Kobe Bryant | Ep 11 | Barnes’ Ball Fake, Shaq & Lakers, Michael Jordan | ALL THE SMOKE Full Podcast
ALL THE SMOKE2020-01-09
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💫 Short Summary
The video features discussions about Kobe Bryant's impact on the speaker's life, work ethic, post-career activities, competitiveness, personal growth, leadership, and mentoring. It also touches on family dynamics, relationships, perseverance, resilience, and the importance of health for success. The speaker reminisces about interactions with Bryant, highlights his dedication to excellence, and emphasizes the value of competitiveness and mental toughness in sports. Bryant reflects on coaching, writing, and passing on knowledge to younger players, showcasing his commitment to personal and professional growth. The video promotes positive outlook, determination, and gratitude, with a focus on basketball culture and community.
✨ Highlights
📊 Transcript
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Kobe Bryant's Impact on Speaker's Life.
02:56Speaker reflects on playing against Bryant and developing a friendship off the court.
Their rivalry evolved into a strong bond based on respect and shared experiences.
Speaker recalls humorous moments with Bryant, emphasizing his positive influence.
Their relationship transcended basketball, highlighting how competition can foster genuine connections and mutual respect.
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Kobe Bryant's dedication to his work ethic and maintaining a standard of excellence.
04:39Balancing personal life with professional responsibilities was a key focus for Kobe.
Kobe prioritized winning above all else and is considered one of the greatest Lakers.
The segment highlighted the anticipation for a candid conversation with Kobe and admiration for his skills and achievements.
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Kobe Bryant discusses his post-career activities, emphasizing the importance of creating resonant stories for athletes.
08:08Bryant enjoys coaching his daughter's basketball team and writing novels, finding satisfaction in watching players grow.
He focuses on asking questions and letting players figure things out, with a long-term goal of developing players to their fullest potential.
Bryant reflects on achieving goals beyond basketball, such as winning an Emmy.
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Speaker's upbringing emphasized mental toughness and hard work.
12:22Competitive household instilled a drive to succeed in sports and video games.
Transition to the NBA revealed varying levels of dedication and work ethic among peers.
Competitive nature prepared speaker for challenges and motivated them to excel in all endeavors.
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Experiences and Rankings in Basketball
13:45Progression from being ranked in the top 200 to number one in basketball rankings.
Memories from playing in the McDonald's game and the impact it had on the player.
Reflections on criticism and misunderstandings faced as a basketball player.
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The speaker reflects on his on-court versus off-court persona and emphasizes the importance of family time.
17:00He discusses the expectations and pressures on top basketball players, highlighting the need for consistent performance.
The speaker shares past experiences in the sport, including facing challenging opponents and developing skills.
He touches on pregame rituals and superstitions, providing insights into his preparation and mindset before games.
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Overcoming Challenges in Early Career
21:55Speaker felt overlooked and frustrated, but had a breakthrough opportunity during a lockout season.
Seized a starting position due to a player's injury, leading to a successful run.
Inspired by another player's dedication and hard work to push harder.
Experience of being benched still bothers speaker, but they recognize the importance of seizing opportunities.
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Kobe Bryant reflects on personal growth, leadership, and competitiveness in sports.
23:44Kobe emphasizes the importance of building relationships with teammates and highlights the mental toughness of teammate Matt.
He recounts a memorable play where he faked out an opponent and discusses the intensity of on-court confrontations.
Despite facing challenges and controversial calls, Kobe's dedication to the game and competitive spirit shine through in his anecdotes.
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Emphasis on competitiveness and work ethic in achieving goals.
28:03Contrasting approaches between individuals like MJ and the speaker in terms of pushing for goals.
Desire to win multiple championships and acceptance of achieving lesser goals.
Importance of giving maximum effort and being satisfied with the outcome.
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Kobe Bryant emphasizes the importance of players knowing themselves and understanding their strengths and weaknesses.
31:03Bryant credits mentors like Jerry West, Michael Jordan, and Hakeem Olajuwon for teaching him about winning championships and leadership.
He expresses his desire to pass on his knowledge to the next generation of players to help the game evolve and grow.
Bryant enjoys watching younger players like James Harden and Luka Doncic develop in the league.
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Bonding over Basketball with Daughter
33:12Watching basketball games together and discussing players strengthens the bond between father and daughter.
Emphasis on Raising Independent Daughters
Importance of instilling commitment and competitiveness in daughters to help them succeed in life.
Challenges and Joys of Marriage
Discussion on the ups and downs of marriage, highlighting the importance of persistence and determination.
Positive Outlook on Overcoming Tough Times
Encouragement to work through tough times with a positive attitude towards persistence.
Lakers' Improvement and Team Management
Brief mention of Lakers' improvement and praise for the team's management.
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Importance of resilience and health in achieving success.
37:24Emphasis on staying on track and overcoming obstacles with resilience, highlighting the role of health in overall success.
Reference to Lakers and Clippers teams in upcoming games, emphasizing the importance of physical well-being in sports performance.
Gratitude towards guests and promotion of Showtime basketball YouTube channel for viewers.
00:00all these years we've been building
00:02building building when that opportunity
00:04do come my way that's when the magic
00:07happens
00:10come on up in the head of the household
00:13was crazy depression anxiety I hated
00:21before I was gotten born out
00:24legalizing sports gambling might as well
00:26legalize cocaine and crystal meth so
00:29many people wanted Sonny dead question
00:32is who got him first
00:34this is the hardware part it supported
00:37own see we help people understand the
00:41blow
00:47fight
00:52[Music]
01:04I'm Mansell [ __ ]
01:07normally we shoot in Santa Monica or in
01:10New York but today we made a special
01:11road trip to go see the one and only you
01:15know I mean we had to drive a hour and a
01:17half in traffic to Seco it don't matter
01:19we had to drive backwards I was gonna
01:21get some good tears how snacks for these
01:23damn shoes one way enough that's the
01:24first thing you go do break oh how you
01:26doing look man I believe his shoes God
01:29undefeated pack we got to be fresh on
01:32the court now but I'm excited you know
01:34what I mean like I said he's someone
01:35that from the jump you know him coming
01:38to LA when I was at UCLA you got to play
01:40with the McDonald's game we kind of saw
01:41the early at the beginning and kind of
01:44just seen him continue to evolve and
01:45continue to be at one point you know the
01:48greatest player in the game and then one
01:51of the all-time greats you know so I
01:52think to have the chance to sit down and
01:55chop it up and reminisce and see what
01:58he's got going on post careers nothing
02:00she's gonna be though not only doing
02:02somebody who I you know father my
02:04favorite player of my time right but
02:06somebody that I grew up with you know
02:08like I said may be able to play break
02:10downs game with but last time I saw him
02:13was when he was able to talk to my son
02:14okay on his lay on there's a farewell
02:17tour and I never got you had to tell him
02:19thank you so this would be a great time
02:21that you know the pick his brain see
02:23what he got going on you know what I
02:24mean and you know rapid being man
02:27I think everyone thinks that he and I
02:29are enemies or don't [ __ ] with each
02:31other because I said to happen in
02:32Orlando with the ball fake but that's
02:33what kind of really hearing like that no
02:36that's what really brought us together
02:37you know that's what you know he after
02:39that season he hit me up like oh you
02:40want to be a Laker I said hell yeah and
02:42he said anyone crazy enough to [ __ ] with
02:44me is crazy enough to play with me so I
02:46think there's such like when people
02:47still you know Kobe doesn't like you you
02:49guys I'm just like it's it's not even
02:51let's be honest with you what you're
02:53talking about is what really brought us
02:54closer in the end and made us become
02:56friends you know so we had battles but
02:59then you know his teammates man we had
03:01some
03:02so crazy off-the-court funny you know
03:06what I remembered up I was this is the
03:09first time I ever seen Kobe out I was in
03:12Milwaukee we play a job remember I was
03:15suspended we came to the club you and
03:17you like I mean yo you called me like
03:19bro I'm going I'm bring Carl my man who
03:22ain't going I was like bro I'm telling
03:23you and I walked in the club yeah and
03:26Cole was in there and I couldn't believe
03:28it bro like what I'm telling you now he
03:30going out for I'm telling coming out
03:32with me cuz I was in my room you know I
03:34was pregame and I win the room burn war
03:35real quick and then I'm like yo what's
03:37going on man let's do something yeah and
03:39then he's all right let's go in all
03:42cities we went every when I've been
03:43walking you help you call me like bruh
03:45he'll be going out yeah I couldn't
03:47believe it
03:48now we bought the instantly man like I
03:49said on and off the court you know we
03:51are both going through some stuff in our
03:52personal life so it was just like on the
03:54core weak ball but then off the court we
03:56kicked it when without this stuff and
03:58you know rolling with him as a whole
03:59nother monster man we don't all these
04:01black-tie events and you see every
04:03that's kind of when I started I kind of
04:06know what the code is you know kind of
04:08started seeing these these Hollywood
04:11women you know under me maybe going to
04:13events with him and once you open that
04:15door for me do my thing so you know kind
04:23of like the 2000 when I was separated at
04:27the time for 2010 time oh that was the
04:31beginning of something beautiful know a
04:35Laker
04:36yeah and with with the one that arguably
04:39one of the greatest Lakers yeah a long
04:41time yeah the teammate on the road just
04:44his focus is it doesn't deter he'll go
04:46out and have a good time it's not like
04:47he's gonna go out all night and go crazy
04:50but if it's a situation where he does go
04:51out you know I mean the next morning
04:53he's up early like the schedules you
04:56know hadn't changed you know he's
04:57someone that you know insisted on the
04:59workers have a glass of wine every now
05:01they know the vino yeah you know to me
05:03but he'll get out there and still do his
05:04early-morning pre-practice workouts or
05:07pre shoot around workouts like he was a
05:09he was a beast you know I mean like he
05:11enjoyed herself but at the same time you
05:13never let it take away from his craft
05:15and that's what I think he held people
05:17to a standard you know you want to go
05:18out you want to go out fun go do that
05:19but don't let that [ __ ] up what we got
05:21going on the next day I don't know if he
05:23could have handled seeing what the kind
05:24of [ __ ] we did with the we believe team
05:26though but like I said we still came out
05:27and did our thing though every night but
05:30the weeds in the streets every night
05:32that team but we was doing that and
05:34winning he would have respected because
05:36that's all he was about to write at the
05:38end of days if I do your job but what
05:40you'd walk before as long as he's
05:41winning let's go all the smoke I'm
05:49looking forward to this obviously I
05:51think our goal is to have a candid
05:53conversation and get some [ __ ] out of
05:55him that he doesn't normally talk about
05:57this [ __ ] I'm actually enjoyed
06:00playing against and enjoy watching so
06:03I'm actually a fan of this man you can
06:05ask him about who deserves MVP in the
06:06McDonald's game yes I have to get that
06:08answer if he's damn sure you good cuz I
06:10don't know if I believe it until he
06:11could I don't watch the game so if he
06:13stamps you if Kobe stamps that I should
06:15have won MVP in the McDonald's nights
06:17it's on American game somebody need to
06:19send me a trophy
06:20y'all heard that you better send that
06:22[ __ ] I'm excited though there's gonna be
06:24one for the books all the [ __ ]
06:26smokes every show they go welcome back
06:38all the smoke episode 11 ringing in 2020
06:42oh my god 11 I don't wanna say that
06:46Spanish it won't say I don't say yeah I
06:51got I got Oh
06:54we appreciate you man thank you for your
06:56time we've been looking forward to this
06:58man the fans have been asking to get
07:00Kobe you need to get calling so we
07:01finally got cold so let's get into a man
07:06what is the difference between Kobe
07:08Bryant post-career and the Mamba the
07:12killer we saw on the court well yeah I
07:15think it's just a lot of the mentality
07:17is still the same industry just changes
07:20right so the same focus same attention
07:22to detail
07:24it's even more so now because you know
07:26we play you gotta take time off yeah let
07:28your body heal you I do certain things
07:30you know business and in creativity
07:32there is no off switch because your
07:34brain is constantly working all right so
07:37you know the similarities are there it's
07:39the focus attention to detail and try to
07:41surround yourself people that are just
07:43as managua as you are about their craft
07:45and the differences are I don't have to
07:46put my body through hell every day yeah
07:48true some of the things I've seen
07:51post-career that that I love or
07:53obviously you know you coaching your
07:55daughter and then your new fascination
07:57with writing novels yeah going to detail
08:01with us
08:01yeah well coaching the kids it's fine
08:03just kind of came out of nowhere because
08:04my daughter just decided she wanted to
08:05play about two and a half years ago you
08:08know and so started coaching her a
08:10little bit and then she made a local
08:13all-star team and that's where we met
08:15the rest of the girls that are now on
08:17the team and you know they're all
08:18started at the real kind of ground level
08:20but they enjoy playing so much it just
08:22kind of grew into what it is now and
08:25it's been it's been a lot of fun and
08:27then the novel writing really started
08:29just with the kids the kids can't keep
08:31reading stories that have no relation to
08:33them whatsoever and I don't mean just
08:35from life you know diversity like a
08:37color standpoint not only just that but
08:38from the fact that they're athletes and
08:40there's no story that kind of speaks to
08:43athletes it's all like those princesses
08:46and sleep and prince wakes you up with
08:48the kiss we enjoyed that stuff but it's
08:54not you know it's not reality we're not
08:56gonna sleep and then wake up years later
08:58and be successful right you know the
09:01problems gotta work gotta work so I
09:03wanted to create stories that I could
09:04read to them alright athletes that go
09:06through that types right tell me what
09:07it's like coaching your daughter you
09:09know cuz I coach my boys we'll be at the
09:11same tournament coming up this weekend
09:13what is it like for you being on that
09:15sideline it's fun because I get a chance
09:18to sit and watch and ask questions you
09:20know that's that's really my job and
09:23coach the staffs job is to really ask
09:26questions you know let them figure
09:28things out throughout the course of the
09:30game and you'll win some and you lose
09:32some
09:32that way we probably went a lot more if
09:34we felt like we would micromanage how
09:37they play the game and call plays and
09:39sets also stuff but we really just kind
09:40of sit back and let them process things
09:43and figure things out because we are a
09:44plan for the long game of them being the
09:46best basketball players they can be but
09:48it's fun to sit there and watch them who
09:50love it
09:51you know you didn't want to ask her you
09:52know we have we dream have a dream of
09:55winning an Emmy without show you don't
09:57want to ask her in there mean what tell
09:58me how how did that what did that feel
10:00like to be able to say you know to win a
10:01high school you know you of course you
10:03wanted to be with six rings with Mike
10:04yeah but you have something that he
10:06probably probably never give you don't
10:09say I can't get one of these so have to
10:11buy that you know it was it's different
10:14because in competition you're you're
10:16it's like it's a direct competitive
10:18thing you know your competitors are you
10:20know you we got their face like no no I
10:23mean so it's like you know it's a direct
10:26competition when it comes to the arts
10:27it's not that you just try to create the
10:29best thing you possibly can and then see
10:31how you know in this case the Academy
10:33response to it so it's very different
10:35like sitting there at Oscar night like
10:36there's nothing you can do I just don't
10:39need to be nervous it's no need that
10:40because things are what they are it's
10:42out of your hands you did the best job
10:43that you could possibly do and then you
10:45go from there
10:46but the biggest lesson learned from is
10:48you work with brilliant people that see
10:50the world the same way and magical
10:52things happen and that's true across
10:53industries you got I got John Williams
10:56and Glen Keane who have never met but
10:58they are both giants in their respective
11:01industries see their craft the same way
11:04and you put them on a project together
11:05and you know like for you coming into
11:08this business space overall with all
11:10your success you've had in sports you
11:12know I kind of feel like been next step
11:14in life people either kind of okay they
11:16praise you for what you did and excite
11:17ger to work with you or they're like oh
11:19it's my [ __ ] things because he won
11:21five titles you know that he can do
11:22whatever he wants it's a little bit of
11:24both right so like I can get any meeting
11:26you know but then it's the follow-up
11:28right I used to get things all the time
11:30where it's
11:31yeah come in for the meeting for this
11:32company that you want to build these
11:33ideas that you want to build that's all
11:35cool and you sit down and they're trying
11:37to pitch you on being on the show of you
11:39in front of the camera I'm Lenny I'm not
11:41about that right right so it kind of it
11:43goes both ways and so what we've had to
11:45do is just build it ourselves
11:46just got sick and tired of it you know
11:48trying to go out and partnering with
11:49people that you know act like they
11:51believe in the vision but when the push
11:53comes to shove they really don't they
11:54just want me my 20 years and I'm saying
11:58I'm trying to put that to bed and build
11:59something for the next one night and the
12:01best way to do that is to do that
12:02ourselves what was a pivotal moment
12:04growing up where you developed your
12:07desire and the tremendous work I think I
12:10speak on a mental toughness that you
12:11have what was there early on pick that
12:14up I'm trying to remember I'm at well
12:16we've we had a really competitive
12:18household with my cousins and you know
12:20my father and my uncle and stuff like we
12:22was very competitive and you had to
12:24really really work to just survive
12:26Blaine you know that's what's swimming
12:29that's playing basketball I was playing
12:30video games whatever I mean it was a
12:32shit-talking family away then when you
12:34lose not only lose but you get
12:36embarrassed why you know I mean so I
12:38grew up in that kind of environment so
12:40you had to work hard just to just to
12:43kind of keep your head above water sort
12:44of thing and I came into the NBA I was
12:46like man these dudes really don't that
12:48hard
12:49it was pretty it's kind of an eye-opener
12:52I was like but you start off young like
12:55you know we the same age who grew up was
12:56like you got a kill list at 13 I did and
12:59I know no you kill this deer coming up
13:05[ __ ] like yeah yeah no you kill this the
13:0913 bruh well Tim Thomas yeah of course -
13:13Thomas yeah no because ripping out were
13:18like both no bodies yeah so he went to
13:22codes for holds laws of law marriage we
13:23were in nobody so we played over saying
13:25AAU team together and so we were really
13:28close so he might have had a kill list -
13:31so that's all just people what ranked
13:33higher than you ranked higher because I
13:34like going into my sophomore year I was
13:36probably ranked somewhere in like the
13:39top 200 mm something like that mm-hmm
13:41and then it kind of went up
13:43150 and then by the time I was a senior
13:45hit number one with Jo Gervais was up
13:49there at Leicester girl Portman Holloway
13:51quarry [ __ ] Mike Bibby Mike Bibby you
13:54don't let me you know was outclassed was
13:57you know I tell you what the first time
13:59I ever actually ever heard you 40 was
14:02that a UH all-american camp
14:04yeah you all hanging out in dorms and
14:06back then it was notable big e9j there
14:10playing a 40 is shooting craps I don't
14:12like man well you guys played in the
14:24McDonald's game together and Jack how
14:25this do you want any BP right no I
14:27should have won a baby I'm glad you said
14:30that colt
14:31so Shaheen Holloway he had like ten
14:33turnovers to grow but you know what got
14:35an EVP remember the bounce pass to
14:37Lester oh you're dunked on boss yeah I
14:39think that was the big play but I had I
14:41led the game in scoring actually was
14:43eight to ten from the field three for
14:44three from the three-point line
14:45but our team me you ripped Jermaine
14:49O'Neal and she not what yeah crazy
14:53starting fires no I did so he loves the
14:56fact that you thought he should he said
15:00this before he's like she he Holloway
15:02well but code knows I should say there
15:09was dope though it was a great
15:10experience because our team though you
15:12gotta let like me you Jemaine I mean he
15:15made a long career out of all of us you
15:17know me rip has had some videos remember
15:19his pops used to travel around with the
15:21camcorder all the time yes so he was
15:23showing me some some clips with me some
15:25of his old footage and watching those
15:26knuckleheads walk around I posted a
15:28picture recently a me you my baby and
15:31will at the McDonald's game that's crazy
15:33that's what me and you first met that's
15:35not yeah we first get better we get
15:39better there we talked about this a
15:41little bit off-camera and we're talking
15:43about Steven Naismith and kind of how
15:44the roles were reversed now and he's and
15:46almost in a player's perspective where
15:47he's getting criticized and everything
15:49was there everything as a player that
15:51you remember that was said about you or
15:53written about you that really kind of
15:55stung and
15:56hurt electric career uh you know it was
15:58funny all that all of it does you know a
16:01lot of stuff said about me or
16:02selfishness type of stuff it's like boy
16:05you can't win five raise me itself
16:06doesn't happen but I get that's kind of
16:09become the mantra is kind of become the
16:11slang though the binocular or the the
16:13running joke or he doesn't pass and also
16:16crap that's okay you know but I'll take
16:19those five breaks Bob alright I'll take
16:21five it's a lot it's it I know men Matt
16:24and I know you two like I've been
16:26misunderstood now I feel like I missed a
16:28lot of a couple all-star appearances due
16:30to the bra sure you know and I've been
16:34misunderstood because you know me and
16:36you know I mean I'm not the person that
16:37they they label me to be after the after
16:39being a lawyer teammate but what's the
16:42most misunderstood thing about you I
16:44think is that man I think it's the it's
16:46the selfishness or you know arrogant
16:57it's a different side of it I think it's
17:00the the perception of the way I am on
17:03the court is the way I am off the court
17:04it's two completely different things man
17:06two completely different things I mean I
17:08can be a absolute teddy bear at home
17:10with my family with my kids and join
17:12that family time and I'm really
17:15psychotic about having that family time
17:17making sure we're doing what we have to
17:19do as a family but I'm doing school
17:21drop-offs and pickups and you know
17:23giving my baby shower and doing all the
17:25stuff like I'm making sure I'm there for
17:26him as man's ossible right and so but on
17:29the basketball court it's a completely
17:30different animal and I think the biggest
17:31thing is you know I see people saying
17:33well I don't like him and what okay who
17:39are you like that sort of stuff but it's
17:42all good come to the territory have you
17:44have you have you have a shot at a ball
17:45from the free-throw line
17:46no so how do do you feel that you should
17:49be if you're a top ten player in the
17:52league you should ever shoot the air bar
17:53the free-throw line uh I'm sure it
17:56happens you have it I've never been ten
18:00I don't think if you're top ten places
18:02never shoot a free pair ball free throw
18:04how you refer to something in particular
18:05there's no people stars all stars peer
18:08because multiple
18:09have done it yeah I can only speak from
18:12personal experience man Ivan I've never
18:13shot a airballs in the free-throw line
18:15and okay you have it okay no not even my
18:18left right all right
18:22this year will be when June rolls around
18:2520 years since you won your first title
18:26what a me become the ax man crazy right
18:29damn really yeah long time
18:33whoa oh man oh no I remember the just us
18:41you know being really excited that we
18:43got through Portland there what time
18:45he's what we have we have bonds eons Oh
18:48any weeds no he was telling us about
18:49that series it was before he was a
18:51nightmare he was a nightmare matchup for
18:53me man cuz that you is I was really
18:55scrawny in like 120 soaking wet he was
18:57just trying to beat the [ __ ] out of me
18:59in the polls and him Stacey Augmon they
19:03really helped me develop my post defense
19:05of presidents cuz I was a weakness I had
19:07to develop that quite a bit
19:08not member he's going into the Indiana
19:10series we're just ready we were
19:12confident we knew how we wanted to
19:13execute we knew what we needed to do and
19:15we just try to take him out there sets
19:16as much as possible man and then you
19:18know Jalen slayed his foot undermined
19:20and cost the series go a little long and
19:21initiative but you know ultimately we
19:24got it done any pregame rituals or
19:27superstitions that you had the right to
19:29know you know I don't have no just go
19:32out the door I go out move man like it
19:34like sometimes you know like on a game
19:37day from time I go to sleep from now I
19:39won't you never walk around I'll walk
19:42around a pre so a pregame that wasn't
19:44essential for you know like if I was
19:47tired I'd go to sleep well I wasn't out
19:48I just won you know sometimes I'd sleep
19:51like for 15 minutes on the training
19:53table before a game and that's all you
19:55need just to reload
19:56yeah yes I'm already in shape I don't
19:58need to sleep to being shake the radio I
19:59have to run all day already my stamina
20:01is already where it should be so like
20:02whether or not I'm sleepy or not like
20:04being sleepy and being fatigued or two
20:06different things
20:06yeah I can play the game and be sleepy
20:09and not be fatigued it's fine just know
20:12lowest moment like we don't know we had
20:14a couple Louis more low moments in our
20:16career where you know see the things we
20:18control our it was
20:20fault was what was a low moment in your
20:22career I don't really say you haven't
20:24know who was a couple of me well losing
20:27to the Celtics adenylate was tough but
20:29before that like at the beginning of the
20:31journey was not playing so coming in as
20:34a rookie and saying man if I knew his
20:36[ __ ] was gonna be like this I wouldn't
20:37went to school just like because I felt
20:40like my coach Dale Harris at the time
20:41was trying to make sure you did not show
20:44favoritism to the young kid and as a
20:46result he swung completely the opposite
20:49direction and doing things that weren't
20:50really fair and I mean not playing you
20:53know so like my first two three years
20:54were nice people don't know that people
20:58don't people don't know that people
20:59don't know you went through that the
21:00first three you know it was tough I mean
21:02you know I sit around I watch all my
21:04peers going out there playing 35 37
21:06minutes you know hey I radio and they're
21:09all doing their thing Sharif I'm doing
21:11everybody's doing that thing and I'm
21:12seeing a glue to the [ __ ] getting
21:14really really pissed off and take
21:15doffing and I she was just going to
21:17college that was the hardest part yeah
21:20what was finally what was that
21:22breakthrough when it was okay and that
21:24your number was called to someone get
21:25hurt and finally do it what was it
21:27during the lockout season and the season
21:29started Rick Fox had plantar fasciitis
21:32on both feet but you wanted to play
21:34somebody else in front of me and that
21:35person got hurt and so then he had no
21:38choice but to start me but start me as
21:41small forward and so this is when like
21:43small forwards was big small forward yes
21:46big was King Jesus Abdul Rahim this is
21:49pit this is right so I started the first
21:51whatever ten games at small for I think
21:54I started like like seven straight
21:55double doubles or something like that
21:56and then I've been in the starting
21:58lineup ever since no looking back but I
22:00don't I mean I might have who the hell
22:02knows how long when I came off the bench
22:04for Rick Perry you really
22:09especially to like I said I seen I got a
22:12different side because I went to UCLA
22:14almost parallel when you came to LA so I
22:16would see you on campus I would see you
22:18working out in the gym and I would know
22:19like damn this [ __ ] why is he
22:21not playing me I looked there from it
22:23like a point of view like I see this
22:25dude workout like people don't plate
22:27like he looks like Michael Jordan out
22:28there like I would see he would come in
22:30after our UCLA price I remember one time
22:32you had broke your right hand and you
22:34came up to UCLA and did a whole workout
22:36left-handed like you were a left-handed
22:37player and I was just like oh [ __ ] in
22:41the next CD came a shooting left-handed
22:42shots people like oh my god he's this I
22:44was like no he worked on that [ __ ] his
22:46whole time he had this hand in the calf
22:47if you watch Kyrie Kyrie get all that
22:50from you just mad I'm not playing
22:52right that's like you sitting down
22:54you're not playing and you watch it
22:56everybody else kill the league you know
22:59you should be doing that it still pisses
23:01me off to this day because like
23:03ultimately you know what numbers would
23:05you have put it all right cuz everybody
23:07wants to go to that Oh this go to create
23:09no must go to create so Bob would
23:10somebody would have told me that bad
23:11that's 335 1000 points I'm saying so you
23:15know those three years of not playing is
23:17sitting on the bench and we're just
23:18watching frustrating mmm what personal
23:22growth did you go through from
23:23three-peat with Shaq he's gone into you
23:27when your next title with with with POW
23:29and the crew understand how to connect
23:32the team more I didn't have to wish I
23:35could shock was the guy that connected
23:37everybody they don't still drove a hard
23:39bargain but he was the jovial one and
23:41connected everybody so I figure out how
23:44to do that but do that in my own way
23:46right you know with with my sarcasm you
23:51know try humor or whatever the case may
23:53be and being authentic with guys but
23:55still being able to build that
23:57relationship and understand that this is
23:58what it's about
23:59and as a result wound up having a
24:01closest team you know that was the
24:02closest team I've ever played on man it
24:04was but that was the biggest change what
24:07was Matt like as a teammate you know I
24:08played with him and go to state my
24:10brother we've been through a lot of
24:12stuff on and off the
24:13mom's best friend I was with him during
24:15a tough time he lost his mom so our
24:18relationship is deeper than basketball
24:19but what was he like as a teammate yeah
24:21exactly what I thought he was gonna be
24:25feisty yeah tough competitive and not
24:30afraid of big moments mm-hmm you know
24:32that's why I respected the most guys
24:34that weren't afraid you got to have some
24:35cojones you playing with me ain't got no
24:37cojones man I ain't that kind of leads
24:40me to the next thing because I think
24:42people think there's such a disconnect
24:43between you are because of the ship in
24:45Orlando Oh think that no I wanted him
24:48because of anyone crazy enough to [ __ ]
24:54with me is crazy not to play with me so
24:57it was funny though because that was
24:59just a back-and-forth game and that kind
25:00of just spoke to both of our
25:01competitiveness you know I the year
25:03before you guys had beat Orlando hmm so
25:06we come back the next year thinking okay
25:07we're gonna play the Lakers again we're
25:09getting towards the end of the season
25:10it's a back and forth game and I tell
25:11people when I played you like I just
25:13look forward to it because I mean
25:14everyone knows how [ __ ] good you are
25:15but you mentally attack people too you
25:18do your little cove shiver your elbow
25:19and then grab a knock in the win L will
25:21be right you know what you talking about
25:27[ __ ] I'm the one getting T so it just
25:31came to over ever like mask everything
25:36so the play was crazy because I
25:37literally just faked the ball and it
25:39wasn't like thought of or anything and
25:40you and I didn't realize how close they
25:42came in your face obviously you didn't
25:44move but then when I saw after like that
25:45[ __ ] was like you flinch this awesome
25:53regular she got a whole basketball in
25:55his face after we really didn't going
25:57through and he just I I was I would tell
25:59the story about losing San Antonio this
26:01my second time I turn around she's
26:03jumping you hit my whole arm
26:05the referees right there don't call that
26:08you take the ball Harlem cut right so
26:11you know me I'm always walking with the
26:12ref I'm in the full argument with the
26:14ref but I'm guarding you at the same
26:16time and so you start telling me he
26:18better pay attention
26:21so I'll bargain with it we'll try to
26:22listen to you you shoot the [ __ ]
26:24from the logo Nick give me a look then
26:28the referee give me the same to look
26:29like I'm like so look this will made it
26:31worse
26:31then pops uh be right out I can't give
26:36my gift back ma I just tried to [ __ ]
26:38with Charlie much as possible I knew
26:40about you know like you know y'all
26:42coaches a pop gun do you mean [ __ ]
26:45that's crazy
26:46anything awesome but they're crazy yeah
26:48a little you know different way yeah yes
26:51I just tried to do what I could to take
26:52you guys out of the game mm-hmm you know
26:54you know even if it meant like your
26:56replacement yeah I was coming in for you
26:58guys did a better job guarding me yeah
27:00then I'd be comfortable with that
27:01oh yeah yeah let them come in and Garbi
27:04yeah they do a much better job than
27:05these two guys let's go and then meeting
27:08somebody else he's not gonna solve
27:09anyway away and did you roast them yeah
27:14[Laughter]
27:20you know to me you know a good deed has
27:22never gonna stop great office I just
27:24wanted to make you work yeah I mean so
27:25you know of me there was there was gonna
27:27be hard foul there gonna be no easy
27:28layups if you shot fake me to me times
27:30I'm just gonna I'm just gonna file you
27:32hard you know I mean and that's what I
27:33explain to people like great offense is
27:35always gonna be great because you just
27:37want to make them work for everything so
27:38you scored 30 points I wanted you to
27:39take 30 shots yeah you know that kind of
27:41thing so that we go back to pro from
27:42Three's those things in LA I made the
27:46first electing like are you serious
27:53have you ever sat down and had like a
27:55real off the camera combo MJ oh yeah
27:59what does that like looking in the
28:01mirror no it's fun I mean it's fun no
28:03we're we're really different it's crazy
28:05like he'll compete to you anything to
28:08you yeah different I guess I mean like
28:10he'll compete with any and everything I
28:12won't I only compete with things that I
28:14really am good at like I'm not just
28:16gonna compete on something you don't
28:18know is everything you know who you know
28:23who taught basketball all day long and
28:26not stopped the committee well what
28:28would it happen if you know my 91
28:31against your oh three
28:32you know like what would happen in your
28:35opinion
28:36come on okay ask him that yeah complete
28:40dominance or in a bit seven-game serial
28:42with what he started the conversation
28:45with was well I would have destroyed you
28:50hey you know listen now I just I just
28:52said listen just remember where you talk
28:54to that's which I'm just messing with
28:58you and then we just kind of moved on
28:59that's dope but it would ever been it'd
29:01have been fun that's dope man
29:03just even know that I had their
29:05conversations dope oh yeah yeah yeah how
29:09bad I remember playing with you your
29:12whole thing is that you said I want to
29:13sit at the table with MJ yeah meaning
29:15you wanted that six ring what did it
29:17mean not to be able to get that
29:18oh I pissed me off you know but things
29:21are what they are you know you gotta you
29:23you push for a goal and my original goal
29:25was to try to win eight eight and you
29:28push for it you push for you push for
29:30you do the best you can okay at the end
29:32of the day you can be comfortable with
29:33the results and where they landed and
29:35where they ended up and so that's the
29:37most important thing that's why I can be
29:39really really comfortable with the
29:40career that I've had because you know I
29:42worked as hard as you possibly could
29:45that's it you and Shaq were able to win
29:47three together obviously there's been
29:49back and forth of you know what he was
29:52like what you were like whatever but if
29:53you guys were on the same page connected
29:55mentally how many do realistic feel like
29:57you couldn't want very probably I mean
30:00San Antonio was tough they were they
30:02were tough and so like when the playoffs
30:04came around wasn't like Shaq and I
30:05weren't on the same page when the
30:07playoffs came where we always were the
30:09same page we just got beat yeah yeah I'm
30:12saying so like we've you know the bigger
30:14question would be how many would we have
30:17won if the Spurs weren't Spurs cuz you
30:23probably would have ran the tip not win
30:24decade they you know he was he was
30:26killing that he was by self that year no
30:28he was lights out he lights out right
30:30and so the talent the coaching
30:32everything in San Antonio was kind of a
30:34perfect storm and so if they weren't in
30:36the picture we probably would have run
30:37ten in a row and they'd probably say the
30:40same thing about us that's crazy you got
30:42a lot of young players that's reaching
30:44out to you now
30:45yeah you know your advice to them like
30:47like what you tell them like how does
30:48that feel
30:48depends what they ask me like a lot of
30:50them will come and ask about their game
30:52and things that they should do and
30:53things like that and I say listen you
30:54got a you know the answer to that I
30:56don't know but you know it makes you
30:58uncomfortable when you play and I think
31:00that's the biggest thing for kids
31:01nowadays is that they want to rely on
31:03coaches too much and workout guys you
31:07know which is fine I have them help you
31:08work out but you have to tell them what
31:10you need right you have to be able to
31:13say okay I feel uncomfortable with this
31:14and if you don't know then you're not as
31:16prepared as you should be right you need
31:18to know what your strengths and
31:19weaknesses are first and then you know I
31:22can tell you some of the things some of
31:23the rhythmic things or some of the
31:25exercises or how much repetition you
31:27need to be doing on certain things but
31:29you got to know your game where did that
31:30come from though because you see I mean
31:32obviously one of the greats you know is
31:33where you rank but I really see you know
31:35with your Academy out there and Thousand
31:37Oaks like you open up your doors and
31:38your arms for players to come in and
31:41where did that come from that that
31:43giving back wanted it to come from
31:45really well the guys that came before it
31:47did the same thing for me you know I've
31:50had really in-depth conversations with
31:52Jay West and talking about things same
31:54thing with MJ yeah I've had great
31:56mentors
31:57Olajuwon I've had guys of all time
31:59greats Bill Russell I mean we talked a
32:02lot about how to win championships how
32:05to lead and so I felt like it's it's my
32:08job to try to pass that information on
32:10to the next generation and then see the
32:13game develop and see it grow mm-hm
32:15you know what I mean it's it's amazing
32:17that a look back and see what some of
32:18these athletes are doing that right
32:19right whether it's the generation of
32:21James Harden Luca Don chips now and some
32:25of the play like it's fun to sit back
32:27and watch the game grow and that's why I
32:30do it who were some of the younger
32:32players or players in the league right
32:33now that you do follow when you get a
32:35chance to watch you know it's funny I'm
32:37on dope
32:37so before GG got into basketball I
32:40hardly watched it but now she's in the
32:43basketball we watch it's gone she wanted
32:45to watch it too it's on every night I
32:46love it it's on every night and I mean
32:48every game I mean she she asked me to
32:50get the lead pass on her phone and
32:52everything
32:53Azealia she watches everything so you
32:56know we'll watch she'll like she likes
32:57watching trade young a lot she watched
32:58his Luka a lot she watches James she
33:00watches rusty she watches bran she
33:03watching me she watches mm-hmm ooh you
33:06would watch she watches watches well I
33:08guess I'm and there's so many young
33:10talented players out there it's it's
33:12amazing and when I took it to the Laker
33:13game that's a first lady game I've been
33:14to I think since a jury's retirement and
33:18we just had so much fun because of the
33:21first time I was seeing the game through
33:23her eyes it wasn't me sitting there you
33:27know as an athlete or a player or
33:29something like that and you know it's
33:31like about me and I don't like that it
33:33was her like she was having such a good
33:36time and the players were coming up and
33:37saying hi to her right you know Brown
33:40was talking about her fade away you know
33:41you know it was it was exciting and she
33:43has such a great time as a father
33:45because just that's all you want
33:46that's nice snaps bless yes being the
33:48father with girls I have girls both got
33:50girls yeah when it's time for that first
33:53date they gonna get that mom booked 81
33:56points down you gonna get a departed to
33:58stare like look bruh yeah I put anyone
34:00on the court don't maybe putting one of
34:02these on you I think it's implied yes
34:07already things apply these government
34:09you know nothing Vanessa honestly jobs
34:12are harder bargain than I do when it
34:13comes to that really that stuff yeah
34:15yeah yeah so you got to get past that
34:17line of defense fix your mom's on that's
34:20national security with the big big big
34:25dog yeah nice exactly so but nods good
34:28and we just try to raise our girls to be
34:30strong independent women you know and
34:33I'm saying hold themselves to really
34:35high standards yeah
34:36self-respect things of that nature and
34:39you just trust that you've raised them
34:41the right way you have an S I've been
34:42going for 20 years
34:43yeah tell me what that mean with with
34:45the height of your career and who you
34:46are how what what forgot the secret
34:48sauce man that's perfect but you guys
34:51have seen to make it work just just
34:52commitment and competitiveness of we are
34:55going to succeed you know like we've
34:58seen couples that have been like 85
35:02years old you know
35:03oh you look at you like oh man such an
35:06old sweet
35:06I lost this stuff and I'm going I talk
35:09to him because I want to know why the
35:13guy whose it's great but I mean she just
35:16kicked me out of the bed last night I'll
35:18sleep on the couch man change so it's a
35:27constant up and down that have been
35:28flows of relationships but that's also
35:30the beauty of it and having the
35:32persistence and a determination to work
35:34through things very very tough things
35:36and we've been able to do that so last
35:41thing before we get out of here the
35:43state of the Lakers
35:44yeah with a B and LeBron I think they've
35:46turned the corner you know hats off to
35:49rob and in the front office who kind of
35:51orchestrated this team but what do you
35:53think of first that was a duo but then
35:56the state of the Lakers yeah well I
35:57think I think people got a she really
36:01seen Rob's praises well I was one of the
36:08people like I said when I spoke could he
36:09know me up straight from the cuff you
36:11know even though I know Rob and I've
36:12seen him at games we shook hands since
36:13but I was just like you know it looks
36:15like a disaster right now yeah and they
36:16navigated through and put words together
36:18that work they say in the big pitch when
36:20nobody else did but but that's the point
36:22though right yeah being able to stay the
36:24course and you know Rob and I've talked
36:25about that stuff like we're not talking
36:27we don't talk about you know this move
36:29of that move it's more so him as a
36:31friend as a saint Rob you've been there
36:33with me now it's just you going through
36:35it and you know how we handle it is you
36:37just stay the course all the storms
36:39going on and you just stay here
36:40just do your job do your job do your job
36:42do your job but man I mean what he's
36:44done with that team in two years on the
36:48contracts that they once had and were
36:49tied up to to what they have on this
36:51roster now I mean they are the biggest
36:53team that I probably ever seen their
36:56length also Big Ten school being tough
36:59tough athleticism
37:02so they look fantastic I think the
37:05biggest thing for them and what they
37:07really need to invest in is health
37:11making sure that shrimp training is
37:13where it should be making sure
37:15physically always where they should be a
37:16Judy over there
37:18you know there's little time now she's
37:20Debus yeah so I think that's the biggest
37:22thing for them is his health if they're
37:24healthy you know it's gonna be a hell of
37:26a freeway series here yeah so that's a
37:30GU bloom feel like it's gonna be Lakers
37:31and Clippers coming out the way it looks
37:33like it it looks like it um yeah you
37:35know that Clippers team is uh well put
37:37together to that they got dogs man yeah
37:40that ain't scared of nothing for the
37:43clothes on the show previously I such a
37:45shout out so me and my sons were trying
37:50to find his undefeated pack okay you got
37:52to sit me in the right direction bro we
37:54need them the ones on I'm a big-time
38:05shoe fairy
38:06I need them Jay I need my boxes back so
38:17you were next on the list man but we
38:18just learned we really appreciate you
38:20man yeah that's it man that's a wrap
38:31episode 11 man we hope you guys enjoy it
38:34we can't thank our guests enough various
38:35of all time Kobe Bryant Jack we did it
38:37did it again but your hands aren't
38:39soaking wet congratulations man make
38:41sure you check this out Showtime
38:43basketball YouTube channel and all
38:45platforms streaming puck and C onsen on
38:48sale on sea
38:55all these years we've been building
38:57building building when that opportunity
39:00do come my way that's when the magic
39:02happens
39:07come on up in the head of the household
39:08crazy depression anxiety all the things
39:13I had I had hated before I've just
39:17gotten worn out
39:18[Music]
39:19legalizing sports gambling might as well
39:21legalize cocaine and crystal meth so
39:24many people wanted Sonny dead question
39:27is who got to him first this is the hard
39:30part it's just a partner Thomsen we help
39:35people understand the blows
39:42fight
39:47[Music]
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