H
01:19:39followers thing like that you know one
01:19:43time I was no it was actually have the
01:19:45balls okay I have like two experiences
01:19:48one was more of a funny experience I was
01:19:51uh going to the convenience store near
01:19:52near my house and someone recognized me
01:19:54from my videos and she came up to me she
01:19:57was all excited and then she went your
01:19:59head looks so much fatter in videos it
01:20:02was a she not I was like what the that
01:20:06was surrounding I hear that too
01:20:07sometimes I think that's an awkward
01:20:09comment it was really it was rather than
01:20:11like a hate comment like I don't think
01:20:12there was a malicious intent in no I
01:20:14think it was more of a funny comment mhm
01:20:17but also I had a lot of people spreading
01:20:21like false information about me that
01:20:24sort of thing but yeah that would be
01:20:27terrible cuz you have to get out of your
01:20:28way to defend
01:20:29yourselfs now you they can chop up
01:20:31everything you say exactly yeah the the
01:20:33most funniest for me is like everybody
01:20:35thinks YG Entertainment pays us oh yeah
01:20:38and hybe pays us and SM pays us and that
01:20:42we deliberately hate BTS we deliberately
01:20:45hate um but your phone cases literally
01:20:49yeah and the the thing is it contradicts
01:20:51each other like I hate black pink and I
01:20:53stand BTS but this fandom says I hate
01:20:56BTS and I stand black pink but you're
01:20:58sponsored by y but you're sponsored by
01:21:00doesn't just it just doesn't make sense
01:21:02and they have no proof at all and like I
01:21:05have never been sponsored by any kpal
01:21:07company in my whole career and I don't
01:21:09know where they get these K-pop
01:21:11companies they don't even sponsor
01:21:12anybody nobody yeah and uh it's just
01:21:15crazy out there I think if you're a
01:21:16hater you just really have to start
01:21:17reassessing your life like really I mean
01:21:20think about if you think of a psychology
01:21:22of commenting either you're writing
01:21:24something good you want to like
01:21:25compliment the person like I really like
01:21:27your content like this was amazing it
01:21:29had a good impact on me or it's like I'm
01:21:32gonna like [ __ ] on this person I'm gonna
01:21:33like harm this person so that's just
01:21:36really pathetic that's sad sad yeah what
01:21:40about you Jerry any hate comments that
01:21:42triggered you or affected you yeah try
01:21:45like not to look a comment noway I'm
01:21:47just yeah he's a pro but like I I
01:21:50believe that for your content and
01:21:52General like the the even if there are
01:21:54hate comments it wouldn't be towards you
01:21:57it would be towards the interviewees
01:21:58right now that is the thing so if it's
01:22:00towards the interview is now like nobody
01:22:02want to be on my video so like I don't
01:22:05want it targeted towards them I don't
01:22:06want people like being scared of like
01:22:08want to come on like on my channel so
01:22:11that is why I try my best to stay away
01:22:14from certain type of topics that just I
01:22:16know we just going to get like some type
01:22:18of comments but um I I'll say like the
01:22:21most recent one though I really oh man
01:22:23like I I comments s don't they don't but
01:22:26then that one was just was just very
01:22:27dumb because just like Sean said earlier
01:22:29on like live in a world where we can
01:22:31actually know like freely express
01:22:33ourselves and I don't even know why they
01:22:35had their name in Korean I'm pretty like
01:22:37the last time we actually met I I I told
01:22:38them that so like I I there's a video I
01:22:41made about what do Korean girls think of
01:22:44Western guys MH so I just asked my
01:22:47community like oh explorers like what do
01:22:49you think of Korean girls and of course
01:22:51like everyone like oh my God like I
01:22:52think they're cute I think they're very
01:22:54clean I think they're very like humble
01:22:55blah blah blah just just very positive
01:22:57and then like this one person as so this
01:22:59one person just started it and they like
01:23:01had I think over a 100 people like
01:23:03agreeing with them so saying that like
01:23:04made me mad
01:23:06so they had their name in Korean and it
01:23:09was more like why would you ask I find
01:23:11the question weird that you'd ask like
01:23:13why would you ask someone like what what
01:23:15like what do you think of Korean girls
01:23:16like we're not objects we're people just
01:23:19like everybody I'm like Jesus where is
01:23:21this coming from I know like it was so
01:23:24very I was like it's more like asking
01:23:25like what's your favorite food I'm like
01:23:27wait what's my favorite you know stuff
01:23:29like that so I was still like that was
01:23:30the most recent one that really got
01:23:32under my skin I was typing I was
01:23:34replying to that person like I was so
01:23:36mad I was replying to that no I was so
01:23:39I've never been that mad I was so mad I
01:23:42was so mad and then um I was just like
01:23:44okay you know what I just stopped it I
01:23:46was just like I have yeah I have a
01:23:47similar experience when we made the
01:23:48ramen and chill show the dating show
01:23:50there was this one koreaboo article that
01:23:52came up saying like d dv's recent
01:23:55controversial objectifying and
01:23:57sexualizing Korean men in the dating
01:24:00show blah blah blah and like the show
01:24:03didn't even drop there was only a teaser
01:24:06and this article said like the the
01:24:08intention of this dating show is so
01:24:10twisted and weird like why would they
01:24:13sexualize Korean men and like
01:24:15International women when the Korean men
01:24:18themselves making
01:24:20it I love he so passionate
01:24:23yeah he's he's like getting mad he
01:24:24coming from a personal point but yeah
01:24:26those I I can't stand those anyways okay
01:24:29we've yeah we deal with our own um
01:24:32portion of hate comments every day it's
01:24:34mentally stressful but I hope you guys
01:24:36are okay mentally phenomenal supporters
01:24:39supporters that keep us going thank you
01:24:41so much yeah yeah yeah yeah so uh it's
01:24:44time to wrap up well this was a long
01:24:46talk today so finally do you have any
01:24:49advice to aspiring content creators that
01:24:52would would want to create content in
01:24:54general or about Korea David please do
01:24:56the honors first oh me the
01:24:59OG I feel like you know the most generic
01:25:02answer is always just do it just start
01:25:04you know start recording don't think of
01:25:05don't overthink you know you don't need
01:25:07good equipment you don't need dslrs you
01:25:09don't need a studio just just do it
01:25:11start posting consistently you'll
01:25:13upgrade down the line you'll know what's
01:25:15good and bad um you'll see feedback
01:25:18through the comments you'll get the
01:25:19ideas through the comments as well so at
01:25:22the end is just about starting and being
01:25:24consistent those are the two two key
01:25:26things and about creating content in
01:25:29specific I feel like as Han said I think
01:25:32you should try to tap into your own
01:25:35interest or your personal background or
01:25:37your experiences and add your character
01:25:39to it uh rather than just following the
01:25:43trends or you know just going on the
01:25:45carea hype train because at the end
01:25:47you'll get burnt out by your own content
01:25:50if you don't have your own passion to it
01:25:52so that's that's my advice I would say
01:25:55yeah what about you guys I I call it the
01:25:57three PS three PS yeah interesting you
01:26:00first of all like David mentioned you
01:26:01need the passion for it right you have
01:26:03to work hard you have to love I mean as
01:26:05cliche as it sounds I think you really
01:26:06have to love what you do yes you have to
01:26:08enjoy it and then personality right
01:26:10personality there's so many content
01:26:12creator out there nowadays and now you
01:26:13have to be unique and the only way to be
01:26:17unique is your personality cuz
01:26:19personality is like a fingerprint right
01:26:20it's very unique and last is purpose I
01:26:23genuinely feel like your contents need a
01:26:26purpose whether it's being a benefit in
01:26:29people's lives or what whatever it is it
01:26:31has to be purposeful like it has to be
01:26:33of you know how um Jeff Bezos told
01:26:36Shaquille O'Neal to invest in companies
01:26:38that benefit people's lives you have to
01:26:40be that company so that the people can
01:26:42invest in you yeah I feel like the
01:26:44biggest influencers have that purpose of
01:26:47somehow changing people's lives whether
01:26:48it's advice whether it's sheer
01:26:50entertainment yeah so I think that's
01:26:52really those thre PS I think it's really
01:26:54important and we're still learning I'm
01:26:55still learning so three PS very easy to
01:26:58memorize so get that on your notes
01:27:01guys and Jerry oh no like yeah I totally
01:27:05agree and like we Shan three pie just
01:27:07just follow three pie fumbler you'd be
01:27:09fine what are your three p porn PE and
01:27:14po
01:27:15no
01:27:17Jerry just kidding yeah purp personality
01:27:20and um what was that again passion
01:27:22purpose Personnel yeah exactly the
01:27:24couldn't agree with each more H uh I
01:27:27would just say uh something Innovative
01:27:31creative entertaining as well as
01:27:34remember that whatever you put on the
01:27:35internet will be on the internet forever
01:27:37I think a lot of content creators fall
01:27:39into the Trap of saying or doing things
01:27:43that don't align with what they want
01:27:45person personally just to gain traction
01:27:48or gain attention um but you definitely
01:27:51have to remember that everything on the
01:27:52internet is forever so I would just say
01:27:57you guys can do it um I believe in you
01:28:00yeah I guess that's a wrap for today's
01:28:02episode this episode was about Korean
01:28:05related content creators the challenges
01:28:07the behind the scenes the hate comments
01:28:10the advice so I hope you got some
01:28:13insight from this episode yeah thank you
01:28:15guys for coming into the studio for the
01:28:17second time having us always uh welcome
01:28:20uh in the Korean Pizza Club and I'm
01:28:23expecting this video to get a million
01:28:24views because Han is here oh yeah and
01:28:27Jerry says she's like a guaranteed yeah
01:28:29like thumbnail wise if you do it wise I
01:28:32I try my best
01:28:33in So yeah thank you again for coming
01:28:36and we will see you guys in the next one
01:28:38bye-bye
01:28:40byebye honestly like don't create any
01:28:42content like serious like it's just very
01:28:45saturated can I put that in I'm just
01:28:49King I'm lit like kiding
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