00:17 you know back then I was the losing
00:20 Jesus man you want to get saved come to
00:21 the Church of t-pain and and I'll slap
00:23 slam your hook on there now make sure
00:25 you good for at least three more years
00:27 you'll be fine you know
00:38 he's sanity you treated bad
00:43 all I do is win we win no matter what
00:52 everybody hands go up
00:55 welcome to legendary
01:07 I firmly believe you're one of the most
01:09 influential artists of our generation I
01:11 made your brother thank you when we talk
01:13 about it here genius and the staff talks
01:14 about it you can really look at music
01:16 before t-pain and after t-pain for sure
01:20 and it sounds a little different you can
01:21 hear the influence damn there and almost
01:24 everybody um you know whether they
01:26 acknowledge it whether they know it it
01:27 might be indirectly or they usually
01:28 don't but they usually don't we go
01:30 acknowledge it here today
01:31 but I want to start this conversation
01:33 off and we're gonna talk about the
01:35 influence on night work but I want to
01:38 young t-pain who was it that that
01:41 influenced you when you first start who
01:43 are the guys that you looked up to um I
01:46 mean you know I think for for me to look
01:50 up to you you have to have an attribute
01:52 of just and a reputation of not giving a
01:54 [Â __Â ] what anybody says about what you're
01:56 doing so you know the usual Andre 3000
02:00 Cee Lo's the Busta Rhymes you know doing
02:04 when Lou DS to do the funniest you know
02:06 saying like people wasn't really being
02:07 comedic in their music you know back
02:09 when I was growing up so you know to see
02:11 Luna do all the funny videos and [Â __Â ]
02:13 like that like it was it was real
02:14 special to me mmm obviously you know
02:17 didn't give a [Â __Â ] what anybody said and
02:18 you know it's just I just wanted to be
02:21 one of those artists that I can just do
02:23 whatever I want to and not not care
02:26 about what I get back from it or you
02:28 know saying or what people got to say
02:29 about it so you know it's just it wasn't
02:32 like a big onslaught of people but
02:33 definitely amazing for you know saying
02:36 but you know David Banner David saying
02:39 yeah yeah that's really where I got my
02:42 you know Busta Rhymes slash David Banner
02:44 so I got my performance skills from cuz
02:46 you know they always gave the crowd more
02:48 than what they came with so yeah
02:50 definitely everybody had a different
02:51 part to play in how I got influenced and
02:55 you got the one up to a story and yeah
02:57 what a crowd definitely go get more than
02:59 what they came show for sure for sure um
03:01 wasn't it you know growing up as a kid
03:04 was there particular song that maybe was
03:07 played around the house of playing
03:08 around the crib or a moment that you
03:11 kind of fell in love with music and
03:12 realized oh this is what I want to do
03:15 like that was lift every voice and sing
03:19 that was my dad's favorite song I was
03:21 the first song I learned I play on the
03:22 keyboard so you know it I once I once he
03:25 got me a keyboard and I told him I
03:27 learned how to play his favorite song
03:29 and then that took off from they start
03:30 buying me more and more stuff every time
03:32 I got more advanced he would make sure
03:34 my equipment advanced as well so you
03:36 know my dad was a big part in that and
03:37 you know I think lift every voice and
03:39 sing was the that's the one that kicked
03:41 it off ok yeah we're going to talk about
03:43 your dad - yeah in a second cuz one of
03:45 my favorites he paints on man you got
03:46 hit for days man like we walk into the
03:49 club there's a t-pain set you walk it to
03:50 the strip club there's about three
03:52 t-pain set right you know you turn on
03:54 the radio and also TV man one of my
04:00 favorite songs from you is um stoic
04:03 Ville huh because beyond the hits that
04:06 songs like that really let me know who
04:10 you were yeah as a man and as a person
04:12 and I just wanna play a piece of it just
04:14 a set so can we play a piece of
04:22 rattlesnakes was ever gonna make it out
04:24 the grass patch seven healers have been
04:27 looking for a better deal a hood [Â __Â ] I
04:29 couldn't count on the nest that song you
04:31 know which I that's somethin thank you
04:34 thank you thank you
04:36 nobody believes in what I'm doing right
04:39 no not at all it wasn't the right thing
04:41 to do cuz I wanted to sing but you know
04:44 coming from Tallahassee at that time if
04:46 you're trying to sing when everybody
04:47 else is trying to rap you saw your self
04:50 use the corn ball you just you just you
04:52 know I'm saying range white youth doing
04:54 this gangster [Â __Â ] that everybody else
04:56 doing so you know it was it was lost on
04:58 everybody that I wanted to sing
05:00 especially looking how I did super
05:01 [Â __Â ] ugly you just don't you don't
05:03 you know everyone light-skinned just
05:08 don't try to sing at all but yeah hippos
05:12 Bobby Brown never to lanessa man Bobby
05:14 and [Â __Â ] you up at right
05:17 you kind of already had to be rich I'll
05:19 just be famous from when you was [Â __Â ]
05:20 12 it was no I don't get in the game and
05:24 try to be dark-skinned and saying it
05:26 just don't go together
05:27 you know you talked about you fought a
05:28 little bit earlier in it there was a
05:30 specific lyric that I wanted to kick in
05:33 on you probably answered the question
05:34 already but can we throw this up there
05:36 my daddy proud of me but he got too much
05:38 pride to say it out loud for me got that
05:40 keyboard off the road and brought it in
05:43 yeah you mentioned the keyboard like
05:45 it's funny we own the same way what was
05:48 the story to keep way to get the
05:50 keyboard from my dad was um thrifty if
05:54 that's a absolute word for frugal if you
05:57 will but now he saw what he'd figured
06:00 was a perfectly good working keyboard on
06:02 the side of the road outside of
06:03 somebody's house it looked like it still
06:05 work it was pretty clean didn't have
06:06 dirt on it he picked that [Â __Â ] up
06:08 brought it in the house it absolutely
06:10 did have dirt on it but now we got all
06:13 the dirt out of it and and a [Â __Â ] fired
06:16 up it didn't record or anything it
06:18 didn't do anything but I could hook it
06:19 up and play it along with songs on the
06:21 radio so you know once that once that
06:24 started happening then
06:25 that's how I developed you know learn
06:26 how to play keyboard by ear
06:28 that's um was it dad in the music was
06:30 anybody in your family in the music
06:31 before he had he had a few he had a
06:33 group you know I'm saying so you know he
06:34 did music he owned a restaurant and
06:36 forced people to listen to his music in
06:38 the restaurant [Â __Â ] what kind of music
06:40 did he do it was more of a conscious
06:43 conscious music you know I'm saying he'd
06:44 wrap a lot and you know it seemed to but
06:46 you know he did a theme song for my when
06:48 I leave that he used for like a year so
06:49 that was pretty cool Mohammed Ali yeah
06:53 Mohammed ah you know [Â __Â ] one coming
06:57 out to the Floyd Mayweather so you said
07:10 you started out singing lift every voice
07:12 is saying um but but you felt like you
07:15 had to do some just rap you had to be
07:18 hearted to be accepted oh yeah this is
07:20 what everybody was telling me you know
07:21 I'm saying everybody knew I could rap
07:23 nut you know I came from a rap group so
07:25 once I bring stuff it's not a thing
07:26 like this is [Â __Â ] stupid right and
07:30 but night I mean it worked out man you
07:33 know I took the leap and landing on a
07:37 what well we got we got some a video of
07:39 some early t-pain boys well I'm t-pain
07:47 and mr. King not a click in the master
07:50 mind about his wicked rap [Â __Â ] that make
07:52 you fall behind and I ain't joking man
07:54 paint be the name in fact I got all the
07:57 my dolls in the back of the sack and I
07:58 am [Â __Â ] man you guys just wanna suck
08:00 on my meat you give me 25 grand I let's
08:02 suck on my feet it's like I'm stuck on
08:04 my feet cuz I fall it out for no man
08:08 yeah house trash I feel like we could
08:14 judge your career by the way through
08:16 your dreads at the time is like rings on
08:18 the tree but but rapping with you and
08:27 you you could clearly rap this is not
08:33 alright everything's trash everything's
08:50 trash around around 2004 you know a con
08:53 is poppin and locked up yeah it is the
08:56 song you hit all over the radio huh and
08:58 um you did like a freestyle you did your
09:01 own rendition I'd add that bad we got a
09:03 piece of that so yeah
09:05 t-pain this is your life
09:10 try to hit this outside now they don't
09:14 put one me [Â __Â ] up
09:18 but they don't know trash right what was
09:25 this thing that got you noticed by a
09:26 column what got you know yeah because I
09:28 shot a video to it and everything so you
09:30 know it was a yeah this is what got me
09:32 noticed my icon and he came down and
09:34 then I played a DVD of the video in his
09:37 [Â __Â ] excursion that's how long door
09:39 was got their brand-new excursion to is
09:42 crazy never seen a truck that big but uh
09:45 not a you know even me in Atlanta and
09:49 you know this is that was the first
09:51 you know when anybody being interested
09:52 in one designed me so you know we
09:55 considered it and then my dad wanted to
09:57 go to different places and stuff like
09:58 that so you know we explored it but
10:00 ultimately came back to a card for that
10:02 who else was in play cuz you say who
10:04 else was in play that Interscope Records
10:06 Atlantic Geffen yeah I think Jeff is
10:15 making a comeback okay well please give
10:17 me some money there now there was a lot
10:23 of people that you know what I wanted to
10:24 a piece of the pie because I had just
10:26 started writing and you know I was
10:28 originally signed under a con as a
10:30 writer I was supposed to be just a
10:32 writer for hang out an artist no not an
10:34 artist but the first song I wrote for
10:36 con was I'm sprung rewired selected I'm
10:45 sprung your first thing with the thing
10:46 that that that really puts you on the
10:48 map yeah was originally intended fake oh
10:50 yeah yeah and I showed it to him and at
10:52 the time I think he had you know he was
10:54 doing stuff with Jesus I think he had
10:55 the sole survivor joint and stuff like
10:57 that so he was on like a real super
11:00 gangster thing at the time so I mean
11:02 really he was like I don't make songs
11:04 for women I don't make sounds for girls
11:06 like it's just not it's not gonna be
11:07 about a chick it's not gonna be nothing
11:09 bring some games of [Â __Â ] and I was like
11:11 cool let me get that CD back real quick
11:14 like that business to the club itself it
11:16 was like it's my new [Â __Â ] right so so
11:21 I'm sprout is it was it a reference
11:23 track like even what we hear it not
11:24 exactly what year right now it's the
11:26 same thing with X so you laid that fake
11:31 the same way it's a lot different but it
11:35 hit my heart man because I put someone's
11:37 working harmonies I feel like a G Wells
11:38 in there killing tomorrow
11:40 this [Â __Â ] go like this trash this is
11:47 this is the Li single form your debut
11:49 album rappa ternt sanga yeah can we see
11:52 that one see that album cover man first
11:57 of all first of all I feel like us the
12:02 collective us I'm talking about you and
12:05 me just realize maybe a year ago that
12:08 those chains were part of this shirt
12:10 yeah that's pretty cool that's pretty
12:17 cool I just want to start off by saying
12:20 that shirt was readily available for
12:21 anybody at the time anybody coulda
12:24 bought that shirt wait the shirt they
12:26 had for me to wear under that it didn't
12:29 fit so somebody had to go to the mall
12:30 and just grab a shirt real quick you
12:32 know what's [Â __Â ] up this wasn't even
12:34 the album cover I picked the jacket I
12:36 have on has Stevie Wonder on the back of
12:38 it now supposed to be I'm supposed to be
12:40 facing that the opposite way to show the
12:43 picture on the back of the jacket sure
12:49 came out your budget what's the way so
12:57 but but but let's go back a little bit
12:59 because alright you started out as a
13:01 singer you wanted to sing first lift
13:03 every voice is sing right I told you man
13:06 get out of here you need something
13:07 harder so you started rounded yeah at
13:09 first you know the singing came in handy
13:11 because I was doing hooks you know I'm
13:13 saying we all needed hooks for every
13:14 song but I would also rap on the song so
13:16 it was you know I just started hanging
13:17 around more and more rappers you know
13:19 all my brothers is a rapper so it just
13:22 became a thing that I just did just you
13:24 know just just getting into it but yeah
13:26 once the singing started happening after
13:27 that then it was like okay let's just
13:30 calm down now let's go back to rapping
13:31 he was doing good just keep doing that
13:34 okay but no but then you get to it's a
13:37 rapper turn singer yeah and and again
13:39 you know this is the moment when I talk
13:41 about that change before and after
13:44 I think this is that moment I think we
13:46 here I'm sprung it and there's some
13:48 familiar things to it cuz to me
13:49 originally I remember first hand the
13:51 song and the sounded like Miami bass
13:53 yeah just the way the bass slap was very
13:55 familiar but at that time we weren't
13:57 quite getting that and then the
14:00 auto-tune right which we weren't used to
14:02 hearing quite the way that you used it
14:05 yeah yeah it was it was seen as a
14:08 gimmick and everybody thought I was
14:10 gonna be going after that so you know
14:14 you know it became it became a staple I
14:17 didn't know it was gonna do that I just
14:19 wanted to sound different right you know
14:20 I'm saying like you know if I was just
14:22 gonna be another cat coming out with his
14:24 natural voice I'll just be another
14:25 singer you know so I needed something to
14:27 set myself apart while still being able
14:29 to use my harmony and turn my voice into
14:30 an instrument so basically I saw my
14:33 songs at the time as instrumentals even
14:35 with my vocals on it so you know it just
14:37 felt like you know I would give the
14:39 people some context on where there's
14:40 whether the instrumentals should take
14:42 you and you know how it should make you
14:43 feel and what emotions we should hit at
14:45 the time so you know lyrics and things
14:48 like that and and concepts were very
14:51 vague to me because I didn't care about
14:53 them I just really wanted you to hear
14:55 these melodies and I guess I'll say
14:56 words while I'm doing it it wasn't you
14:59 know it wasn't like a thing which is why
15:01 my songs came out so natural you know
15:03 I'm saying it was it was a point to me
15:06 to make normal situations I don't want
15:07 to make a new dance I didn't want to
15:09 make new sands or nude any of this like
15:11 here's the [Â __Â ] that happens all the
15:13 somebody's got to relate to this and
15:15 here you go so that that was your hole
15:17 yeah and still we're gonna get to that
15:21 later cuz it's a pretty dope method um
15:24 you don't write write you just know how
15:26 to go off the head in the booth yeah
15:28 yeah I try not to write and take too
15:30 long I forgot how to write in cursive
15:34 there's just a lot of things that you
15:37 know killing trees it's a lot it's a lot
15:41 no reason I want to get back to this
15:43 though because it reminds me of a little
15:44 bit where we are today and and this is
15:46 more of a commentary on the fans and
15:48 again us the collective us what a shame
15:50 that a young artist who can sing and has
15:54 a voice because when we all saw the the
15:57 concert everybody's like oh my god
15:59 t-pain could sing when we saw the mass
16:00 think it was like oh my god
16:01 he could really sing with honor - even
16:03 though you had done it you didn't hear
16:05 song what a shame that you as a young
16:09 artist felt that you couldn't come out
16:10 with your natural singing voice that you
16:12 needed a gimmick and I look at a lot of
16:14 these young artists today with it's not
16:17 totally the same but with the trolling
16:18 on Instagram it might be a rapping you
16:20 might really regret but you feel like
16:21 you got to do something crazy
16:23 absolutely but somebody just known for
16:25 that thing right not really for your
16:27 music so yeah I mean you know it's cool
16:29 people just don't realize even Ebro now
16:31 still says I can't tell when you're not
16:34 using out of town like even when I'm not
16:36 using it you just can't tell and you
16:39 know people ask me why did I ever use
16:41 autotune and you know cover up my voice
16:44 with it and like I said it was just to
16:46 set me apart but on my first album there
16:48 was minimal auto-tune like I didn't I
16:50 don't turn a lot on my first album I'm
16:52 in love with a stripper no yeah that was
16:55 merely had any right it was like yeah it
16:56 was just on the breakdowns so you know
16:58 I'm saying so and people didn't notice
17:00 if nobody had any idea they just was so
17:03 used to hearing me with auto-tune it was
17:04 just like I guess that's still there I
17:06 guess that's just what it sounds like
17:07 but the fact that I kept using it and
17:10 things like that people got weird about
17:12 it but I'm like my first album didn't
17:14 have that much auto-tune on it my second
17:16 album was full of auto-tune second I
17:20 wouldn't double platinum first album
17:23 still sitting it gold I'm probably gonna
17:24 keep doing this one but it also goes to
17:29 you know listen people people often ask
17:31 for things that they don't really want
17:32 they don't know is it true I heard where
17:39 did you get the idea to use like just
17:41 start messing with Auto soon like what
17:43 was the thing that you heard I heard it
17:44 on a Jennifer Lopez oh oh we got we got
17:49 that too we could play for you yeah I
17:50 heard it on the Jennifer Lopez song it
17:52 was a dark child remix of if you had my
17:54 love I got you for reference can we hear
17:56 that yeah it was weird
18:06 and she only used it for a second and
18:08 the whole thing so basically you saw the
18:10 reaction of the people and especially
18:12 with the second album and figured listen
18:14 I used to stick with this absolutely it
18:16 seemed to get you know more traction and
18:18 you know people didn't notice it anyway
18:20 so wants to use you know saying I feel
18:22 like I didn't have a point to prove and
18:24 you know more and more people started
18:26 using it so I was like man I'm not gonna
18:27 stop first for sure you know even better
18:29 kick me out of my [Â __Â ] so yeah I just
18:33 kept going man it felt fun anyway a lot
18:36 of tune it's fun as hell like even when
18:38 you just find it and use it on different
18:39 apps on your phone like it's just fun to
18:41 do you know everybody want to sound like
18:43 a perfect pitch singers well I'm not I
18:46 get it man not long after the first
18:49 album man you really became I mean
18:52 throughout your career you became this
18:54 in-demand feature and man collaborating
18:57 and the way that I imagine I feel like
18:59 and this was me from the outside looking
19:02 in at summer wasn't in the industry or
19:03 in any of these label meetings but it
19:05 kind of felt like labels would adjust
19:07 album release dates based on they could
19:10 clear the t-pain feature because it was
19:13 always like the first single feature and
19:15 it wasn't it wasn't you know it was
19:18 different man cuz you know people wasn't
19:19 collaborating like that back then right
19:21 and you know even my management at the
19:23 time was like hey so this guy wants to
19:25 put this song out this date but this
19:27 other guy wants to put this song out
19:28 like right after that I'm like all right
19:30 let's do it he's like but but that's two
19:33 songs like that's fine like let's just
19:37 keep going and uh I did all the songs I
19:39 wanted to do everybody keep calling me
19:40 let's keep but not be everywhere do you
19:43 remember your first feature request
19:45 yes it was the young bloods oh yeah
19:51 the young bloods yeah me and Sean Paul
19:53 got together at the studio but you know
19:55 the first major major joint was uh d40
19:59 you doing that yeah yeah I remember that
20:02 one yeah you you also you also produce
20:11 and you write you also wrote for Charlie
20:12 Wilson yeah yeah yeah that was kind of
20:15 oh yeah I'll definitely definitely
20:16 produced and wrote that and he took the
20:19 credit but that's fine no big deal he
20:21 talked to trade me it was that trip you
20:25 know cuz that's uncle Charlie told you
20:27 Thunder it was cool man it was cool we
20:30 did I mean we actually did like a few
20:32 songs you know that was just the one
20:33 that stuck but you know having Charlie
20:36 Wilson in my house recording these
20:38 things was a trip to me so it was it was
20:40 it was different but you know I knew I
20:42 had a job to do and it was I had to get
20:45 well first on Charlie Wilson on how he
20:47 sings real quick just to get to his
20:48 writing style and get to his singing
20:50 style and make a mess but man that was
20:52 that was a trip dude I did not
20:54 understand I had to call a mom tell my
20:56 mom to come to my house again man like I
21:11 said the whole industry and we're gonna
21:13 talk about that some more but the whole
21:14 industry I feel like if you didn't have
21:16 a tape a feature it was like what were
21:18 you doing like you know if you didn't
21:22 have one time I'll and beat on your
21:24 album like it's just when you know I'm
21:26 glad I got to that to that status man
21:29 because it I mean it proved the point
21:30 that I didn't really need to do what
21:32 everybody else wanted me to do and I was
21:33 still you know be able to make some make
21:36 some friction in the game and still be
21:38 Who I am and still not give a [Â __Â ] what
21:40 everybody was saying about me so yeah
21:42 one one guy who you became an important
21:45 collaborator for and you know if you
21:48 really think back and you know this to
21:50 be true we know dj khaled now as a
21:52 father of the Masada I think I've seen
21:54 Cal in the spider-man movie like Khalid
21:56 is everywhere he's on the soy milk
21:58 Khalid is everywhere but I mean you guys
22:01 were doing joints like you know when
22:03 Khalid is really trying to prove to the
22:04 world in the game like yo I'm a DJ but
22:07 I'm an artist right right as well I mean
22:08 you guys are doing welcome to my hood
22:09 I'm good yeah what's your relationship
22:12 with Khalid like how did you like a
22:13 little girl um you know Khalid when he
22:16 came the first time I met him he came to
22:18 the studio and he came with a bunch of
22:20 food and I didn't know why and but
22:23 apparently it was like like you know I
22:26 got this song I want you to do here's an
22:28 offering kind of thing
22:30 goddamn Native American or something I
22:34 came in water in tobacco and [Â __Â ] I
22:38 don't know man but now he um he was a
22:40 night that he was super energetic I
22:41 didn't understand it at the time would
22:43 you know all I've ever only heard him on
22:45 the radio in Miami and I was living in
22:47 Miami at the time but he came through he
22:49 showed me a bunch of his joints and it
22:50 was like man I just want you to do this
22:52 real quick and I mean I eat the food so
22:56 I had to do it the first song was I'm so
23:03 yeah and I did that and two-step the
23:05 same night so that Wow yeah well I was
23:08 pretty cuz I did a lot of songs the same
23:10 night lo with Florida and shouted with
23:13 blouses the same night when the on fire
23:17 you just keep going you know I'm lucky
23:23 I'll get fired from my job in one day he
23:25 said keep my head above water
23:33 2010 man um again when we talk about
23:37 generations I think our parents you know
23:39 you go to sporting events and they have
23:42 Queen we will rock you right in there
23:44 sure and that that's the staple yeah and
23:47 I think we have one that showing Callie
23:49 gave us Oh sporting events is even
23:52 presidential can we can we we don't
23:54 acknowledge Trump can we check out AMA
24:09 thank you everybody yeah how do you like
24:13 my new entrance music first what was he
24:18 about the middle rock I thought he was
24:23 crazy [Â __Â ] right Barry
24:26 Barry oh how did that moment feel man
24:29 when Barack came out to said is my new
24:32 theme music that was cool as [Â __Â ] man
24:33 that was about the coolest day out and
24:35 had happen in a while I got kids man it
24:52 was dope seeing it man it was it's a
24:54 level it's levels to that you reach in
24:58 life and that was a big milestone for me
24:59 man like you know I'm saying you know
25:02 the things started happening more you
25:04 know corporations start calling me more
25:06 prices and my shows went up it's got
25:08 crazy it was just a lot happening to
25:10 where that staple point in my life that
25:14 that kind of made sure I'm gonna be all
25:17 right you know I'm saying like that that
25:18 that seeing that at that moment was like
25:21 alright we good now we were straight
25:23 let's keep let's let's make more let's
25:25 do more days I always wondered how that
25:27 song kind of came about him and Callie
25:30 came to genius one day and I and I asked
25:32 them so I just want to see from catalyst
25:34 perspective of that song is made and
25:37 then we're gonna ask your perspective
25:38 then we roll Calvin yo bro we got
25:42 getting this done he had QA people in
25:44 studio yeah I'll type it crazy shake you
25:47 want me to watch cartoons I couldn't
25:49 take care of like you - spongebob oh
25:50 yeah I got a I said pain not today we
25:53 have to record so we put the beat up and
25:56 painless goes right in the booth and you
25:59 know the talk button mm-hmm that you
26:01 talk back to the might movie and your
26:03 cows meet the way me and pain make
26:05 you always wants me to give them my my
26:08 my talk like what you talk
26:10 what's you about right now and I just
26:12 kept telling Pam man we got a win man
26:14 like I was like I gotta turn my album
26:16 and we got a [Â __Â ] wing man
26:18 like we got a win so you know he goes in
26:21 all I do is win win I'm not lying and
26:24 then he stops he goes I'm like oh [Â __Â ]
26:26 that's dope then he the next part he
26:29 keeps going every time we have a
26:30 conversation I record and he keeps going
26:33 and I remember that part where he goes
26:35 hands go up that's when he said yo you
26:38 like that one part right there and then
26:40 [Â __Â ] pause and the head I'm like oh my
26:42 gosh is so crazy so that's what happens
26:46 when you have good energy in a room when
26:49 Calla has an interesting way it sounds
26:51 scary but what was from your perspective
26:56 was was it really just him kind of
26:58 badgering you like yo we got a winner I
26:59 gotta turn my always a lot of that it
27:01 was more food this time that [Â __Â ] was
27:08 crazy oh yeah I got some money it was
27:11 crazy but not we I mean he was in the
27:15 studio and the way I was doing songs at
27:17 the time I would do my ad-libs first so
27:20 you know I would I would listen to the
27:22 beat for a while and I was jobless in
27:24 there you know building yeah yeah and he
27:36 didn't know what I was doing he was like
27:39 trash and I'm like yo just give me a
27:46 give me a second I'm gonna come to you
27:47 in a minute I'm just sitting I'm sitting
27:49 where the rhythm needs to be it I'm
27:50 setting the points where I need to get
27:52 to and need to stop adding all that
27:53 stuff so you know it was just a way of
27:55 processing it you know nobody in the
27:56 room understood it but me cuz I've you
27:58 know I can hear everything in my head so
28:00 then I was like giving a talk giving it
28:02 you know and you he did all that we got
28:04 a win we got a win and it's missing it
28:06 and then I started doing all I kept
28:10 talking and and and I was like okay next
28:12 thing and then he kept talking all right
28:14 Kelly you gotta leave you gotta get out
28:17 was it was it sorted all over smart like
28:20 cuz it's almost like him challenging and
28:23 I yo we got a win and then you're like
28:24 no all I do is win yeah yeah it was it
28:26 was kind of like that but you know the
28:29 things I was thinking of the things I
28:30 was saying back to him he kept saying no
28:32 that's not big that's not big and I'm
28:34 like okay well what about I want to win
28:36 that's not what about I'm trying to win
28:40 no no that's not it god damn Kelly I
28:43 guess all I do oh let's go all I got
28:46 damn record button so yeah I mean it
28:50 worked out but you know I mean Khaled
28:51 Khaled gives you that motivation Kelly
28:53 really bigs you out crazy and it makes
28:55 you feel like you're the best [Â __Â ]
28:57 artist in the world when you're doing a
28:58 solid form so it definitely helped well
29:01 you know let's go man no cat um you
29:10 mentioned low and shorty you did that in
29:13 the same night yeah i think we all know
29:15 i've heard the story before about low
29:18 originally at some point and it up with
29:20 Nelly Nelly passed on it you guys know
29:23 the story have you heard this oh boy
29:26 what a [Â __Â ] this goddamn the
29:29 nightmare of a song solo went to Nelly
29:34 first because he had the apple bottom
29:39 and Nellie said it was corny so
29:44 obviously not then it went to Paul wall
29:48 mmm and Paul wisely did three verses on
29:51 it he had the whole song done I went
29:53 back to Atlantic Atlantic sent me back
29:55 out then it went to I thinking what the
30:00 Webby after that no no no that was
30:04 shouty sure he went to West how they
30:05 went okay so it went to Nellie then uh
30:11 then Paul wall and then to Florida okay
30:15 and and ten million records later yeah
30:19 diamond record 13 any other record
30:31 because you you were just there kind of
30:33 just cranking out hooks right well yeah
30:34 yeah it was just a full night it was you
30:36 know I was in with Atlantic and when you
30:37 go out with Atlantic they they lock the
30:39 doors they don't let you leave machine
30:42 absolutely but now they just they give
30:44 you a bunch of beats and I just I told
30:46 everybody just leave me in here by
30:47 myself let me let me get this recording
30:49 going and I'll come out with at least 10
30:51 and then I came out with eight I lied so
30:54 that was I came out with eight and you
30:57 know two of them was low and Johnny
30:59 Wright I always loved record because you
31:02 always think about like what if what
31:04 could have been right ultimately I think
31:06 records kind of end up with it's
31:08 supposed to end for sure um are there
31:11 any other stories that might surprise us
31:13 where record started in one place and
31:15 ended up in another I'm sure this
31:16 happens all the time
31:17 ah I could tell you about a record that
31:21 would have been like the biggest record
31:22 of my life that never came out let's go
31:25 there was me I'm sure and Michael
31:29 and they would have it yeah yeah so that
31:33 would have been the biggest record of my
31:34 [Â __Â ] life and it never came out
31:36 because the dude that I had doing the
31:38 reference he leaked the record and
31:40 Michael and Michael Jackson didn't want
31:42 to do it anymore since it was out yeah
31:45 who's the guy that leaked the ringer
31:47 because we could get it we could just
31:48 make his life a hold it it's called stop
31:52 playing it's on youtube its t-pain I'm
31:54 sure Michael Jackson stop playing it's
31:56 [Â __Â ] it's was the crazy record Wow
31:58 yeah Wow sucks I wish I had it
32:03 damn man you see what happened you stop
32:05 saying about your song right in a little
32:15 bit because because you talked about you
32:18 know kind of keeping it simple and
32:19 relatable and very conversational which
32:20 I think it's a hard thing to do for a
32:24 lot of songwriters you know to have a
32:26 relatable song is everything mom so I
32:29 want to talk about a few kind of song
32:30 writing techniques and a few things that
32:32 you do that I think we hear and we love
32:34 but we don't know this first but you
32:37 know we talked about low right yeah and
32:39 when you sing low kind of the vocal
32:41 production your voice goes low low low
32:43 yeah up down is up now you're chopping
32:48 the screwed one of the kind of the best
32:50 most underrated t-pain songs there is
32:53 you chop and screw your vocals as you're
32:56 singing chopped and screwed yeah that
32:58 song was originally supposed to be
33:00 screwed we actually slowed it down like
33:02 wait a lot and they're like how the [Â __Â ]
33:04 you gonna perform this and think about
33:07 that we just go ahead speed back up do
33:09 the regular the Texas tour where does
33:18 that come from no like the idea to do it
33:20 because you do that often and again it's
33:21 one of those subtle things I think as a
33:23 listener you don't notice but it really
33:24 adds to the record with that vote
33:26 sometimes I think of you know having
33:29 different people to help me out with
33:31 references to things and just from the
33:34 sheer disinterest of wanting to pay for
33:37 that I just got to do it myself
33:39 not just I'll try to make different
33:41 voices like you know and and just give
33:43 it a dynamic of more than one person
33:46 doing this because I feel like when
33:47 people listen to a song you really
33:49 participate with the parts that sound
33:51 like it's a bunch of people doing it
33:52 because it sound like it's supposed to
33:54 be a crowd and those are the ones you
33:55 stick the mic out in the crowd and you
33:57 know saying everybody knows to say that
33:59 part so you know I feel like when you do
34:01 different things like that it gives them
34:03 a sense of well that sounds like a
34:04 different person I can do that do you
34:06 know in that I think that gives people
34:08 more confidence to you know shout things
34:11 out at concerts and you know learn that
34:13 specific part of the song or something
34:15 like that I just I just got a weird way
34:17 of thinking and I'm usually yeah it
34:24 creatives not super creative that I
34:26 ain't know no way that I don't want to
34:28 light your soul - this is a good
34:31 came from God you have a lot of songs
34:35 about alcohol yeah buy you drink right
34:39 bartender drinking partner one more
34:41 drink with Ludo blame it on the alcohol
34:43 with Jamie Foxx man yeah I guess I kind
34:47 of bring it up as we talk about the
34:48 simplicity of songwriting yeah
34:50 and I and simplicity could be great I
34:53 don't know if there's no more of a
34:55 simple great lyric and this next one can
34:58 we show this from bartender she made us
35:00 drinks to drink oh we drunk them gods
35:06 William [Â __Â ] Shakespeare okay
35:17 solid line you gotta be gonna say man it
35:21 works it's exactly what happened do you
35:29 ever get listen there's a lot of
35:32 [Â __Â ] who wish they could
35:36 do you ever get to a point like maybe in
35:39 your head where you feel like what you
35:42 might overthink a lyrical or does it all
35:43 kind of come out absolutely yeah
35:45 absolutely I'm always trying to do extra
35:47 [Â __Â ] you know if you loved you know
35:49 everybody want to be a lyricist man and
35:50 that's it's one of them things that when
35:52 you when you pay too much attention to
35:53 it that means nobody's gonna pay
35:55 attention to it cuz it's just too much
35:57 it's too much thought people want to
35:58 have fun especially on songs like Martin
36:00 and stuff like that
36:01 I'm not trying to make you think you're
36:02 already drunk that's not gonna make you
36:06 do anything like I do you know nothing I
36:08 don't sound like a dick right now but I
36:09 got a club in my house right and we got
36:11 a good place to test the songs out we
36:15 could just an interview day of man we
36:16 should have but now I got a club in the
36:20 house and it's like we there's 13 TVs on
36:23 the wall so you know when buying these
36:27 13 TVs I'm like they gotta be 4k they
36:31 gotta [Â __Â ] do these they got to be
36:32 smart TV isn't like wait a minute no
36:34 they don't everybody's gonna be drunk
36:35 nobody's gonna be [Â __Â ] watching these
36:37 TVs and if you are watching these TVs
36:39 you're not gonna be able to see in
36:40 [Â __Â ] for cake it's gonna be drunk
36:42 instead so hey it's like if you think
36:44 too much about it and you do too much
36:46 then and you just and you're in the club
36:48 look I'm trying to host a party and I'm
36:49 like what's nobody watching these damn
36:52 TVs it's probably cuz it's porn but
36:54 still but the point is is it's for Kane
36:57 and and I'm trying to just throw a good
36:59 party here for porn in 4k is a bit it's
37:04 different man I want to talk about
37:07 another then pour up first man yeah
37:10 right okay I want we're recording this
37:18 I want to ask about it again man very
37:23 simple but sometimes like the simple
37:25 this stuff sticks right I can't believe
37:28 it can we show that lyric put you in the
37:33 somewhere was cancer now I'll have you
37:39 know shot shout-out to OB who works here
37:41 in the genius team one of the leads in
37:44 our video department and he's actually
37:46 from Wisconsin and he was a little
37:50 offended by this not how you say it but
37:54 what what he has to acknowledge is that
37:56 people from Wisconsin say with cancer
37:58 they do all the time
38:00 they said it's remember Bobby's world
38:03 the mom when Bobby's where as I don't
38:04 you know that like they talk about like
38:06 they're from Montana some [Â __Â ] and it
38:08 turns it to this whole different thing
38:09 that first of all great line let's start
38:17 let's [Â __Â ] start with that now I mean
38:19 that was one of them things and I was
38:21 one of my odds were three thousand
38:22 moments I felt like I could make
38:24 anything yeah I'm definitely not the
38:31 only person that's done that but every
38:32 time I've gone to Wisconsin that's how
38:34 they say Wisconsin right and no and
38:36 became a thing I mean your something on
38:37 Wisconsin shirts now seeing everybody
38:40 with the Wisconsin absolutely did you
38:43 know ok so in the studio and and and
38:45 doing this did you know that will be a
38:47 thing not even a little
38:48 not even a little bit out there I've got
38:50 skip right over that I was you know I
38:53 was in my Batman and you know even with
38:56 the simplicity now when we talk about
38:57 simplicity the track this whole session
39:00 the whole entire session I can't believe
39:03 it was six tracks the whole thing and I
39:06 went to work with dr. Luke after this
39:08 and he was like man your track sound so
39:09 big and I'm looking at his session he's
39:12 got 200 tracks on this session and it
39:14 sounds just like mine what are you doing
39:18 and you know I'm trying to teach him
39:20 simplicity I pulled up the session and
39:22 he's like man six tracks huh what's
39:24 [Â __Â ] up now I mean it was just
39:29 simplicity at its finest man they're
39:31 just going just whatever is in my heart
39:33 man I just lay it down if it's if it's
39:36 all my heart is that easy to get out and
39:38 I feel good afterwards and people are
39:40 gonna feel good hearing it you know
39:41 typically how long does it take you to
39:42 make a song like there's some artists
39:47 like it you know if I spent too long on
39:49 the song I just move on
39:51 nah yo boy just spin along on a song
39:54 Jesus Christ Kanye that's that
40:05 particular sound probably took two hours
40:06 oh wow yeah and I was from start to
40:09 finish that was you know making the beat
40:11 recording on it and everything so I want
40:14 to start to actually we're talking about
40:15 this sound we're talking about this
40:17 method of songwriting this style you
40:20 know the auto-tune and like I said it's
40:21 not just auto-tune this is the way song
40:23 right and when the Jews first starts to
40:26 notice because you're like omnipresent
40:29 like I said every time you turn on the
40:30 radio you hit C pain mmm when did you
40:32 first start to notice that you weren't
40:34 the owner your heart is doing it when
40:35 did you start to notice your influence
40:37 uh when they started thinking that
40:39 anybody who used auto-tune was D pain
40:41 you know it was a lot of you know I
40:43 would always get Google Alerts and [Â __Â ]
40:46 like G pains new song to painters on
40:49 them like this and then what really
40:55 kicked it off was when snoop used it
40:58 yeah yeah when he used it I was like you
41:02 know that's got a [Â __Â ] up but its new
41:05 kind of gotta let him do it but it was I
41:08 mean it was like again that was another
41:10 milestone and staple in my life but you
41:12 know it started becoming more and more
41:14 and once Newton was allowed to do it
41:16 then everybody was like oh I guess oh we
41:19 nobody's gonna say we bitin let's do it
41:22 yeah yeah yeah you know because you know
41:25 the influence that you know I think
41:26 influencing young artists is kind of
41:29 like the natural order of things right
41:30 like if you grew up on t-pain and you'll
41:32 kind of adopt some of his style but you
41:34 know there was guys in the game who are
41:36 already super established mega stars
41:38 uh-huh adopting the style um one and
41:41 there's a video out there I'm not making
41:43 this up was did he when he did last
41:45 train to Paris yes a video saying that
41:47 he was gonna give you half a point I
41:48 don't even know if we talk about points
41:50 anymore when we said all right
41:52 give you half a point on his album yeah
41:55 for blessing him and and and allowing
41:59 him or blessing him to use autotune yeah
42:01 yeah that was did you ever get that
42:03 check did he pay up I did get the check
42:08 give it up for Diddy I thought that
42:09 story was gonna go left but now we um he
42:17 actually he stayed true does work you
42:19 know did he have boss in all aspects so
42:21 it turned into something that I can look
42:24 back on and like oh okay well somebody
42:26 [Â __Â ] somebody show with respect
42:27 somebody paid homage to it and you know
42:29 it was a respect thing so you know once
42:32 I worked with him I mean I worked with
42:34 him for four ten days on that album you
42:36 know and just children the ropes and you
42:38 know Don Richards is in there with me a
42:40 lot and we just kept going and kept
42:42 going and kept doing different things
42:43 and I mean it really worked out I helped
42:45 him a lot and a lot of [Â __Â ] came out of
42:47 it so yeah that's dope man that's super
42:49 dope um kanye west is another one and
42:52 you see in interviews you know you guys
42:55 collaborated on a good life yeah yeah
42:57 and I think it was an interview with
42:59 Jeff Bhasker one of Kanye's producers
43:02 and talked about Kanye would perform
43:04 good life and obviously you weren't on
43:05 tour with him mm-hmm
43:06 so you know that's when he first started
43:08 messing around with auto-tune yeah on
43:10 stage and you know after graduation we
43:14 come at eight always in heartbreak yeah
43:16 and you know it's always kind of been
43:18 reported that you were in the studio
43:20 with him yeah for sure
43:22 but what did you guys actually work on
43:23 during those 808 session uh everything
43:25 we had writing sessions you know I'm
43:27 saying I was in there helping with the
43:28 with the you know a lot of the 808 you
43:31 know and he said he wanted that sound
43:33 from my first album so you know I
43:35 brought all the stuff that I used to
43:38 make my first album which was pretty
43:39 much just [Â __Â ] GarageBand but hey you
43:45 know trade secret I guess and now I just
43:49 helped him out and just you know show
43:50 them I you know what what vibes or what
43:52 feelings I had making my first album and
43:54 it kind of just migrated over to you
43:56 know it's heartbreaks that's the same
43:59 808 I think is one of those those
44:02 pivotal albums yeah
44:04 because you know Cuddy was a part of
44:06 that album too and that's kind of the
44:08 birth of Cuddy the very like infestation
44:11 for Cuddy becomes who he is and and know
44:13 you know Cuddy is super influential to
44:15 this generation artist you know I think
44:17 about a year after we get 808 we also
44:20 get Drake's so far gone yeah Drake has
44:23 been very vocal about Kanye's influence
44:25 on him yeah but then when you look at
44:28 that t-pain influence Kanye to do that
44:31 album I don't know if you see what I'm
44:32 getting that like like it's this really
44:34 influence this almost like a DNA that
44:36 weaves through artists and it spreads
44:39 but at the end of the day yet DNA is
44:41 kind of yeah how many gets artists today
44:43 absolutely um I mean it really came down
44:46 to the same fact of what Kanye told me
44:48 like you know he really needs there to
44:51 meet that fate awaits and heartbreaks is
44:55 rappa ternt sanga because rappa ternt
44:57 sanga was a bunch of love songs with a
45:00 ton of bass in them and i'm making love
45:04 songs with bass love songs being the
45:07 heartbreak and 808s being the base so in
45:11 a sense we just kind of remade rappa
45:15 ternt sanga but you know in all honesty
45:17 just like Kanye said he just had a
45:19 better marketing plan is how you a
45:23 marketing brightness what happened
45:25 so yeah I'm like hey I got something to
45:28 do with it I'm fine I know in my heart
45:30 where all this came from man you know
45:32 what I'm saying and I know what what has
45:34 influenced a new style of music and what
45:36 you really can but you know people can
45:37 say oh now I was listening to this guy
45:39 wasn't even listening to you but yeah
45:40 but that guy got it for me so right the
45:43 DNA's in there I know there's this
45:46 concept of there's a very specific way
45:49 that you use autotune yeah and not
45:51 everybody is there there's a right way
45:53 in the wrong way to use it it's just no
45:55 it's not a right and a wrong way there's
45:57 just a more efficient way to do it you
45:58 know I'm saying instead of going in and
46:01 just singing and then slapping auto-tune
46:02 afterwards you definitely want to see
46:04 what notes you can hit and what notes
46:06 you want to stay away from and where the
46:08 grace notes are and things like that you
46:10 want to study before you take the test
46:11 that's that's really all it is you know
46:13 so you know it turns out just much
46:16 better when you actually [Â __Â ] take
46:18 your time and make sure it's right first
46:20 instead of getting into movements and
46:22 turn on auto-tune and the engineer don't
46:25 know music or keys or progressions or
46:27 anything like that so you don't know
46:28 what key to put it on you just slamming
46:30 all chromatic and anything you do that's
46:32 what that sounds coming up so this is a
46:34 more efficient way to make it come out
46:35 right have to speak to my engineer
46:47 another collaborator oh man you guys
46:50 have such an amazing relationship little
46:53 Wayne yeah yeah give it up from God
46:56 monies II can't believe it there was an
46:58 entire t-wayne album you had a new one
47:00 on one up your new album
47:02 don't talk which is my favorite joy
47:04 talking that [Â __Â ] when um what would the
47:11 sessions like with Wayne when did you
47:13 realize cuz you away and have a real
47:14 good camaraderie mm-hmm when did you
47:18 realize that you won't wane click like
47:20 was there a specific studio session or a
47:21 specific song when you were like oh [Â __Â ]
47:23 like our Styles really mesh um I think
47:26 it was more so when I don't think we
47:29 knew we meshed as well until we went on
47:30 tour together because once we got on
47:32 stage together then we figured if we
47:34 found out we both perform just alike and
47:36 we you know I'm saying we did we just
47:37 started doing the same thing on the same
47:39 part without even talking to each other
47:40 then it was just like oh [Â __Â ] what and
47:43 then we got you know we became you know
47:46 better friends after that but that's
47:49 really when the the t-wayne stuff
47:50 started happening a lot more because we
47:52 did the t-wayne album on tour
47:54 we both had studios on our tour buses so
47:57 we would just go back and forth between
47:59 these bus and we would literally take
48:01 turns like we would say I did the last
48:03 verse is your turn to do the next one
48:04 you got to you got to come with a song
48:06 with the verse on it I'll put a hook on
48:07 it then it's my turn again
48:09 and you know we just kept going back and
48:11 forth but I think we found that we found
48:15 our synergy from just just being around
48:19 each other so much and pretty much
48:21 having to because it was all tour and it
48:23 turned into a friendship that neither
48:25 one of us really planned on
48:27 it was very annoying trying to keep up
48:28 with each other and it never and it
48:32 never turned competitive it was always
48:34 like this is gonna be [Â __Â ] great
48:36 we're gonna make a ton of money together
48:37 it never turned into I'm gonna out rap
48:40 you on this song I'm gonna out try I'm
48:42 gonna try to out thing you or out
48:43 auto-tune you own anything you'll just
48:45 like let's make music Nicky like this
48:46 let's do this you know I'm saying is
48:48 this [Â __Â ] be the friends we are I
48:50 don't have to turn into nothing
48:52 and and and the see you ain't give it up
48:54 for that man because that's also a tatin
48:57 way down when we eventually got I don't
48:58 I don't know we didn't get in a real
49:00 time so to speak obviously did this
49:03 business but now that this talk of
49:05 t-wayne tours you answer is definitely
49:07 that a real fair yeah I'm kind of kind
49:09 of kind of holding it up right now you
49:12 hold it you're the older yeah yeah
49:14 because I'm on tour now you know I'm
49:15 saying I'm on tour it I don't really
49:16 have time to I like doing my [Â __Â ] in my
49:18 crib now just I just renovated my whole
49:20 studio so I like being at the crib by
49:22 myself doors locked chilling no
49:25 influence TVs off or on porn either one
49:29 and you know boom it is very powerful
49:31 for the brand you should watch it more
49:33 you should really watch it more it's
49:34 just a thing to do at 4k spin 4k my data
49:39 plan is on fire right now I want I just
49:44 want to go into what I'm jay-z do a
49:51 death of auto-tune yeah what was that
49:54 time like for you you know that did you
49:57 feel that was I was there at that Summer
49:59 Jam and yeah it was weird
50:03 it was weird it was weird um did you
50:06 feel that was directed at you did you
50:07 feel like Dan they really well no I came
50:09 out at the Summer Jam to support it
50:11 right you know saying I came out and I
50:13 just wanted because I knew he was gonna
50:15 be there and you know I was basically
50:18 like let me know when you're performing
50:20 I'm ago supported Ebro set it up hero
50:22 talk to whoever you talked to like if
50:24 ain't nobody's getting on stage with
50:26 jay-z bro like he just about to walk up
50:28 and say I'm going on stage and it was
50:31 just crazy [Â __Â ] happening I mean but G
50:33 but you know he had the fruit of Islam
50:35 with him like you know
50:36 suits this big [Â __Â ] you got a pan you
50:39 got a pass-through like levels of
50:40 security like [Â __Â ] check out up the top
50:43 secret and when I came through
50:44 somebody's yeah t-pain coming through
50:47 and they [Â __Â ] part of the red seat
50:49 and make sure I can get on the stage
50:51 like and then they let me out to eat
50:53 just pop that gets person one is like
50:55 Summer Jam first of all so much I'm
50:57 security by itself is too much and then
50:59 you got the [Â __Â ] everybody that has
51:02 ever heard of Malcolm X in the back and
51:05 and it's just you got to get through all
51:08 that it's like the Soul Train line of
51:11 suits and [Â __Â ] and I'm trying to get to
51:16 but it was I mean it was it was the I'm
51:19 not gonna say it was easy but it was
51:21 already talked about it was apparently
51:23 already set up right once once somebody
51:25 yelled opsi paint coming through
51:26 everybody split apart and like here you
51:28 go that's the way you go to do what we
51:30 already talked about you doing so you
51:32 know when I went up that I went over
51:33 there to support it I don't think
51:35 anybody told Jay that was the part
51:38 that's a really important part is this
51:41 very important part of the whole thing
51:42 you're definitely gonna want to tell
51:44 them that I'm coming out there but yeah
51:46 I mean no I mean I think it worked out
51:49 the way it was supposed to you know I'm
51:50 saying I mean even in the song say y'all
51:52 she painted too much but you know I
51:53 didn't listen to that part when the song
51:55 first came out so when I first heard it
51:56 I was like could that be could that have
52:05 been him giving credit to you and I
52:09 don't know ya know what he paints [Â __Â ]
52:11 y'all it's he painted too right that's
52:13 what I'm saying when I when I when I
52:15 first heard the song I didn't even pay
52:17 attention to him saying that I don't
52:18 even know he said my name in the song I
52:20 was just so shocked like you know once
52:27 I've sat down to listen to and I was
52:29 like oh oh he's talking about rappers
52:31 okay I get that song didn't work though
52:35 the perception is that you know cuz Jay
52:38 had the reputation of if he says you
52:40 know we're not wearing jerseys no more
52:41 we went nuts as change he made the
52:43 Yankee hat more famous than Yankee did
52:45 flatten majority we give jr. credit for
52:47 a lot of your absolutely
52:49 and the perception is and I don't think
52:51 this is the reality because all those
52:53 who never went anywhere but the
52:55 perception was that death of Aldo
52:56 someone was supposed to stop the trend
52:58 mm-hmm did it affect you in any way did
53:01 you see any slowdown at that point was
53:03 it but not I mean and the crazy thing
53:08 was I was on so much music at that point
53:11 we was already planning on [Â __Â ] like
53:14 stop it I was gonna disappear for a
53:15 while because I was on so much music I
53:17 said I've really started getting
53:18 oversaturated right and it turned into
53:20 this whole t-pain is on too much [Â __Â ]
53:22 radio stations complaining they pulled
53:24 it my records off because that you know
53:27 as you know like in radio stations they
53:29 got the the separator joint to where
53:31 they don't they make sure they don't
53:32 play too much of an artist right after
53:34 each other right but if my name is on
53:35 every song then the [Â __Â ] machine is
53:37 shutting down like you know I'm saying
53:39 like the actual machine is just shutting
53:41 down and they're not able to not play me
53:44 back-to-back so everybody everybody
53:52 hands like that when you leave here
53:54 please just don't tell your friends what
53:56 happened trash but no but you know so I
54:03 was actually planning on like getting
54:04 ghost for a while so it was already in
54:07 place for me to do that but at the same
54:09 time when that song happened it happened
54:11 like two months before we were planning
54:13 to do it and it just seemed like I
54:15 disappeared because of the song Wow
54:17 so you know it turned into jay-z killed
54:19 your career and people started believe
54:21 this whole thing and you know and then
54:23 Kanye kept using it was like wait a
54:25 minute so I didn't know but you know it
54:34 was it affected me through the fans eyes
54:37 right not my fans just you know just it
54:40 affected through the public eye but I
54:42 knew what the truth was and not you know
54:43 I wasn't affected mentally about or
54:46 anything like that it just was like guys
54:48 the internet's crazy I just could not
54:51 deal with the Internet so I had to get
54:53 off of that for a while so you got this
54:55 new album mm one oh yeah yeah oh yeah on
55:00 it my favorite song
55:02 and first of all I have to favor it's my
55:06 dog birthday yeah [Â __Â ] brilliant
55:08 thank you I'll do what I can because I
55:09 close my eyes and all I see is just
55:12 canines running around in the club
55:16 dancing with with women with humans yeah
55:19 absolutely it's an amazing song thank
55:22 you we're doing a campaign with barkbox
55:24 by the way they're actually shooting the
55:26 video for us so it actually is gonna be
55:28 a dog's birthday so if you want your dog
55:30 to be in the video just follow me on
55:32 Instagram just follow instructions
55:34 we're currently casting dogs if you
55:37 didn't do what I was saying it was
55:42 smooth that was smooth that was like you
55:45 know get some [Â __Â ] for me it'd be
55:49 weird if I didn't say it I had to say it
55:51 as a joke that had to be made gotta get
55:53 them [Â __Â ] in your video another song
55:58 my favorite some of the album's go talk
56:00 Oh with Lil Wayne can we hear a little
56:03 bit of goat talk let's say a little bit
56:16 yeah that was pretty cool
56:19 it's nothing humble on this no no [Â __Â ]
56:22 none of that [Â __Â ] what made you go on
56:25 with it what did you see that say you
56:26 know what this is the feeling for today
56:28 I just think there hasn't been a song
56:32 like that that I've done you know I'm
56:34 saying you know any song that I'm always
56:36 talking about my career anything like
56:37 that it comes off as complaining you
56:39 know it comes off and I'll try to take
56:41 my shed and why would you do that oh my
56:45 but no I you know that one was just like
56:48 you know what [Â __Â ] this [Â __Â ] man [Â __Â ]
56:50 this [Â __Â ] this [Â __Â ] [Â __Â ] y'all [Â __Â ]
56:52 [Â __Â ] this whole thing I'm gonna goddamn
56:53 goat and that's just what it is and and
56:56 then give it up come on that's why we're
56:57 here tonight thank you and Wayne and
57:00 Wayne is kind of the perfect piece
57:02 because I feel like Wayne when you talk
57:03 about the influence I once saw an artist
57:07 on Twitter like yo man we started all
57:10 that you know multiple mixtapes in one
57:13 year oh boy I was just like have we
57:17 heard of Michael doing you know Wayne
57:23 Twain is definitely a guy who I think
57:25 has influenced an entire generation
57:26 pressure and you know I understand the
57:29 younger generation wants their own
57:31 credit and deservedly so right but you
57:34 can't disrespect Wayne you just
57:36 everything's its own Souls can't what
57:39 was the reason that you called Wayne and
57:40 that you thought Wayne would be great
57:42 for the song because he's you know
57:43 saying he's also one of the goats you
57:45 know I'm saying so you know and we we
57:47 came together to create a force that has
57:49 not been yet to have been met so you
57:53 know when when T Wayne get together it's
57:55 something different it's too many it's
57:58 too many different genres there's too
57:59 many different angles to come at the
58:00 game and you just can't [Â __Â ] with
58:03 t-wayne at all so you know if I was
58:05 gonna talk to my [Â __Â ] I'm gonna need the
58:07 other side of t-wayne to talk that [Â __Â ]
58:08 to know you know and I know he got
58:10 something to say and I know he just went
58:12 through all his legal issues and he just
58:13 went through the label issues and [Â __Â ]
58:15 like that this man has
58:16 got them he got something to say so I
58:18 know this I'm like don't hold back
58:20 [Â __Â ] these [Â __Â ] anybody talk that [Â __Â ]
58:23 it's me and you we good talk your [Â __Â ]
58:26 bro and keep talking that [Â __Â ] either
58:28 to beat go off and just keep just keep
58:31 going long as you want to that's my
58:33 favorite thing that way dude he don't he
58:35 don't let the beat stop him you know say
58:36 even when he doing award shows and you
58:38 know saying he'll hold another verse
58:39 after he supposed to stop performing
58:41 like you know I'm like do that do that
58:43 but talking [Â __Â ] the whole time [Â __Â ]
58:44 these [Â __Â ] there's a lyric on the song
58:47 that I think encapsulates everything
58:48 what we're talking about I made a whole
58:51 career of me having to save [Â __Â ] yep
58:54 and they turned it back on me and I
58:56 yeah you know I'm saying um talk about
59:00 the save for like amigos may not yet I
59:03 mean that that's you know you know back
59:06 back back then man they call me the
59:08 music out there hey soos you know I was
59:13 the music Jesus man you want to get
59:15 saved come to the Church of t-pain and
59:16 and I'll slap slam your hook on there
59:19 now make sure you good for at least
59:20 three more years you'll be fine you know
59:24 so you know I mean that that's just
59:27 that's just what happened man and I I
59:28 did a lot of that for a lot of people
59:30 and you know when it was basically my
59:33 turn you know return the favor cuz you
59:35 know and a lot of people when they hear
59:37 return the favor they feel like oh you
59:39 just want them to get back in song but a
59:41 lot of people don't know most of those
59:42 features I did back in two thousand
59:45 eight and nine and ten I did all them
59:47 for free no yeah no oh yeah I mean I did
59:51 all the free and all I wanted you to do
59:52 is get back on my [Â __Â ] that's it I just
59:54 wanted to even swap because I was gonna
59:56 charge you just as much to charge me so
59:58 trash trash so I did a lot of stuff for
01:00:03 free and then you know nothing was
01:00:06 reciprocated you know Sam but even if I
01:00:08 got somebody to even try to be on the
01:00:10 song they've come back in charge and I'm
01:00:12 like well remember the let's thumb let's
01:00:23 go ahead and let's go ahead and not
01:00:24 charge me their row and they just
01:00:26 this is rappers by truly be the worst
01:00:31 whoa you want air on my weekend we got
01:00:34 the stage man who are we talking about
01:00:36 everybody did literally I can't even
01:00:38 like it you know there have been there
01:00:41 been like I got on a song I can't
01:00:45 remember what it was now but I basically
01:00:47 got on a song with some went through two
01:00:49 artists I did the hook on it
01:00:51 and the main artist didn't want the song
01:00:53 anymore so it became my song and the
01:00:56 other artist that was featured on it
01:00:57 didn't want to be on it anymore because
01:00:58 it was just me big trash yeah and then
01:01:06 the artists that the song belong to it
01:01:08 the first place he flopped crazy not
01:01:10 sure what double platinum he's second so
01:01:14 yo [Â __Â ] so how do you how do you get to
01:01:16 the point of forgiving I'll just say
01:01:20 [Â __Â ] it you know saying I just said
01:01:21 whatever dude like that ain't you know
01:01:23 my life doesn't run off of your emotions
01:01:26 you know I'm saying and the things that
01:01:28 you do for me don't define me so you
01:01:30 know I've been doing this I've been
01:01:32 doing this by myself for a long time I'm
01:01:35 always in the studio by myself I don't
01:01:36 really need yo Big Ups you know I'm
01:01:38 saying I don't really need your help
01:01:40 I don't need your feature I don't need
01:01:41 it I mean you needed me first and I was
01:01:43 on the reason you got my feature because
01:01:45 you came and asked for it which means
01:01:47 you needed me was me you've benefited
01:01:48 from me I thought I probably wouldn't
01:01:50 even benefit from you anyway so [Â __Â ] it
01:01:53 yeah I gotta give it up man because if
01:01:55 they don't guys we got you pay no album
01:02:00 congratulations on the new one man what
01:02:02 was the statement you were trying to
01:02:03 make with the one up man I know you
01:02:05 heavily into your video games yeah yeah
01:02:07 I'm in the video games a lot man in my
01:02:09 game my ass in the photo file you cannot
01:02:14 see that [Â __Â ] coming but not really real
01:02:19 big in the video games if everybody know
01:02:20 about one-up it's the it's the green
01:02:23 mushroom from Mario and basically when
01:02:25 you get that green mushroom you get a
01:02:26 you gonna actually life you get another
01:02:28 chance to beat the game so that's where
01:02:30 1up came from okay so this this - this
01:02:33 just a new chapter there's my extra life
01:02:36 and if nobody noticed my shadow on the
01:02:38 okay just want to let you know just rekt
01:02:39 guys are you got the album cover you
01:02:41 wanted this time yeah yeah actually got
01:02:44 the album cover I wanted so you know
01:02:46 everything's on there man the whole
01:02:48 whole walk of life all the Grammys the
01:02:49 big ass chain which is coming back by
01:02:51 the way how about that guy okay big ass
01:02:53 chains coming back and she's got
01:02:54 finished gotta go pick it up top hands
01:02:57 you know all the plaques you know the
01:03:00 gotta keep moment solid it's on the part
01:03:02 of it man it's part of the journey you
01:03:04 know that's dope man um lastly man and
01:03:08 and and and I just want to kind of sum
01:03:11 it up with I mean we talked about a lot
01:03:13 and it was very important when we were
01:03:15 doing research and really figuring out
01:03:17 how this conversation was gonna go that
01:03:20 it wasn't just about auto-tune you know
01:03:22 we built this as the voice that changed
01:03:24 pop music and it wasn't a slight to you
01:03:27 but I think to say the voice that
01:03:29 changed hip-hop or the voice that
01:03:30 changed R&B wasn't fitting it's all
01:03:33 popular music your voice changed and
01:03:35 auto-tune was a part of that but you
01:03:37 know we talked about your songwriting
01:03:39 and simplicity and the honesty of your
01:03:42 songwriting and the humor and the image
01:03:44 that you will put on the sunglasses at
01:03:46 the top hat yeah three rings and your
01:03:49 look would tie into actually what the
01:03:51 music sound like hmm the singing and the
01:03:53 rapping when when t-pain is is
01:03:56 remembered and what will fall off in the
01:03:58 future we start to look back on see
01:04:00 pains career what do you really want to
01:04:02 be remembered for probably man just just
01:04:04 trying to just just try to be true to
01:04:07 everybody and keeping it real myself and
01:04:10 really trying to spread love instead of
01:04:13 this [Â __Â ] [Â __Â ] that everybody else
01:04:15 trying to all this just toxicity in
01:04:17 there you know that everybody trying to
01:04:19 spread these days and you know it's
01:04:21 ridiculous man you know it is so much
01:04:24 and you know trying to put light on good
01:04:26 news instead of you know control of my
01:04:28 crowd with fear and you know things like
01:04:30 that like you know I don't know man not
01:04:33 following I don't want to I want to be
01:04:35 seen as a follower you know saying like
01:04:37 even if you see me with the with the man
01:04:39 person with the loo of the time man
01:04:40 first and you know I'm saying I suppose
01:04:42 just pull out a ton of [Â __Â ] mind and
01:04:44 [Â __Â ] be like oh you better pull out 10
01:04:46 grand I got bits and
01:04:47 open it up and I'll just pull out a
01:04:48 Nintendo switch like it's not I just
01:04:54 don't feel like carrying it my [Â __Â ]
01:04:56 it's it's different things like I don't
01:04:58 I don't I just want to be seen as t-pain
01:05:00 you know I feel like they were there
01:05:03 would be many more of me but I feel like
01:05:05 I just want to be one of them you know
01:05:07 I'm saying just just just a good person
01:05:11 just a good person any time I've gone
01:05:13 done a concert or anything like that or
01:05:14 anybody said anything about me on reddit
01:05:16 or anything like that it's always I
01:05:18 meant t-pain that's a real [Â __Â ] good
01:05:20 nice person like I always want that to
01:05:23 be the case you know saying oh that's
01:05:24 what I want to be remembered not being
01:05:26 famous not the music or anything like
01:05:28 that when you look back that dude's cool
01:05:31 [Â __Â ] that's a fact we could have tested
01:05:33 that right and then finally are you cool
01:05:37 when you hear cuz again like I said I
01:05:39 hear music and I hear um I can hear your
01:05:44 influence whether it was a direct
01:05:45 influence or something that you said in
01:05:47 motion um you know I I think I have this
01:05:49 theory that rappers are using a lot more
01:05:52 melody Gaia than they were and you
01:05:54 weren't the first like ja Rule saying
01:05:58 you know I'm stayin right right biz
01:06:00 Markie's sang a little bit we could go
01:06:01 back singing has always been a part of
01:06:02 hip-hop but now rappers use a lot more
01:06:04 melody than they ever used mm-hmm and
01:06:06 singers use a lot more rap Cadence's and
01:06:08 everything gets kind of pushed to the
01:06:10 middle your rapper singer hybrid and I
01:06:12 think you were a big part of that when I
01:06:14 listen to artists like Travis Scott
01:06:16 little baby you know even Drake guys who
01:06:19 are doing tremendous things on their own
01:06:21 absolutely I can still hear a little bit
01:06:22 of a t-pain sure in it do you hear that
01:06:26 and does that make you proud absolutely
01:06:27 no it makes me super proud to know that
01:06:29 you know something I started that can
01:06:31 you know not so much started but
01:06:33 something made popular and really
01:06:34 influenced the new sound and a new genre
01:06:37 we made our own genre now you know I
01:06:39 don't know why but people still call me
01:06:42 even if I'm singing on a song and I have
01:06:44 a rapper rapping and you can hear the
01:06:46 vast difference in what these things are
01:06:47 having it nope you still rapping
01:06:49 not--that's though you know I I still
01:06:51 feel like there's a connect there with
01:06:54 with everything it's all the web it's
01:06:56 all loved it's all brackets
01:06:57 everything is connected man
01:06:59 you know as I used to be jealous of it
01:07:02 and I used to be you know envious and
01:07:07 and and and I used to hate it I used to
01:07:09 hate it but now that I'm just a more
01:07:11 mature person I was flattering now you
01:07:13 know saying now is flattering no it's
01:07:15 and I was it's turned into a it's turned
01:07:17 into a gifts and a trophy now you know
01:07:22 I'm saying now I can you know even my
01:07:23 kids hear it like oh yeah you need that
01:07:25 I don't know who that is but that he he
01:07:28 listens to you a lot and you can hear it
01:07:32 now man and is turn it to trophies now
01:07:34 it's turning - that's me that's me I did
01:07:37 that that's me that's me and I it feels
01:07:39 better and it feels more like flattering
01:07:41 other than you know somebody just biting
01:07:44 my [Â __Â ] that's dope man
01:07:45 yo pain I'm so glad we got to do this we
01:07:49 wanted to do this wow I think you are
01:07:51 one of the goats in this industry one of
01:07:53 the ghosts in this music in this genre
01:07:55 in this culture and we wanted to give
01:07:58 you your props here genius-level so
01:08:00 everybody please man stand up give it up
01:08:03 for my man t-pain the genius
01:08:09 yeah II know about a bit you know say
01:08:13 you gotta hear from