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Tucker Carlson2024-02-08
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In the YouTube video, the interviewer conducts an interview with the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, primarily about the war in Ukraine, its origins, current status, and potential resolution. Putin expresses his belief in Russia's historic claim to parts of Western Ukraine and provides a detailed historical background to support his viewpoint. The interview lasts for over 2 hours and is presented as a sincere expression of Putin's beliefs. The video discusses the historical and territorial complexities of Ukraine, including its formation as an artificial state and the inclusion of diverse lands under Soviet rule. It also touches on the potential territorial claims of neighboring countries like Hungary. The speaker highlights the intricate and contentious nature of Ukraine's borders and history. In this video, Vladimir Putin discusses the historical and geopolitical factors that have shaped Russia's relationship with Ukraine and the West, emphasizing Russia's perceived grievances and the failure of the West to honor commitments made after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Putin also highlights Russia's concerns about NATO expansion and its view of Ukraine as part of its historical and cultural sphere of influence. In the interview, Vladimir Putin discusses various issues including Russia's relationship with the West, the US involvement in Ukraine and the Caucasus, and NATO's expansion to the east, highlighting instances where Russia felt rebuffed or disregarded by the West. He also mentions a proposal for joint missile defense with the US and Europe, which was declined, leading to Russia's development of hypersonic systems. In the video, Vladimir Putin discusses the events that led to the conflict in Ukraine, including the coup, Western involvement, and the annexation of Crimea by Russia. He criticizes the US and its allies for their role in the situation, and emphasizes that the conflict could have been avoided through legal and non-violent means. Putin also mentions the agreement between the Ukrainian government and the opposition, which was disregarded, leading to a miscalculation with severe consequences. In the interview, Russian President Vladimir Putin discusses Ukraine, NATO's expansion, the Minsk agreements, and the issue of neo-Nazism in Ukraine, expressing concerns about Ukraine's refusal to implement the Minsk agreements and its glorification of nationalist figures associated with collaboration with Hitler. Putin asserts the need for denazification in Ukraine and criticizes the support of such ideologies by the Ukrainian leadership. In the interview with Vladimir Putin, he discusses negotiations with Ukraine, the ban on negotiating with Russia by the Ukrainian president, and the issue of US involvement in the conflict. Putin dismisses the idea of a Russian invasion of Poland and emphasizes the need for dialogue and respect for Russia's interests to find a rational solution. He also denies involvement in the Nord Stream explosion and challenges the CIA to provide evidence of NATO or CIA involvement. In the interview, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev discusses the alleged sabotage of Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea, attributing it to "industrial terrorism" and emphasizing the control of the United States over global media. He also criticizes the US for using the dollar as a tool of political struggle and suggests that the US is damaging its own economy and global power. Medvedev downplays concerns about Chinese dominance over the BRICS countries, stating that Russia and China are neighbors and cannot choose their neighbors. Vladimir Putin discusses Russia's history of coexistence with China, the growth of Chinese-European cooperation, and the negative impact of U.S. sanctions on Russia. He also addresses the potential for change in U.S. policy towards Russia and the complex power dynamics within the United States. In the interview, former Russian president Medvedev discusses the need for fresh leadership and a change in approach to global developments, including the shifting position of the United States. He also criticizes Ukraine's actions and its relationship with the West, while emphasizing Russia's Orthodox Christian identity and its historical connection to Ukraine. In the YouTube video, Russian President Vladimir Putin discusses Russia's relationship with religion, the conflict in Ukraine, Russian culture and values, the future of AI and genetics, and the imprisonment of American journalist Evan Gershkovich. Putin emphasizes the importance of finding common ground and reaching international agreements on key issues facing humanity. He also acknowledges the possibility of releasing Gershkovich in exchange for reciprocal steps from the US. In the video, Russian President Vladimir Putin discusses the case of Trevor Reed, an American citizen imprisoned in Russia for espionage. Putin asserts that Reed was caught red-handed receiving classified information covertly, and suggests that an agreement between special services could lead to Reed's return to the US. Additionally, Putin comments on the situation in Ukraine and expresses willingness to negotiate for a settlement. Russian President Vladimir Putin discusses the situation in Ukraine, stating that it is a subject for negotiations and that unity between the Russian and Ukrainian peoples will eventually be rebuilt. He gives examples of Ukrainian soldiers identifying as Russian and believes that the unity is still there. Putin also mentions the Ukrainian Orthodox church as a unifying factor. Finally, he emphasizes the importance of free speech and the inversion of virtue in societies.

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📊 Transcript
The interview with Vladimir Putin primarily focuses on the war in Ukraine, its history, and Russia's perspective.
00:00
Putin provided a historical background of Russia's claim to parts of Western Ukraine, citing events dating back to the 9th century.
He emphasized the historical and cultural ties between Russia and Ukraine, mentioning the baptism of Russia and the centralized Russian state.
The interviewer asks Putin why he believes the United States might strike Russia out of the blue.
02:25
Putin starts by giving a historical reference, stating that Ukraine's relationship with Russia started from the 9th century.
He mentions the influence of Poland and Lithuania, their oppression of Russian lands, and the people's appeal to Moscow for support.
In 1654, the Russian assembly decided to include a part of the old Russian lands into the Moscow Kingdom, leading to a war with Poland that lasted 13 years.
Background on the territorial changes in Ukraine and Poland
10:00
In 1654, a peace treaty called Eternal peace was signed, giving the Left Bank of Neer including Kiev to Russia and the Right Bank of Nipper to Poland.
Before World War I, the Austrian general staff promoted the idea of Ukrainian independence to weaken their potential enemy, Poland.
After the 1917 Revolution, Russia reclaimed all of its historical lands, including in the South and West.
Poland's collaboration with Hitler and the start of World War II
12:00
Poland collaborated with Hitler in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia.
Hitler offered Poland peace and a treaty of friendship in return for the Danzig corridor, but Poland refused.
The war started on September 1st, 1939, with Hitler attacking Poland due to its uncompromising stance.
Territorial changes after World War II
14:00
Poland received Western lands, including access to the Baltic Sea and the city of Danzig, as compensation.
USSR regained historical lands, including part of Ukraine, after World War II.
Stalin insisted that the Soviet republics, including Ukraine, be included in the USSR as autonomous entities.
Creation of Soviet Ukraine and territorial changes
17:00
Lenin established Soviet Ukraine and assigned it lands, including the Black Sea region, which had no historical connection to Ukraine.
After World War II, Soviet Ukraine received lands that had belonged to Poland, Hungary, and Romania, shaping it into an artificial state.
Discussion on Ukraine's borders and potential claims from other nations
20:00
Putin suggests that due to Stalin's regime, other nations could claim back their lands from Ukraine, although they have no right to do so.
Putin acknowledges that Hungarians who live in Ukraine may want to get back their historical land.
Putin shares a personal story of visiting Kiev and the Western part of Ukraine in the early 80s.
During the Soviet time in the 1980s, the Hungarian community in Ukraine preserved their language, names, and national costumes, expressing their identity and connection to Hungary.
21:00
In the town of Bavo, all the names of towns and villages were in Russian and Hungarian, not Ukrainian.
The men in the village were Hungarians who lived there and preserved their language and culture.
Many nations, including Hungarians and Transylvanians, feel frustrated by the redrawn borders of the 20th century wars.
The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 was initiated by the Russian leadership, who believed in commonalities with Ukraine and expected cooperation from the West. However, NATO's expansion and the West's support for Serbia strained relations.
23:00
Russian leadership believed in the common language, family ties, culture, history, and faith between Russia and Ukraine.
They expected the West, including the United States, to cooperate after the Soviet Union's collapse.
NATO expanded despite Russia's objections and offers to negotiate.
The West's support for Serbia in the Yugoslavia conflict, despite Russia's support for the Serbs, strained relations.
The United States led the bombing of Belgrade, leading to Russia's protest against the violation of international law.
Russia's president at the time, Yeltsin, tried to restore relations with the West after the Yugoslav issue, but faced resistance and accusations. The West's fear of a strong China and Russia's disappointment in not being welcomed into the 'civilized family of nations' also affected their relations.
27:00
The West fears a strong China more than a strong Russia due to China's large population and growing economy.
Russia expected to be welcomed into the civilized family of nations after 1991, but the promise of NATO not expanding eastward was broken.
Yeltsin's attempts to restore relations with the West were met with resistance and accusations.
The West's support for Serbia in the Yugoslavia conflict further strained relations, leading to Russia's protest against the violation of international law.
Russia felt disappointed in not being welcomed as they had expected after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Putin asked Clinton if Russia could join NATO, and Clinton said it was not possible.
31:00
Putin asked Clinton if Russia could join NATO, to which Clinton initially said he thought it was possible.
However, at dinner, Clinton said he had talked to his team and it was not possible.
Putin clarifies that he was sincere in his inquiry, and if the answer had been yes, the process of reproach would have commenced.
Putin believes the West rebuffed Russia due to their size and independent opinion.
33:00
Putin states that the negative response from the West is not due to bitterness, but rather a realization that Russia wasn't welcome.
He suggests building relations in another manner and working for common ground.
Putin believes the US exerts pressure in NATO, citing the example of Ukraine in 2008.
Putin accuses the US of supporting separatism and terrorism in the Caucasus despite his warnings.
35:00
Putin raised the issue with the US President and provided proof, but received no meaningful response.
The CIA's reply indicated they believed supporting the opposition in Russia was the right thing to do, which Putin found ridiculous.
The US and its satellites allegedly provided support to terrorist groups in the Caucasus.
Putin proposed joint missile defense with the US and Europe, but the US declined and proceeded unilaterally.
36:00
Putin suggested creating a missile defense system together with the US and Europe, but the US continued unilaterally despite claiming it was against missile threats from Iran.
US officials seemed interested but ultimately declined the proposal, leading Putin to warn of countermeasures.
Putin claims the US and other countries' support for NATO's expansion to the east, despite earlier promises not to expand.
History of Ukraine's relationship with Russia and the West
40:00
Ukraine has historically had strong ties with Russia, with a significant portion of the population having connections to Russia.
After gaining independence, Ukraine declared itself a neutral state, but in 2008, the doors to NATO were opened to Ukraine, which was not in line with agreements.
The US supported the opposition when Victor Yanukovich won the elections, leading to the organization of a third round not provided for in the constitution.
The issue of association with the EU caused problems for Ukraine, as it would have to open its borders, affecting its trade and economic cooperation with Russia.
Events leading to the conflict in Ukraine
42:00
Victor Yanukovich's hesitation to sign the Association Treaty with the EU led to destructive actions by the opposition, supported by the West.
The US asked Yanukovich to calm down the opposition and agreed to a political settlement, but the armed opposition still committed a coup.
The US political leadership pushed Russia to a line it could not cross, citing concern over the situation and the support for Russian-speaking people in the face of the war machine.
Conflict in Ukraine
47:00
In 2014, there was a coup in Ukraine, which led to the persecution of those who did not accept the coup.
Russia took Crimea under its protection due to the threat created by the coup.
Aircraft and artillery were used against civilians in Donetsk, and there were ongoing military operations, coinciding with the opening of NATO's doors for Ukraine.
The conflict in Ukraine was provoked by the coup and the lack of support for the peaceful settlement agreement by European guarantors and the US.
Reason for Russian intervention
48:00
The coup in Ukraine was the initial trigger for the conflict, as it was supported by Western countries despite an agreement for a peaceful settlement.
The political mistake of the CIA and US leadership was their support for the coup, which could have been handled legally without bloodshed or loss of Crimea.
Russia agreed that its borders would be along the borders of former Soviet republics, but the developments on Maidan, including bloody events, forced them to intervene.
Russia is concerned about NATO's expansion and Ukraine's potential accession to NATO.
50:00
Russia did not agree to NATO's expansion, especially regarding Ukraine.
The current Ukrainian leadership has declared that they do not intend to implement the Minsk agreements for peaceful settlement in Donbas.
Former leaders of Germany and France admitted they signed the Minsk agreements without intending to implement them.
Russia repeatedly asked the US and European countries to stop militarizing Ukraine with NATO forces and to implement the Minsk agreements.
Russia claims it did not start the war in 2014 and aims to stop the war in 2022.
53:00
Russia believes the Ukrainian side started the war in 2014 and is now preparing for military action.
Russia's goal is to stop the war in 2022.
One of Russia's aims is the 'denazification' of Ukraine, referring to the prohibition of Neo-Nazi movements.
Putin accuses Ukraine of glorifying Nazi collaborators and promoting Nazi ideology.
55:00
Ukraine is accused of building its identity on false heroes who collaborated with Hitler.
Putin mentions the brutal massacre of Polish, Jewish, and Russian population by Hitler's collaborators in Ukraine.
Ukrainian nationalists who served in the SS troops and committed atrocities are being applauded and glorified in Ukraine.
Putin criticizes the President of Ukraine for applauding a man who served in the SS troops during World War II.
59:00
The man in question fought against the Russians, Poles, and Jews during World War II.
The Ukrainian President and the entire parliament of Canada applauded this man.
Putin emphasizes that the ideology of those who exterminated Jews and Russians is still being supported and preserved.
Putin's 'denazification' refers to getting rid of those who maintain and support Nazi ideology.
The President of Russia discusses the prohibition of neo-Nazism in Ukraine and the lack of peace talks.
01:01:00
During negotiations in Istanbul, it was agreed in writing that neo-Nazism would not be cultivated in Ukraine.
The President claims that Ukraine threw away agreements and obeyed instructions from Western countries to fight Russia.
Peace talks reached a high stage of coordination but were derailed after Ukraine withdrew its troops from Kiev.
The Ukrainian president signed a decree forbidding negotiations with Russia.
The President of Russia mentions his communication with Joe Biden and the issue of funding for the war in Ukraine.
01:03:00
The President claims to have spoken to Biden before the special military operation in Ukraine.
He expresses belief that supporting Ukraine against Russia is a historic mistake.
The interviewer asks about the last time the President spoke to Biden, to which he responds that they haven't spoken since before February 2022.
The President mentions his proposal to work together on a missile defense system.
He acknowledges that there are ongoing contacts with the US on the matter of stopping the fighting in Ukraine.
The President believes that calling Biden is pointless as long as weapons continue to be supplied to Ukraine.
The President of Russia denies the possibility of a global war and nuclear conflict, criticizes NATO's stance, and dismisses the idea of Russian troops invading Poland.
01:05:00
The President dismisses the idea of calling Biden to discuss the situation, as he believes the supply of weapons to Ukraine is the main issue.
He accuses NATO of trying to intimidate their own population with the imaginary Russian threat.
The interviewer mentions the concern about a Russian invasion of Poland, to which the President states that it would only happen if Poland attacks Russia, which he believes is unlikely.
The President emphasizes that getting involved in a global war goes against common sense and would bring humanity to the brink of destruction.
He believes that the idea of Russia using tactical nuclear weapons is a scare tactic to extort money from taxpayers in the confrontation with Ukraine.
The President of Russia addresses the topic of US soldiers fighting in Ukraine and emphasizes Russia's lack of interest in global conflict.
01:08:00
The President questions why American soldiers should fight in Ukraine, stating that there are mercenaries from the US, Poland, and Georgia there.
He warns that sending regular troops to Ukraine would bring humanity to the brink of serious global conflict.
The President suggests that the US should negotiate with Russia and respect its interests instead of fueling the conflict in Ukraine.
He denies the allegations of blowing up Nord Stream and dismisses the notion of having evidence that NATO or the CIA did it.
The biggest act of industrial terrorism occurred in the Baltic Sea, causing the largest CO2 emission in history.
01:12:00
The speaker suggests that the explosion in the Baltic Sea was the biggest act of industrial terrorism.
They imply that the United States and NATO may be involved, but it is difficult to present evidence and win a propaganda victory due to the control of world's media.
The Germans, despite being aware of their NATO partner's actions, are silent and their leadership is guided by the collective West's interests.
Germany's inaction in opening gas routes from Russia is questioned, as it affects their economy and competitiveness.
The world is currently divided into two hemispheres, but the speaker believes in a single whole world with shared security.
01:16:00
The speaker uses the analogy of the human brain being divided into two hemispheres, but it is still one head.
They advocate for a single whole world with shared security for stability and sustainability.
Using the US dollar as a tool of foreign policy is seen as a strategic mistake, as it has led to a decrease in its power and influence.
01:17:00
The speaker believes that using the US dollar as a tool of foreign policy is a strategic mistake that has decreased US power and influence.
Restrictive measures and sanctions have led to a decrease in countries' reliance on the US dollar.
Other countries, including oil producers, are considering accepting payments in Yuan instead of US dollars.
The speaker criticizes the decision to restrict Russian transactions in US dollars, suggesting it is foolish and damages the US economy.
The speaker dismisses the fear of China dominating the global economy, stating that Russia and China are neighbors and cannot choose their relatives.
01:21:00
The speaker views the fear of China dominating the global economy as a 'Boogyman' story.
They emphasize that Russia and China are neighbors and have a close relationship due to sharing a border.
The speaker does not seem worried about China dominating the global economy and dismisses it as a concern.
China's foreign policy is not aggressive and focuses on compromise and cooperation.
01:22:00
China's cooperation with Europe is increasing at a faster pace than its cooperation with Russia.
European countries are eager to access China's market despite facing economic problems.
Political decisions in the United States are limiting cooperation with China, which is seen as a detriment.
Introduction of illegitimate sanctions without careful consideration is seen as a problem.
Russian President's goal is to reach $200 billion of mutual trade with China, and they have already exceeded that level.
01:24:00
Bilateral trade with China already totals $230 billion according to Russia, $240 billion according to China.
Trade between Russia and China is well balanced and mutually complimentary in high tech and energy.
BRICS countries are developing rapidly and their share of the world economy is increasing.
01:25:00
In 1992, the G7 countries accounted for 47% of the world economy, while now it's a little over 30%.
The share of BRICS countries in the world economy has grown, surpassing that of the G7.
This trend is due to global development and is inevitable.
The Russian President criticizes the US for not adapting to the changing world and instead using force and sanctions.
01:27:00
He mentions that his relationship with past US presidents like Bush and Trump was not based on their personalities but on the mindset of the American elite.
Russia being the first economy in Europe last year despite sanctions is highlighted.
The US uses a lot of sanctions, but it doesn't work well according to the Russian President.
The Russian President criticizes the US for its use of sanctions and describes them as counterproductive.
01:29:00
Despite the largest number of sanctions in the world, Russia has become Europe's first economy.
The Russian President suggests that if the ruling elites in the US realize that their current tools don't work, they may act in anticipation of what the voters and decision-makers expect.
When asked about who makes decisions in the US, the Russian President mentions the complexity of the country and the difficulty for outsiders to understand.
The Russian President criticizes the US for its policy of pressure against Russia, which he attributes to the creation of excessive production capacities during the confrontation with the Soviet Union.
01:31:00
He mentions NATO expansion, support for separatists in Caucasus, and creation of a missile defense system as elements of pressure against Russia.
The Russian President attributes the continuation of the policy of pressure to the influence of specialists on the Soviet Union who convinced the political leadership to continue pressuring Russia.
The world is changing and the United States is gradually shifting its position in the world.
01:32:00
The United States needs to change its approach to adapt to the changing world.
Experts believe the US is gradually changing its position in the world.
The US needs forward-thinking people to analyze global trends and make decisions at the political level.
NATO expansion eastward and the situation in Ukraine are discussed.
01:34:00
NATO's expansion eastward is seen as a violation of a promise made in 1990 and a threat to Russia.
Russia criticizes Ukraine for not complying with the Minsk agreements and accuses them of allowing NATO military structures in their territory.
The decision to end the war in Ukraine is attributed to the actions of neo-Nazis.
The president of Ukraine is believed to have the freedom to negotiate a settlement, but he is influenced by the support of the US and the West.
Russia's view on the freedom of the president of Ukraine to speak with Russia.
01:36:00
President Zelensky is perceived to have the freedom to speak with Russia, but Russia believes that the US and the West have influence over him.
The leader of the negotiation group in Ukraine is from the president's party and has previously agreed to sign a document, but public statements against Russia were made after persuasion from the UK.
Russia is open to negotiations and believes that Ukraine's decree prohibiting negotiations should be canceled.
Russia questions the decision to continue hostilities in Ukraine and mentions the role of the former Prime Minister of Great Britain.
01:40:00
Russia claims that the hostilities in Ukraine could have been stopped a year and a half ago if it wasn't for the persuasion of Mr. Johnson.
The president of Ukraine has the power to cancel the decree prohibiting negotiations with Russia.
The interviewee expresses confusion and frustration about the decision to continue the war.
The interviewer asks about the connection between Russia and Ukraine, and the interviewee's views on Orthodox Christianity.
01:41:00
Russia is described as Orthodox, which is central to the understanding of the country.
The interviewee's Christian faith has a deep effect on him as a leader.
Orthodoxy deeply rooted itself in the consciousness of the Russian people over the years.
Russia is loyal to people of other religions and values their culture.
01:42:00
Russian authorities have always been careful about the culture and religion of those who came into the Russian Empire.
All the peoples inhabiting Russia consider it their motherland, regardless of their religion.
Patriotic sentiment is strong in Russia, as the future of the country is connected to the well-being of its people and families.
Russia sees Christianity as a nonviolent religion, but is willing to protect itself when necessary.
01:44:00
Christianity is nonviolent, but Russia will protect itself, as seen in the context of the developments in Ukraine.
Russian culture is human-oriented and values the eternal and moral aspects.
Russian society is seen as similar to one big family with its own traditional values.
Putin sees the world's development as following inherent laws, with some nations rising and others declining.
01:46:00
Historically, some nations and empires have grown stronger before eventually declining.
Putin acknowledges the potential threats posed by genetic research and AI development.
He believes that international agreements will be necessary to regulate these developments in the future.
Putin acknowledges the need for regulations in genetic and AI research to prevent unbridled and uncontrolled development.
01:49:00
Mankind has to consider the potential threats posed by the newest developments in genetics and AI.
International agreement on regulations will be necessary once the threat from uncontrolled AI or genetics becomes apparent.
Putin acknowledges the request for the release of a Wall Street Journal reporter but suggests it is a matter for the special services to discuss.
01:51:00
Putin implies that the release of the reporter could be possible if reciprocal steps are taken by their partners.
He mentions that special services are in contact and discussing the matter.
There is a suggestion that the reporter may not be released without something in exchange, as is common practice.
The Russian official accuses a 32-year-old journalist of espionage for receiving classified information.
01:53:00
Receiving classified information in secret is considered espionage.
The official suggests the journalist was working for US special services or another agency.
The official mentions a story of a person serving a sentence in an Allied country for killing soldiers, highlighting the control exerted by US authorities.
The official hints at a possible return of the person mentioned earlier to his homeland, emphasizing the need for calm and professional resolution through dialogue between special services.
01:57:00
The official suggests that the person serving a sentence in an Allied country may return to Russia.
There is ongoing dialogue between special services to resolve the situation.
The official calls for the US Special Services to consider how they can contribute to the goals of Russian special services.
The Russian official criticizes the US and NATO, expressing willingness to negotiate and correct mistakes in the Ukraine conflict.
02:00:00
Russia is willing to negotiate with the US and Ukraine, but sees Ukraine as a satellite state of the US.
The official criticizes the financial support and weapons influx from the US and European countries to Ukraine.
Russia prepared a document in Istanbul for a negotiated settlement in Ukraine, but it was missed due to interference from Prime Minister Johnson.
The official accuses NATO and the US of breaking promises and expanding military presence in Ukraine.
Russia is open to negotiations and correcting mistakes in the Ukraine conflict.
Russian President's Comments on Ukraine and NATO
02:03:00
Russian President suggests that NATO is struggling to understand how to conduct negotiations.
He blames the current situation on NATO's opponents.
Russian President predicts that the relations between the Russian and Ukrainian peoples will be rebuilt over time.
He mentions a specific example of Ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield who identified themselves as Russian and refused to surrender.
Russian President's Views on Unity and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church
02:04:00
Russian President believes that the Russian people will be reunited, despite the perception of hostilities in the West.
He claims that the unity is still there.
Russian President suggests that the Ukrainian authorities are dismantling the Ukrainian Orthodox church because it brings together the people's souls and territory.
Conclusion and Remarks on Free Speech
02:06:00
The interviewer thanks the President.
The President emphasizes the importance of free speech.