00:00Richie Freeman who's going to talk to us
00:02about his experience in
00:04podcasting um and so I'll get started
00:06with my first question uh in just a
00:08moment but just a reminder for everyone
00:11to uh remember to be on mute but by the
00:14time we get to Q&A um maybe you could
00:16even since if it stays small like this
00:18we could even have people come off mute
00:19and ask their questions but otherwise
00:21our tried and true method is to pop your
00:23questions into the chat you can send
00:25them directly to Kate juel my colleague
00:27or you can um have them so everyone sees
00:29them because then even Richie sees them
00:31and you know he can kind of preview them
00:33but um whatever is comfortable for you
00:35we really want the second half to be
00:37really student uh Le uh questions but I
00:40will get us started and get um get
00:42everything warmed up with just a few
00:44basic questions to begin so uh Richie if
00:47you want to introduce yourself as well
00:49when you as you answer the first
00:50question feel feel free but my first
00:52question is just to tell us about um
00:55what you studied at Maryland and
00:57activities you participated in um as a
01:00great so again thanks so much for having
01:02me thanks everybody for joining um so
01:05again my name is Richie Freeman I
01:07started I would graduated from Maryland
01:092001 I was an art major uh that's the
01:12major that I uh finalized um but I was I
01:15did circle around a couple I Was An
01:17Architect M major for about a hot minute
01:20and literally a hot minute um decided
01:22there's too much math involved so it
01:23wasn't my thing but um I love Maryland
01:26it was a great place for me um and I met
01:29a lot of great people still stay in
01:30touch with a lot of folks and in the
01:31community afterwards as well um and from
01:35there I basically went into I was an art
01:37major focusing on graphic design trying
01:40to get in with advertising marketing
01:42that kind of thing um work for a couple
01:45different companies after college and in
01:50Communications um have also have worked
01:53in it as well as business development um
01:56I owned a couple businesses as well
01:57which one we talk about too and became a
02:00writer um early on and Marilyn really
02:03supported me from there too so I uh it
02:05was a great it's been a great great
02:11relationship wow we can probably have
02:13you uh on for other chats we could to
02:16tap you for entrepreneurship and writing
02:19and so many things and and um were you
02:21involved in any student clubs or
02:23anything at Maryland um not so much in
02:25clubs I did um Hell House U I'm Jewish
02:28so I did Hell House when I was there
02:30um we did a couple murals but not so
02:32much groups um as much as I wish I would
02:35have I will and I I mentioned this we
02:36did the um uh oh gosh Kate I forgot it
02:40was like the speed the speed meeting um
02:42last month and I kept telling people
02:44that you know the the opportunities of a
02:46big school like Maryland is the
02:48networking and I did not take advantage
02:51of that while I was there I don't know
02:53why I honestly don't know why I mean no
02:55other reason Justin I just um you know
02:58you you kind of get distracted Ed with
03:00um with what's going on in your major
03:03you tend to be I was doing a lot with
03:05stuff with the art world and things like
03:07that um I also was wrestling at the time
03:09too which I took on professionally and
03:12so I was I was traveling a little bit
03:14more too but um but I will say that the
03:17one outside of the groups I would say I
03:20definitely met and connected with people
03:23that had similar interest with me and
03:26you know we kind of developed our own
03:27Rapport about sharing information and
03:30hanging out and things like that um but
03:32I definitely wish I would have been a
03:33part of much more um many more groups
03:35when I left College though um I started
03:38to get involved in like the networking
03:40which and I was talking with folks with
03:42uh folks about this last last month too
03:44at at Maryland and it wasn't like you
03:46know you're out there slinging business
03:48cards kind of networking it's more just
03:49like you you'd be surprised how many
03:51people that you meet Maryland is a huge
03:53Place Mar univers Maryland is a huge
03:55place and any City I went to I knew
03:57somebody or somebody had a connection to
03:59Maryland which and especially on the
04:00East Coast um so you just never know who
04:02you're going to meet you know so I I
04:04always found a lot of success from those
04:07uh networking events early on for
04:09sure fantastic yeah it's a small world
04:12and if you look on LinkedIn there's over
04:14300,000 uh just on LinkedIn alone from
04:17Maryland so it's amazing and wrestling
04:19totally counts as an activity so yeah
04:22I'm sure you were quite busy with that
04:23too so how when did you decide you know
04:26you wanted to go into podcasting how'd
04:28that happen so um it's interesting I
04:31mean a lot of the stuff I've been able
04:32to do you know it kind of comes down
04:35with that networking or slash just
04:37trying different things you know my CV
04:39is pretty long but it's also that I
04:41tried a lot of different stuff and
04:43because I wanted to um I also when I
04:47graduated and I know I'm dating myself a
04:49little bit too you know the uh the
04:52opportunities of finding people to do
04:54stuff wasn't as prel as was now when I
04:55first got into writing I knew nobody
04:57literally nobody I no family members
04:59anyone was doing art for that matter
05:00nobody was an artist I mean I did Art
05:02growing up I enjoyed it in college I did
05:05I wanted to pursue it and I have but I
05:07didn't have anybody lean on at the time
05:08not like now you can look online and
05:10find a group that does everything right
05:12so um that was different and um but when
05:16it came to podcasting I was doing
05:18writing at the time I put out I think
05:21like two books at the time maybe one I
05:23think it was two maybe two books at the
05:24time and a friend of mine who um was an
05:27editor for a website called quick and
05:31dirty tips.com which is a part of
05:33McMillan publishing they are quick and
05:36dirty tips is still around and they
05:37basically are a podcast house for
05:41different topics there's Fitness and
05:42there's the main person woman named her
05:44she goes by grammar girl that kind of
05:46started the whole thing she's very very
05:48popular uh m is kind of like the the the
05:51four figure of the group and um so
05:54anyway a friend of mine who I who knew
05:56about my writing stuff and she liked I
05:58had a funky background and art and for
06:00wrestling and that I was doing writing
06:03already she wanted somebody that had
06:04like a good sense of humor about topic
06:06so she reached out to me and she said uh
06:09she goes look I have a I have a column
06:12open up and I think you'd be great for
06:13it all right what is it and she told me
06:15it was for anep um a podcast and a
06:19column called modern manners guy and I
06:22was like oh like you know edicate and
06:23stuff like that and she goes yeah but
06:25it's not like Hy toyy it's not like
06:27white glove you know just like that kind
06:31of thing it is about being presentable
06:34so she goes we need somebody that's like
06:35funny and have like a so it was more
06:37like a Seinfeld Larry David curvier
06:39enthusiasm approach of like listening
06:41and watching people who are annoying and
06:43you know you're in line behind the
06:44person at Starbucks that's on their
06:45phone while they're trying to order
06:47everybody's waiting for them or you know
06:49you start dating somebody and how they
06:52the dining etiquette they have or a job
06:54interview all these kinds of things and
06:55I was off I thought this was great so
06:57for modern maners guy I wrote a column
06:59every week and then I did a podcast
07:00every week so I basically recorded what
07:03I was writing and I had then I was able
07:04to add more personality to it and more
07:06more conversations to it and um that's
07:10really how it got started and so I was I
07:12was fortunate that I part of a platform
07:14that already existed but at the time
07:16podcast really wasn't what it was today
07:18I mean now it's between thanks to video
07:21and social media Instagram and and Tik
07:24Tok podcast is just having your own TV
07:26show back then it was really there was
07:28no visual for it it was just audio which
07:30was a very harder which which which a
07:32much harder concept for people to follow
07:35now the video part to me is that sells
07:37it that's like crazy so I did that for a
07:39number of years had a book come out from
07:40there kept doing other books um I
07:43stopped for modern manner guy for a few
07:45years and then I re I went back to it a
07:47couple years ago and um it just revamped
07:50it and started doing more more video
07:52stuff because I liked interviewing
07:53people and I like talking about funny
07:55topics and I wrote I made cartoons about
07:58different topics and stuff so I really
08:00enjoyed that interaction that's really
08:02what got me started just by it was the
08:04echo chamber of doing other stuff that
08:06attracted other people to give me an
08:11opportunity so many parallels I was I
08:13was just thinking to myself when I got
08:15you know started in career advising
08:17career counseling I didn't think I'd be
08:20people as I am right now and we do quite
08:22a few of these um so I'm not a pro but I
08:25may be a little better than when I
08:27started but there you go kind of you
08:30just got to learn right throw yourself
08:32into it all right so we want to hear um
08:35like what a typical day looks like for
08:37you and whenever I ask this question
08:40generally people will say oh there's no
08:41there's no typical day so maybe it's a
08:43typical week month year um you know
08:45obviously you don't just do the exact
08:47same thing every day but students just
08:49love to like they want to be able to
08:50imagine like how like what you're doing
08:54yeah so I mean the biggest thing about
08:56when it comes to podcasting and it comes
08:59to creating anything in the Arts um you
09:02know I make a list of things that I need
09:03to get done regarding um topics or
09:07regarding writing and that's really
09:08where a lot of the stuff comes down to
09:10you really have and I was not
09:11disciplined in the beginning I you know
09:13I I thought I could handle a lot of
09:15different things and I really couldn't
09:16and it's hard to show I think that
09:17there's some you know you have to really
09:19humble yourself to understanding what
09:20you're good and good at not um and what
09:23I like to do and how I was able to
09:25create content even back then and even
09:28today was just you know wrri WR stuff
09:29out writing ideas constantly writing
09:31ideas I mean that now I have the app you
09:34know the app on my phone and even my
09:35notepad my notes on my phone I'm
09:37thinking of ideas and writing stuff down
09:39and then I mean I never nothing is ever
09:40a bad look at nothing is ever being a
09:42bad idea and then you bring it back you
09:44look at it okay where do you look
09:46where's like the you know the the red
09:48yellow green of what you think could
09:50possibly happen and then you start
09:51working on those things um and it really
09:54comes down to just how serious that
09:56you're willing to take it and when it
09:58became with writing I a new book coming
10:00out in uh in uh the end of May which is
10:02my eth book and we'll be doing a lot of
10:05more podcast stuff for the book as well
10:07and it deals with people who have
10:09Alzheimer's disease and I interviewed I
10:12know six seven dozen different people
10:14across the country who have young onset
10:16dementia which is 65 under 65 so people
10:18in their 50s 60s some in their 40s I'll
10:21be 45 in a couple weeks so it's very
10:24scary but um and the Care Partners me
10:26the people that take care of them and so
10:29I was always so with them I had to
10:32really look at okay I need to make sure
10:34that I'm getting their background
10:36correct I got to make sure that I have
10:38notes down here I was I had to make sure
10:39I the WR recording stuff the microphone
10:41which you know Kate and Caroline did
10:43point out was not working very well
10:44before we signed on so I apologize but
10:46little Tech issues I just got a new one
10:48but um you know little things like that
10:51you know so it's and you know I I did
10:53also put a put a lot of in um time into
10:57connecting with people you know that's
11:00just about helping to get them helping
11:01to get the word out and um you know
11:04really looking at the genre and this is
11:06for everybody in podcasting whether in
11:08sports Health comedy whatever it may be
11:11you know there's a world in that a
11:14culture within that world and the best
11:17people out there whether you never heard
11:18of them before until you found them I
11:20mean they're killing it because they
11:22basically focused and said this is my
11:24swimline you know this is they have
11:25comedians have other comedians on which
11:27I love you know you're having Sports
11:29will talk to all different kinds of
11:31people and those allow for more
11:33opportunities so I was always reaching
11:34out to other people and seeing if they
11:36would want to be a part of something
11:38getting their input and really that's a
11:40big part of it as well um there really
11:42is no identity day of what to do um and
11:46it's also just about managing the
11:47business sides of everything I will say
11:50that one of the biggest things that I
11:52don't think people touch on is that
11:55there is this business structure to
11:57doing artwork and I consider this art I
11:59mean literary whether it's painting
12:01singing Whatever it is and when I was in
12:03art school like people didn't it was
12:04almost like this they were like two
12:06separate worlds it was like I you know
12:07I'm an artist so I'm never going to do
12:08anything with business and things like
12:09that it's like this naive that just is
12:12not true it's not I mean you it's not
12:13like I need to sit there and count money
12:15all day but it's like business in the
12:16aspect of okay where do I want to be and
12:18what do I want to do what I have to do
12:19to get there there's the marketing part
12:21Communications part the business part so
12:24I do really focus on what it takes to
12:27get to that level and and it's not
12:30always the same but you know you have to
12:33realize that people are are watching you
12:36listening to you and they're only going
12:38to take you as serious as you take
12:39yourself so there's a lot of this like
12:42this again this like casualness of like
12:44yeah I'm just going to like sit in my
12:45bed or I'm on a couch or I'm just going
12:47to like hang out and talk and that's
12:48that's totally fine but you want to
12:50dress things up a little bit you know
12:52you just got to take there's nothing
12:53wrong with taking it seriously if you
12:55want to be serious with it um nothing
12:57against the people that are sitting on
12:59like couches in their beds it's a good
13:00stick I get it but it's just a matter of
13:03making sure that it is constant you know
13:06it's not just some random thing I I will
13:08say the more unique that these people
13:10that people have come up with different
13:11ideas um you know I was watching one and
13:14you know there was a guy does something
13:16like a library and it was comedy thing I
13:19thought was hilarious and he like
13:20Whispers And there's another person that
13:22does stuff in their car there person
13:23that does it on Horseback and it's just
13:25whatever it may be right and it's just
13:27hilarious but it's it's good and but it
13:30takes a while to get that like that into
13:32it you know you have to like build to
13:34get to where how simple it may appear
13:36online takes a lot of time to
13:42develop so many good points there I
13:45especially appreciate the part about
13:47like how interdisciplinary jobs are and
13:49how you do have to be skilled in a lot
13:51of areas and um when you sometimes in
13:54college you get really like you're just
13:55thinking about you're you're in a major
13:57but like Majors don't just trans 100% to
14:00to jobs you have to do different things
14:02as Kate and I was talking about like we
14:04feel like we're project managers we we
14:06feel like we're marketers like we don't
14:08have degrees in any of those things but
14:10we do have to do that all the time well
14:13I also think that it's good to have it
14:15it's good to like diversify your network
14:17and Wells because like even before I
14:19mentioned like yeah my my microphone I'm
14:20having is driving me nuts I'm having
14:22problems with it like I said I wish I
14:23had a tech guy that just sat next to me
14:26all day long and fixed everything and I
14:29don't have that but I wish I had
14:31somebody I could call me hey man look I
14:32need like five minutes of your time I'm
14:34having trouble with it but there are
14:36people out there right now that do that
14:38and I think that by having people you
14:40know on your you know in your world it's
14:43almost like um you know like whenever
14:44when you start when you buy a home for
14:45the first time you know you need a
14:46plumber you need a painter you need a a
14:48person for the lawn electrician
14:51electrician like when that goes down
14:53okay I'm gonna call Kate I'm gonna call
14:54Jim I'm gonna call Caroline like and you
14:57may not use them all the time but
14:58they're on there and that stuff that you
15:00don't have to do are not really good at
15:01it so I do think that that's a big part
15:04well great um so what are some ways
15:08students can prepare for their future
15:10careers in podcasting if they're going
15:12to get into this well I think that one
15:14is that you know first of all it doesn't
15:18cost a lot to get into it um I mean I
15:20was helping a friend of mine who runs a
15:22um a therapy group and a therapy center
15:25and you know he's like look I looked
15:27online I'm seeing camera and I'm seeing
15:29lights and audio and it really and again
15:32I'm not doing the best example since I
15:33said my sound doesn't work very well
15:34today but um you know I had I went out
15:37and I got the you know I got the um the
15:41cushions that it took for the the sound
15:43the sound barriers right and you can put
15:45them up I mean when you're looking at a
15:47podcast you're looking at this Vision
15:48right here and there's a lot of other
15:51stuff that can go in the background so I
15:52have lighting over here and a simple my
15:55dog in the background but a simple um
15:58little a YouTube tutorial will tell you
16:00everything you need you know Amazon get
16:02a microphone right try it out um you
16:05know the different soundproof stuff
16:07again it's stuff you can find over like
16:08Michaels or on Amazon I mean there's
16:10really it's endless um so it's it's a
16:13but it is about taking that that part
16:17serious seriously I mean there are times
16:19when you'll see people that if the sound
16:21in the video looks good the content may
16:24not be great but the vid but it looks
16:26good it's working it's it's doing the
16:29that to me it just elevates everything
16:31you know you could have you could be
16:33interviewing the president but you're
16:35sounding echoey or it sound like you're
16:37in you know the basement somewhere um so
16:40the sound quality again all the stuff is
16:42super easy to do and once you get these
16:44things organized you're done that's it
16:45that's really the only investment you
16:46have to do for it um and then it's about
16:49finding your Niche like what do you want
16:51to do and um there that's I think to me
16:55is probably the most fun part of it
16:56because it's easy you know find
16:57something you like to talk talk about or
17:00you want to showcase and then start
17:03mapping out what you want to do I mean
17:06that's that's really it I mean it's you
17:08know this is everybody with a microphone
17:11can start a YouTube channel they can
17:15start a social media account they could
17:17you know there's all these softwares out
17:19there that are either free or like or
17:22almost free that you sign up for and use
17:24and help out and now it's just about you
17:26just figuring it out yourself um
17:29and that's that's really that's
17:30basically it you know what do you like
17:32to do what do you think people are going
17:33to care about talking about um I think
17:35that secondary to that is this image
17:37that people uh promote too you know I
17:40think that you know look at canva you go
17:42on canva right like I was a graph
17:43designer cana's eliminated that role I
17:46mean I I even use canva nowadays it's
17:48fantastic I mean you can have your logo
17:50you can have a website you can have you
17:52know station whatever you want all done
17:53with you in 10 minutes and um you just
17:57got to really look at your brain brand
17:59and you have The Branding part to me is
18:01crucial it's it's about what do you want
18:04people to see when and when they come
18:06across you you know and they want they
18:09want to be able to see that consistency
18:10with it and then it's about just
18:12following that following that um
18:14community and seeing how you can find
18:17your Niche to get into
18:21it thank you also I just thought I would
18:24um take that and run with it and just
18:26tell students on here that we're going
18:28to have an introduction to canva
18:30Workshop uh on April 12th from 1 to 2:30
18:35we have a grad a PhD student who teaches
18:38um introductory Concepts to using canva
18:41so it's unbelievable I mean look they're
18:43not paying me to I I think it's
18:44fantastic it's I use it all the time and
18:46it's it just it's for me to design that
18:49myself an illustrator or something like
18:51that would just take forever so um you
18:54know but anyway yeah know I know we we
18:57talk about LinkedIn the time we don't
18:59get paid by LinkedIn either although I
19:01think all right this is my last question
19:03and we're gonna then open it up to
19:04student questions um so what are the
19:07best parts of working in this field and
19:09what are some of the
19:10challenges um well I will say the best
19:14well uh okay so the best part is really
19:16it's just it's it's your passion you
19:18know I mean I loved comedy growing up
19:19and I loved when I got the job as modern
19:22manners guy um you know I was like you
19:25know I'm not really an an etiquette guy
19:27but it was more about my personality
19:28allowed me to shine out and you know I
19:30when I became a pro wrestler I mean look
19:32I'm a 5 fo5 guy from Baltimore I mean
19:34like I don't look the part and but pro
19:37wrestling was a fantastic thing it
19:38changed my entire life it brought me out
19:40of a you know I was already kind of an
19:42extrovert but changed everything about
19:44that willing that I could if I had this
19:46guy was 300 lbs it was standing on my
19:48thrd I'm like I can do anything now so
19:50it was it it taught me that the world
19:52was wide open and that was way back I
19:53mean so there are uh but it allowed that
19:57different parts aboutum trying stuff out
20:00um and I definitely see the parallel
20:02between what it was art with wrestling
20:04with literature and podcasting things
20:05like that it is about the creativity
20:07part so it has a good Outlet um also the
20:11best part is really meeting people when
20:13I when I was doing the podcast for
20:15modern maners guy first it was just me
20:17talking but I would also you know I'd
20:19say oh I spoke with my friend Kate and
20:20Kate said that the person sitting next
20:22to her in the movie theater was you know
20:24talking on whatever it may be right and
20:26it was a real person because I would get
20:27emails from all over the world about
20:29people saying the rudest thing I saw
20:31today was blank I'm like oh it's great
20:33you know I might use a different name
20:34but the story was the same um and I
20:36loved it so that was always really good
20:38to hear um and then in the same sense
20:41when I was doing for brand new sports
20:43when we were interviewing some athletes
20:44and stuff like that I just love hearing
20:46people's stories and I was fascinated
20:48how people be be able to um came up and
20:52found something new that they were doing
20:53or why they came why they came to love a
20:55sport um when I started when I continue
20:57with modern maners guy later on recently
21:00I was interviewing other people to find
21:02out what they thought was why what in
21:05their industry what they thought was
21:06rude there was a guy that I met I follow
21:08him on Instagram it's called his name is
21:10Trev chz he's a guy who lives in San
21:12Francisco where he lives like up in
21:14Northern California but he always goes
21:15to the Giants games and his thing is he
21:17chirps in the background in the in the
21:19Outfield so what he does is he basically
21:21make he'll say something really funny to
21:23the outfielder and he yells his name he
21:25always got these sayings and they're
21:27kind of like Dad jokes in a way and it's
21:29hilarious and it's all meant for good
21:31for nothing very like V it's nothing
21:33vile or anything like that but I was
21:35like man that guy's like so funny but I
21:36know these people probably thinking he
21:37might be rude so I interview I reached
21:39out say hey look I get this podcast um I
21:42love talk to you about is it rude to
21:45make fun of like to chirp in at
21:47professional athlet like oh absolutely
21:49man we talked for like an hour it was
21:50fantastic you know and then I was other
21:52person I reached out to she's a she was
21:54doing a um you know a a um relationship
21:57column and you know oh it's great you
22:00know she's funny let's Groll Let's do
22:01let's try that and then when I was so
22:03and now as I'm preparing for my book to
22:05come out in the at the end of May is
22:08when I was interviewing people for the
22:10book and I was you know it got really it
22:13it was the best part was the connection
22:15I was able to make with them it became
22:17very emotional here I'm listening to
22:18people's true stories about loved ones
22:20that they lost and uh spouses and
22:23children and you know parents and it was
22:25um you know IED to turn on a different
22:27hat to wear that but it was still part
22:28of what I enjoyed doing I love hearing
22:30people's stories I love talking about it
22:33and um so that was something that's that
22:36hands down is the best part um the
22:38negative part is you know one part is
22:41just like really getting out there and
22:44people are so focused with numbers I
22:48unfortunately social media following is
22:51a form of currency it gets you different
22:53places it gets you opportunities it
22:55takes makes you serious and um that's
22:58how people really judge stuff I mean
23:00it's just unfort it's again fortunate or
23:03unfortunate depend how you look at it
23:04but it is a sign of success it is you
23:07know if you get people to follow you
23:09that means you're doing something right
23:10or people are interested so that and
23:13that's not an overnight success I think
23:14there are ways to get very quick very
23:16quick success with it but not
23:18necessarily overnight success um and
23:22then again it's also about the the the
23:25the difficult part which depends how you
23:27look at is really just the extra work
23:29that you have to put in there maybe you
23:30didn't think about you know and The
23:32Branding part being on different social
23:34media formats um constantly learning
23:37about different things that that are
23:38going to make the the show better also
23:41your work better too and that comes from
23:44again just meeting different people and
23:45talking folks um but honestly it's you
23:49know if you get a chance to connect with
23:50people and it's through something that
23:51you like and having a conversation
23:52there's really nothing better than
23:56that awesome stories thanks for sharing
23:58and actually that's the last that was
24:00the last of my questions and Kate has
24:02some student questions ready for you so
24:03I'm going to pass the Von on to her all
24:06right thank you so much yes and for
24:08students please feel free to continue to
24:10submit them to me um again either to me
24:12personally or you can send them to
24:13everyone um I think I'm going to go with
24:15this first question because I think it's
24:17kind of ties in nicely um to some of the
24:20things you were just saying um Richie
24:21you juggle so many different projects
24:23and companies and and all of this could
24:26you speak a little bit about burnout um
24:28and any strategies for preventing or
24:29overcoming burnout if you are juggling
24:32all of these different types of projects
24:34yeah get a dog I mean my guy sits with
24:36me every day and it's the best form of
24:40therapy you could ever ask for that to
24:41me is but aside from that um yeah I mean
24:45look burnout burnout is just a part of
24:46life I mean I think that's really what
24:47it is it's just not uh there's really no
24:49there's really no quick answer for it
24:51you know I have a family and a mortgage
24:54and I have cars and you know work and
24:57stuff like that so and kids in private
24:59school get one getting ready for college
25:01eventually so it's like you know all
25:02these kinds of things are you know are
25:04very stressful and a lot of burnout but
25:06um you know it's I I think that it's
25:10really about what do you really want and
25:12if you want to do it like it's like
25:14getting in shape you know I wish I had a
25:16six-pack and you know to bench 300 again
25:19but it's not going to happen but if I
25:20wanted to I probably could start working
25:21out more and then you know get and get
25:24ripped but it's not it's just I don't
25:25really have the I don't have the need I
25:27don't have the desire for that right now
25:28now but if I did it wouldn't be a
25:31burnout because i''d be putting more
25:32effort into it so I think the problem is
25:34that when you just try to do too much
25:37and I'm guilty of this Beyond is like
25:39when you try to do too much all the time
25:42it just starts to it starts to interfere
25:45with everything else I mean it's almost
25:47like if you imagine like you know say
25:48you're doing like three different things
25:50and you and two three glasses sitting in
25:51front of you you pour one cup of water
25:54one cup and you're dividing into each
25:56one trying to fill it up if you took one
25:58away You're easily going to get more
25:59water more in more in those other two
26:02cups than we did with having three and
26:04obviously you take the others away and
26:06just one you can fill the cup up all the
26:07way so I look at it as is is that's how
26:10I that's how I look at I mean and
26:12honestly you just make a calendar I mean
26:14there's a lot of distractions coming on
26:17and you know I I make a I do it every
26:19day I'm like okay from you know I wake
26:21up early but that's just me but you know
26:23let's say it's 7 to 8 I'm going to do
26:24this and that's it nothing else I'm not
26:27going to look at my phone I'm not going
26:28to check social media I'm not going to
26:30listen to something else I'm just doing
26:32this and then you take a step and then
26:34next you know something else what's
26:35going on from 930 to 10:30 okay I'm
26:37going to do this and that's it and if
26:39you can't do that if you find yourself
26:41or like if you have time and you decide
26:43you can't do that that just means you
26:44don't really want to do it and again
26:46guilty I've done this before too and I
26:48have to remind myself that you know look
26:50I deadlines with my book and there were
26:52times when writing it just got too
26:54emotional and also just writing it
26:56TimeWise like I needed a certain
26:58environment to write in and I just
27:00wasn't feeling it that day but in the
27:01same sense you know if you don't work
27:03out you're not going to be healthy if
27:04you don't work on your crap you're not
27:06gonna be able to be successful in it so
27:10way those are wonderful tips thank you
27:13so much um I'm getting some more
27:14questions here so keep them coming thank
27:16you so much students um for this next
27:18one if you can um kind of go back a
27:20little bit to the uh when you talked
27:22about getting into the podcasting World
27:23initially I believe you said you had a
27:25connection I think it was through the
27:27book you had written um but question
27:29here you know again for someone with
27:31zero Connections in the podcasting World
27:34kind of any other tips for getting their
27:36foot in the door kind of building up
27:37those relevant skills that will really
27:39kind of help them take that first step
27:41yeah so actually no so so just to say
27:44about that I had no connections um the
27:46person that reached out to me reached
27:48out to me because I was already doing
27:50something else in entertainment I guess
27:53you would say between wrestling and then
27:55books and so that was something that
27:57they said okay your personality fits
27:59this job and I and so I got that format
28:05didn't there this it was up to me to do
28:07it it was a job I mean if I wasn't good
28:10at it I would gotten fired so it's not
28:11like that's that's just how I was
28:13working for somebody so I really was
28:16starting from scratch I didn't really I
28:17had an in of saying okay here's what
28:19your topic is but it was really up to me
28:21to to generate that and I was able to
28:23get a book deal from that because it
28:24started do really well and then but
28:26again even with that it was up to okay
28:27well what are you going to do to get get
28:28the book sold so you're always going to
28:30be having to prove different things um I
28:34will say regarding the um regarding like
28:37just starting from scratch that's
28:40finding first you got to figure out what
28:42you want to do I mean if you are a you
28:44know if you've never if you wanted to go
28:46into like a a cooking podcast you've
28:48never touched a skill in your life then
28:50you're pretty out of luck but then again
28:53then go start talking to some chefs I
28:54mean there's other ways to do it there's
28:57no way there's no reason no one has an
28:59excuse not to have the technology for it
29:02or the understanding of it because you
29:03can go on YouTube right now and see how
29:05to do it I mean I was I was trying to do
29:07it to fix my microphone before this call
29:08even so um it's that's and again this
29:12all this stuff is from Amazon okay you
29:15know you don't have to get the
29:16top-of-the line stuff to start out it
29:17can be cheap and then not cheap but just
29:19good enough and to get going and then
29:21invest in yourself to take care of there
29:23but um and then it's really about just
29:26getting out there and reaching out to
29:27other people everybody's in the same
29:29every all these podcasts look for people
29:30to talk to I mean there have they have
29:33the biggest ones have you know managers
29:35and producers that help them find people
29:37but there's no reason you can't find
29:39somebody else in your in a field you
29:41like to say hey can you mind me
29:42interviewing you for like 15 minutes
29:44great sure not a problem very rarely
29:46people gonna say no that's what I
29:48found yeah and that's a great connection
29:51actually to this next question um which
29:53is do you have any tips on how to be
29:55creative in choosing the topics and also
29:57how to present the podcast have you ever
29:59experienced creative block and if so how
30:01did you handle it so I think the one
30:03thing I'm seeing a lot with people today
30:06is that they try to be really outlandish
30:08and like wacky and loud and it it you
30:13know if if that's not your thing don't
30:15do it you know there's also like I mean
30:17when I was you know I when I was doing
30:19with modern maners guy I was dealing
30:20with satire I mean I was make I was not
30:23being rude about things but I knew how
30:25to I knew how to like you know deliver a
30:27joke and work and work in that world and
30:30make it funny but also polite and I
30:33guess you could say you know and
30:34something or it's enjoyable I would
30:35never like randomly call somebody
30:37something bad but I feel like a lot of
30:39people out there I blame Tik Tok for
30:41this they looking for this like wow
30:42shock factor of like I'm doing I'm G to
30:45get followers by doing X and I just I I
30:48mean look if you can't look at if you
30:49got to look back at that in 10 years and
30:51wondering what you did it's it's not
30:52going to work out really well so that's
30:54kind of how I look at that part um so
30:57but I think that that it's um you really
31:00I think if you do the good work it'll
31:01stand out I mean if you look at
31:03everybody knows the person that does the
31:05whole um you know I like your car what
31:08what do you do for a living that guy you
31:09know he's on Tik Tok and Instagram sure
31:11all I'm sure the students know who he is
31:13he goes up to people and says hey a nice
31:14car what do you do for a living and then
31:16this guy you know I he's a friend of a
31:19friend of mine but the stories that I've
31:21heard he basically just like he got so
31:23many people yelling at him like get the
31:24hell out of here like all this kind of
31:25stuff random eventually somebody people
32:28where is it where you going to find your
32:29best best fit I mean same thing with
32:31just everyday life at school that
32:34matter yeah that makes a lot of sense
32:37thank you for those tips this next
32:38question is Switching gears a little bit
32:40but I'm fascinated to hear this as well
32:42um how did you get into name image and
32:44likeness and athlete branding yeah so um
32:48the with brand new sports we right
32:51before the niil law was being passed I
32:53was meeting with some friends of mine
32:54who I they they've done one guy was
32:56actually from Maryland too but um you're
32:59very successful in marketing and
33:00Entrepreneurship and um we just started
33:02talking about you know I have an idea
33:04this nil thing is coming up and I really
33:06think it'd be interesting I have an idea
33:07for it and then uh one of the other guys
33:10and the three of us and one of the guys
33:11he had been in experimental marketing
33:13for 20 plus years meaning he would work
33:16with companies and Brands and saying
33:18okay we really want to do a fun event
33:19for opening day what are we going to do
33:22and then he would help plan it so he had
33:23a lot of the brand connections and then
33:26um the other person he had a little a
33:28real strong business ethic and back to
33:30it as well and then I was working with a
33:32lot of the marketing and design and you
33:34know being able to reach out to a
33:35different athletes and so forth so we
33:38kind of started bouncing ideas off it
33:40took a lot of drafts to get to the final
33:41version of it um and then we just
33:44started presenting it out to people and
33:45then I mean we hit a right a really good
33:47time we did a lot with Maryland people
33:49I'm even friends with a lot of the you
33:51know there's an athlete from Maryland
33:52that he left he was football player we
33:53became really good buddies just talked
33:55to him like two days ago actually he ask
33:56me about he was asking me about his
33:57current nil offerings um and we just you
34:00know we weren't Sports agents so we we
34:01were we were we were we worked in that
34:03we weren't like a sports agent we didn't
34:04own anybody we just basically worked as
34:08you know that like a toz and Amazon we
34:10were that Arrow right that connected the
34:12two and we played our space and was
34:14perfectly fine so um and then it just
34:16one thing after the next just start
34:20people I think that's a great example of
34:22how all of these different things can
34:24kind of just feed off of each other with
34:26uh with different ideas and different
34:27projects and you never know what's going
34:29to come from it so um I have one more
34:32question but again if students have kind
34:34of last minute things they want to throw
34:35to throw to me in the chat please do um
34:38but I really like this next one which is
34:40just you've you know you said when you
34:42first started out in
34:44podcasting it was nothing like it is now
34:46you've seen kind of how it's changed
34:48over the past several years do you have
34:50any kind of Future Vision for where
34:52podcasting is going to go from here I
34:55mean honestly I think that it's a
34:56stepping a huge stepping stone to um
34:59bigger forms of multimedia I mean a lot
35:01of and I'm look I'm a writer and you
35:03know my dream every day is to wake up in
35:05the morning write a book work on a book
35:08have it get sold to become a movie go to
35:10the movie or Premiere write another book
35:12get I mean like those things haven't
35:13happened in that in that yet I've gotten
35:15a little bit close to those but not in
35:17that world yet but um I look at at the
35:19end of the day the success of what
35:22podcasting is coming the world of media
35:23is going to open a ton of more doors and
35:24that's I just think that there's a
35:26direct parallel between you know person
35:29became successful talking to people
35:31about this they might get a TV show
35:32after it I think in the firms of media
35:35with streaming and stuff like that I
35:37mean you look at um um oh gosh what's
35:41the podcast with um oh God I forgot
35:46uh I forget I'm getting a brain my brain
35:49is looking but anyway like they were
35:50taking on tours and um um they were uh
35:55they were going from just talking in an
35:58to doing Arena uh doing like concert
36:01halls and um and so was that like J oh
36:06the one like Jason baitman and um SM
36:10yeah heart yes exactly smartless exact
36:12smartless they basically that granted
36:15they're yeah and I do too I can't forgot
36:16their name but granted they're super
36:18famous people already but there's a lot
36:20of super famous people that are doing
36:21podcast and no one listens to them um
36:24but they took it from basically um you
36:27know talking on Zoom during Co then they
36:29went in person and then next thing know
36:31they're doing a tour now G again these
36:32guys are A-list actors and have tons of
36:35money do whatever they do whatever they
36:37want to do but you you can't force
36:39people to come to the shows and force
36:41people to listen that's the part about
36:43this stuff is you can't buy listeners
36:45you can buy influence and you can buy
36:47marketing teams but you can't buy
36:49subscription people to say yes I'm to
36:51subscribe to that so to their credit
36:53they're doing fantastic Shannon Sharps
36:54got one got a couple of them I think
36:56he's hilarious and I mean I had no idea
36:58he was funny when he's a football player
36:59and played played for the Ravens too but
37:02you know it's just a different side to
37:03him and so it's it's really about that
37:06and a lot of opportunities have opened
37:07from other things um and and I will say
37:10that I look at I look at everything as a
37:12door opener that's just how it I mean
37:14I've never said no to a call I've never
37:16I begged for meetings before I keep
37:19asking until the people say no or yes
37:21but um you know it just it it o it opens
37:25you'd be surprised what can come your
37:27way and I think that's something that um
37:30I've really tried to do throughout my
37:32through everything I've done is just
37:34chasing that opportunity and if it
37:36doesn't work out fine but at least you
37:37had a conversation about at least you
37:39talked about it or researched it or
37:40thought about it or tried it and it
37:42didn't work out who cares you know
37:44that's that to me is I look at this I
37:47podcasting really opening up just a
37:49whole another world of from media stamp
37:53up but also even from a consumer rate of
37:55just you know apparel and merchandise
37:58and things like that you know there's
38:00people that are selling a ton of money
38:01right now ton of stuff on Etsy and
38:05printify and things like that um just
38:07from their own work so I think there's a
38:12there that's a good point that it's
38:14connecting to the larger media world and
38:16even retail world yeah um I did get one
38:19more question and it's a great one so I
38:20want to make sure we get to it um can
38:22you please walk us through your process
38:24of conceptualizing and planning podcast
38:28yeah so one thing I will say is that the
38:30biggest the biggest thing people want
38:31for podcast is is regularity they want
38:34to know that you know and I I'm guilty
38:37of this too you know we were doing stuff
38:38and it wasn't always hitting constantly
38:41I mean with with modern manners guy I
38:42was I had a I was being paid to do a
38:45weekly thing so I knew what I had to do
38:47on this day to submit it to get it back
38:49and to do it but from there I knew what
38:51I was doing a month ahead of time so I
38:53already had stuff coming in so you have
38:55and I'm sorry coming in the fact that I
38:56was planning it so you have to really
38:58stay to that schedule and like I was
39:01telling somebody the other day and I'm
39:03doing this right so I'm doing this with
39:04my book right now like we have a social
39:05media account my book is called the
39:07optimistics and um we have a social
39:10media we have Instagram and Twitter says
39:12we are opt we are opt we are optimistics
39:14that's the name of it because apparently
39:16somebody already took the optimistics
39:17although I've never heard of the term
39:18before my guys had done the book but
39:20anyway so um but you know we we'll do we
39:24already I already have a social media
39:25calendar of stuff that I want to put
39:27together for it and the same sense the
39:29podcast like you know if you let's say
39:31you want to launch on like today you
39:3529th people want to know you're going to
39:37have something coming back up on
39:38Wednesday or next Friday or next Tuesday
39:41so start to really get that so when you
39:44do go live you already have a couple
39:47things to buy you some more time that
39:50and that that to me I think looks the
39:52most professional that way you're not
39:54catching up you're already ahead of it
39:55and if you're already plan doing anyway
39:57too just give yourself a little bit
39:59longer to officially launch kind of
40:00thing and then just a matter of chopping
40:02it up to make sure that you know I know
40:05that I got to post this at this time
40:07this at this time and stay on that that
40:09regular pattern and I think that's
40:12really the best way to kind of to to
40:14work at that planning part of it but
40:16again it goes back to the business part
40:17I mean look at yourself as your own
40:19company in a way you are an Entertainer
40:22and you need a producer and you need a
40:24staff writer all like imagine a big show
40:26but you're shrinking it down doing all
40:27these things yourself but okay from from
40:29an Entertainer side what am I doing well
40:31okay I'm going to make sure my sound is
40:32right I'm going to make sure that I have
40:33good lines to say and things like that
40:35you know but from a SK from a producer
40:37standpoint okay who am I going to have
40:39if I'm going on Tuesday that means I
40:40have to have this thing done by Friday
40:43so I can edit on Saturday so I can make
40:46sure it works well and push it out so it
40:48goes live on Monday that kind of thing
40:50so that part is just a big part of
40:52really give you know building up your
40:54Rapport and building up a a positive
41:01public I think that was really helpful
41:03how you described your staff of four or
41:05five people it's you um that you're
41:07putting on those different hats of those
41:09different jobs but that's what I mean
41:11you know you look at the bigger podcast
41:13like um you know uh like a lot of the
41:16comedians have one or Sports guys I mean
41:18they have a people I mean look when
41:20you're getting ads your way you got a
41:21lot of money even like the Kelsey
41:22Brothers like I love their stuff but you
41:25know they're not even in the same room
41:28but it looks like it they the sound is
41:30great the editing is fantastic they and
41:32you you hear him a couple times like
41:34yeah I think Rachel's going to do
41:35whatever the person's name is on the
41:36side like somebody helps them do stuff
41:38and find stuff but so granted they can
41:41afford that engine um but that'll come
41:45if you do really well from the beginning
41:47and then start to bring somebody else on
41:48and I will say that there's a lot of
41:49other people out there that are trying
41:51to do things in this world that don't
41:54want the they may not want to be the
41:55face of it but they're really good at
41:57Tech they're really good at organizing
41:59or they just want to be a part of
42:00something that maybe something so you'd
42:03be surprised that you can find these how
42:05easy it is to find those people that are
42:06willing to do their part for the same
42:08passion of fun that you're doing and
42:10hopefully you know make a couple bucks
42:12down the road or something like that if
42:13that's your goal I don't
42:14know yeah partner up with another
42:16student who's interested in more of the
42:19yeah the background things right yeah I
42:21that's that to me right now I mean I I I
42:24think that career in media right now is
42:26probably going to be the biggest thing
42:27to hit for the next you know 5 to 10
42:29years and this the idea of being able to
42:32help people connect like this the sound
42:34the the design the editing you know that
42:37to me was a very far-fetched idea to
42:39even try to enter before but now it's so
42:42accessible and so important for
42:44everybody every company in every company
42:46out there has somebody that needs a
42:48presentation machine behind them whether
42:50you're a you know tech company a you
42:53know a retail company or a lawyer for
42:55whatever it is people are doing stuff
42:58that's so true communication is in every
43:00career field right so there you go big
43:02plug for the communication Department
43:05yes they are in our College I know I
43:10agree H well that's the last um question
43:13I have from the students so I'm GNA turn
43:14it back over to Caroline to wrap us up
43:17thanks Richie yeah thank
43:22you um thanks and actually uh as I'm
43:25sharing I can make this bigger um this
43:28last two slides here because I'm going
43:29to share some resources that students
43:31might be interested in but I one just
43:34came to me as you were talking and so
43:36our students um you if you're an arbe
43:39major you should be getting a
43:41an is it that's maybe like twice a month
43:44newsletter called arue matters and in
43:47that newsletter there's a section about
43:51podcasts that Rue people in the Rue
43:54Community like professors mostly but I
43:57don't know some might be graduate
43:58students or undergrad students or I
44:00don't know exactly what the criteria is
44:02but someone in arue doing podcasts so if
44:05you pay attention to that maybe you
44:07could maybe you could approach some of
44:08those people and ask if they need help
44:11producing editing writing etc for their
44:15Dean um the dean of our college has her
44:18podcast um so everyone
44:22has okay but the other things that I had
44:25on the slide I wanted to share is is
44:27that we also have a a tool called The
44:29Vault and they have Insider guides and I
44:32just put a couple um titles here but
44:34they have hundreds and U there was one
44:36on like communication and radio and
44:38branding Imaging and marketing
44:40Consulting uh we also have we do these
44:42chats fairly regularly we have a nice
44:45library builtup of um past chats that we
44:48can share if you just reach out to Kate
44:50or myself through email asking to get
44:52the links um so I just threw up some
44:54there that I felt were kind of
44:55tendentially like in this Arena like
44:58we've went on entertainment on
45:00advertising on freelancing but really
45:02we've got a lot uh at this point and
45:05then uh just a reminder if you want to
45:07talk more about your career paths you
45:10know make an appointment with Kate and
45:12myself um you can do that through
45:14handshake um and check out more
45:15resources on the career center
45:18website and sign up for the career
45:21center newsletter follow the on social
45:24media as we were talking so much about
45:25the importance of follows um and check
45:27out the calendar of events for more
45:29events like this one um so that's all I
45:31just wanted you know students were
45:32always asking you know how do I find out
45:35about these things um uh and so then I'm
45:39just gonna just say I guess everyone we
45:41can say thank you oh and I see Richie
45:43put some in the chat okay so it's his
45:45his social yeah so you can reach out to
45:48me and then somebody did put in uh