00:00welcome to the huberman Lab podcast
00:02where we discuss science and
00:03science-based tools for everyday
00:08life I'm Andrew huberman and I'm a
00:10professor of neurobiology and
00:12Opthalmology at Stanford school of
00:14medicine today we are talking about goal
00:16setting and achieving goals now we've
00:19done three full episodes about this
00:22topic previously I did a solo episode
00:24about this topic where I described the
00:26Neuroscience of the circuitry in the
00:29brain and body that underlies goal
00:31setting and pursuit I also hosted two
00:33expert guests who have done extensive
00:36research on these topics those guests
00:38were Dr Emily baltis from New York
00:40University and Dr MAA Shankar so today's
00:44episode is going to focus on the key
00:45takeaways from those three previous
00:48episodes as well as incorporate new
00:51information that has been published in
00:53the scientific literature since those
00:55episodes aired so that by the end of
00:57today's episode you will have a potent
00:59tool kit for setting and pursuing goals
01:03we will talk about how to select which
01:05goals to pursue and when we will talk
01:07about how to measure your progress we
01:10will talk about how to initiate and
01:12sustain motivation as you pursue your
01:15goals we are also going to dispel some
01:17prominent myths about goal setting in
01:19Pursuit given that this is a toolkit
01:21episode I will talk about some of the
01:23underlying biological mechanisms for the
01:26protocols that I describe but most of
01:28what I will cover are the protocols
01:30themselves the how to identify a goal
01:32select the best goal for you to pursue
01:35how to initiate goal Pursuit how to
01:37maintain goal Pursuit how to evaluate
01:39progress and how to do the post Hawk
01:42analysis after you achieve a goal or as
01:44the case may be not achieve a goal
01:46although I'm confident that if you
01:48implement even a subset of the protocols
01:50that we cover today that you stand the
01:52greatest possible chance of both setting
01:55the proper goal and achieving that goal
01:58and I can say that both with confidence
01:59Ence and humility because the protocols
02:02I describe were not created by me they
02:04are gleaned from the scientific
02:06peer-reviewed literature and they have
02:08been shown to work before we begin I'd
02:11like to emphasize that this podcast is
02:12separate from my teaching and research
02:14roles at Stanford it is however part of
02:16my desire and effort to bring zero cost
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04:44about goal setting and pursuit and as I
04:46mentioned a few minutes ago this is a
04:48toolkit episode so I'm not going to talk
04:50too much about the mechanistic
04:51underpinnings of the protocols for goal
04:53setting and pursuit I'm mostly just
04:55going to give you those protocols but
04:56before I do that I want to take just
04:58three minutes I promise just 3 minutes
05:00or less and describe the neural
05:02circuitry involved in goal setting and
05:05pursuit and there are two reasons to do
05:06that first of all the biology of goal
05:08setting and pursuit is absolutely
05:10beautiful it's incredible that we and
05:12many other animals in fact have this
05:14neural circuitry and that it works in
05:16the way that it does but equally
05:18important is that when we have a
05:19mechanistic understanding or framework
05:21for how a protocol or set of protocols
05:23work it makes it much easier to tweak
05:26those protocols and customize them to
05:28our unique needs okay so with that said
05:31the goal setting and pursuit circuitry
05:33essentially consists of four major
05:36stations in the brain although it's
05:37important to point out that each of
05:39those stations has a number of other
05:41connections that are important for the
05:43whole goal setting and pursuit process
05:45but we can distill things down to four
05:48major hubs or stations within the brain
05:50and those are the basil ganglia the
05:53lateral prefrontal cortex and the
05:55orbital frontal cortex so going through
05:58those one by one the amydala is a
06:00structure within the brain you actually
06:01have two of them one on each side of the
06:03brain that is involved in circuits
06:06associated with arousal in driving
06:08levels of alertness it's also involved
06:10in fear you've probably heard that many
06:11times before but also things like
06:13anxiety and actually the amydala can be
06:15involved in what we call positive
06:16veilance experiences not just the bad
06:18stuff like fear and anxiety but also
06:20positive forms of arousal and even
06:22learning the basil ganglia include a lot
06:25of different brain structures but for
06:27sake of today's discussion what you need
06:28to know is that the basil ganglia
06:30includes two major Pathways one is the
06:33so-called go pathway which is the
06:34pathway involved in generating actions
06:36and the other is the so-called no-go
06:38pathway or the pathway involved in
06:40withholding or ceasing action and this
06:43is really important to understand
06:44because with all goals we have to ask
06:47ourselves are we trying to learn how to
06:48do something new or are we trying to
06:51withhold a certain set of actions and of
06:53course any time we learn anything it's a
06:55process of both generating and
06:57withholding certain actions so we've got
07:00the amydala and we have the basil
07:01ganglia which has this go action
07:04initiating and no go action withholding
07:06circuitry within it and then there's the
07:08lateral prefrontal cortex which is
07:10involved in immediate and long-term
07:12planning and this is going to be a key
07:13component of today's discussion because
07:16we aren't going to be talking about
07:17lateral prefrontal cortex per se but we
07:19are going to be talking about time
07:21perception in the context of setting and
07:23achieving our goals because setting and
07:26achieving our goals is all about being
07:28able to orient both in space knowing
07:30where we are and what we're doing but
07:31also in time know where we are in that
07:34road of progress toward achieving our
07:36goal or crossing that finish line and
07:38repeatedly updating those Finish Lines
07:40in many cases and the fourth structure
07:43is the orbital frontal cortex which like
07:46all brain areas tends to be a
07:47multitasker it does a bunch of different
07:49things but for sake of today's
07:50discussion it's important to understand
07:52that the orbital frontal cortex is
07:54involved in evaluation of our current
07:57emotional state and arousal state
07:59as it relates to our goal Pursuit for
08:01instance are we happy because we are
08:04sensing progress or are we unhappy and
08:07feeling frustrated or sad or angry
08:09because we are feeling that we are not
08:11achieving progress or that somehow we
08:13can't get into the sorts of actions that
08:15are going to allow us to eventually
08:17reach our goals okay so I described four
08:19major structures all of which
08:20communicate with each other and of
08:22course a lot of other brain areas and
08:24those four structures were the amydala
08:25the basil ganglia the go and no-o
08:28circuitry the lateral prefrontal cortex
08:30and the orbital frontal cortex and those
08:32represent the core components of the
08:34neural circuitry involved in goal
08:36setting and pursuit now I realize I
08:39didn't time that section so I don't know
08:40whether or not it was 3 minutes or less
08:42but if it was shorter than 3 minutes
08:45great and if it was longer than 3
08:46minutes well I promise to shave a couple
08:48minutes off the end of this episode okay
08:50so now you have the understanding that
08:52we all have the same neural circuitry
08:54for goal setting and pursuit I find that
08:56amazing regardless of whether or not you
08:58want to achieve a fit Fitness goal or an
09:00academic goal or a work goal monetary
09:01goal relationship goal maybe you want to
09:03just get better at relaxing I've been
09:05told I should perhaps pursue that goal
09:08well you're going to use the same neural
09:10circuits for each and any of those I
09:13find that incredible I also find that
09:15very reassuring because what it means is
09:17that if we can focus on the tools and
09:19protocols that are anchored in the
09:22biology of goal setting and pursuit as
09:24we understand them to exist in all
09:26humans and indeed in other animals as
09:28well well then we should have the
09:30greatest possible confidence that we
09:32will in fact achieve our goals so how do
09:34we go about doing that well the first
09:36question you need to ask yourself is
09:38what goal do I want to pursue and the
09:41first protocol for deciding what goal
09:44you want to pursue is actually a quite
09:46simple one in terms of How It's stated
09:48but it's fairly complex for a lot of
09:50people to answer and that is which
09:53specific goal are you going to try and
09:55pursue because guess what folks most
09:58people who trying to achieve many goals
10:01simultaneously fail at all of them this
10:04is what I call the overhaul approach
10:06when people think okay you know in
10:08January 1 or next month or next week or
10:10perhaps even today I'm going to start
10:13exercising I'm going to start meditating
10:15I'm going to learn a language I'm going
10:16to learn to dance I'm going to do all
10:18these different things and that's just
10:20too many goals I think here is an
10:23appropriate place to highlight the word
10:25priority a priority literally means one
10:28thing that you place ahead of all others
10:30these days we hear a lot about
10:32priorities plural but we really should
10:35be thinking about priority and defining
10:37our priority for learning in a given
10:40phase so if you are somebody who wants
10:42to get more physically fit or you want
10:43to learn something cognitively that's
10:44terrific you are allowed to have
10:46multiple goals but I highly recommend
10:49that you first select just one goal of
10:52course you don't let go of other aspects
10:54of your mental health and physical
10:56health that you don't throw your life
10:57away in service to this one goal goal
10:59we've all seen how that goes and it's
11:01not a britty picture but rather that you
11:04continue to engage in healthy ways with
11:06the other aspects of your life that
11:08you're proficient at or mostly
11:09proficient at but that you select one
11:12goal that you're going to try and attain
11:14how you select that one goal of course
11:16it's going to reflect your values your
11:18motivation your resources but it's very
11:21important that you spend some serious
11:22time defining that one priority that one
11:25goal for this initial goal setting and
11:29Pursuit period and in a moment I'll tell
11:31you how long that goal Pursuit period
11:33ought to be but for some people the best
11:36way to define which goal they're going
11:38to pursue is to write out the different
11:40things that they want and then
11:41essentially cross off the various things
11:44that they're willing to put on hold for
11:45the time being and circle the thing that
11:47they're really going to focus on and
11:49only that thing and again this is highly
11:51individual it's going to depend on you
11:53your past your present your future your
11:54resources all of that but having that
11:57one priority is is going to really
12:00increase the probability that you're
12:01going to achieve your goal now we also
12:04know from the scientific literature that
12:06how lofty that goal is will impact
12:08whether or not you are able to achieve
12:10it and I think most people mistakenly
12:13believe that if a goal is easy to
12:15achieve it's more likely that they will
12:16achieve that goal sort of a duh but in
12:19fact the opposite has been shown to be
12:21true if a goal is too easy to achieve it
12:24seems that it doesn't recruit sufficient
12:27amounts of the arousal Network that
12:29involves the amydala but a bunch of
12:30other brain structures as well that get
12:33people into the necessary actions to
12:36continually pursue that goal this
12:38perhaps should not be surprising in
12:40order to learn something we have to
12:42shift our nervous system into states
12:44that are somewhat uncomfortable these
12:46should be safely uncomfortable States
12:49but they should be uncomfortable States
12:50and we're going to talk more about this
12:52as the episode continues but any kind of
12:55successful learning or goal Pursuit is
12:57going to involve errors it's it's going
12:59to involve failures it's going to
13:00involve frustration it's going to
13:02involve anxiety all of those states of
13:05Mind and Body in fact shift the brain
13:08into modes of so-called neuroplasticity
13:11they give it the ability to change and
13:13that should make perfect sense because
13:15if you can complete what you need to do
13:16easily there's absolutely no reason for
13:19the neural circuitry in your brain or
13:21body to shift in any way why would it
13:23rather those states of discomfort
13:26frustration anxiety Etc
13:29represent shifts in neurochemical states
13:32that literally open the opportunity for
13:34neuroplasticity to occur the changes
13:37between neurons that allow those neurons
13:39and their Associated neural circuits to
13:41perform differently in the future when
13:43we learn something so the key here is
13:46twofold first Define the specific
13:48priority goal that you're going to
13:50pursue and set aside all other goal
13:52Pursuits and in doing that it makes
13:55sense to pursue a somewhat loftier goal
13:58than perhaps a more mundane goal or if
14:01you know exactly what goal you're going
14:03to prioritize that you try and Achieve
14:06perhaps more than you think you ought to
14:08be able to achieve within that given
14:10goal and within the goal that you decide
14:12to prioritize you want to set a level of
14:15progress a level of performance that
14:17you're striving to attain that's a bit
14:19above what you actually believe at this
14:21time you can accomplish now in doing so
14:24you are inevitably going to encounter
14:26some frustration and anxiety but
14:28remember the component of the neural
14:29circuitry that we talked about at the
14:31beginning of the episode the orbital
14:32frontal cortex that orbital frontal
14:34cortex is not just part of a neural
14:36circuitry that assesses how we feel in a
14:38given moment as we are trying to pursue
14:40a goal but it also understands context
14:44it has the capacity to for instance see
14:48that you are experiencing anxiety know
14:51that you are frustrated but now that you
14:54understand that anxiety and frustration
14:56that comes with making errors is
14:58actually the Gateway it's a necessary
15:00gateway to achieving neural circuit
15:03neuroplasticity well the orbital frontal
15:05cortex understands that context it
15:07literally can take information about
15:09neuroplasticity it can take information
15:11about frustration which you now have and
15:14it can combine those such that when you
15:16experience that frustration you
15:17experience those errors and you
15:20previously would have wanted to quit now
15:22you know that you are literally making
15:24progress you're literally shifting those
15:26neural circuits in the direction of
15:28improved learning now it's also
15:30important to remind that neuroplasticity
15:33the changes in neural circuits that
15:34allow for improved performance in the
15:36future does not occur instantaneously
15:39that frustration that occurs during our
15:41attempts to learn or to pursue a goal is
15:43the trigger for neuroplasticity the
15:44actual rewiring of neural circuits that
15:46allows for proficient correct
15:49performance occurs during deep sleep and
15:52other forms of deep rest this is
15:54something I've covered extensively in
15:56episodes on neuroplasticity and learning
15:58and if you you'd like to learn more
15:59about neuroplasticity in fact if you'd
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16:03the so-called super protocol for
16:05neuroplasticity and learning that is not
16:07just nested within the context of goal
16:09Pursuit and learning we have that you
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16:20PDF okay so returning to goal setting
16:22and pursuit first you need to set your
16:24goal you really should take the time
16:26required to Define your priority what
16:29are you going to try and learn and then
16:31you're going to pick a goal that really
16:33feels challenging that feels like it
16:35might even be Out Of Reach because that
16:37will recruit the neural circuits
16:39associated with arousal they're
16:41motivating enough to get you into action
16:44now I want to be very clear I'm not
16:46suggesting that you pick a goal that's
16:48impossible to achieve or that you
16:49believe is impossible to achieve that's
16:50not going to serve you well rather I'm
16:52saying pick a goal that feels just a bit
16:55Out Of Reach and don't obsess too much
16:56about whether or not it's a lot out of
16:58reach or a little bit Out Of Reach pick
17:00something you're excited to pursue that
17:01you would really like to accomplish set
17:04that goal and then just set aside all
17:06other goals still of course maintain or
17:09improve other aspects of your life that
17:10are necessary for daily living for
17:12mental health physical health Etc but
17:15really just focus on one goal I promise
17:18that you will be far more satisfied with
17:20the results if you can truly set a
17:22priority so once you've defined the
17:24specific goal that you are going to
17:26prioritize there are two more things
17:28things that you need to do before you
17:30start to pursue that goal the first one
17:32is that you need to define the specific
17:35verbs the actions that are involved in
17:38pursuing that goal this is absolutely
17:40critical a lot of people will set a sort
17:43of title goal or a goal State they'll
17:46say oh you know I want to be rich or I
17:49want to be smart or they will say I want
17:51to be fit or proficient in a given
17:53language it's really important that you
17:56put additional specificity on your goal
17:59in fact it's important that you put a
18:01lot of specificity on your goal and that
18:02you focus mainly on verbs when defining
18:06that specificity now there are a lot of
18:08reasons for this that have to do both
18:10with increasing the probability that you
18:12will achieve your goal as well as
18:14maintaining motivation as you pursue
18:17that goal so for instance rather than
18:19saying you want to be fit or you want to
18:21be a better Runner or swimmer you would
18:24want to get very specific about the verb
18:27that you're going to engage in order to
18:29achieve that goal now it's somewhat
18:31obvious in the case of running or
18:32swimming I think everyone understands
18:34that if you want to be a better Runner
18:36there is going to be some running
18:37involved if you want to be a better
18:38swimmer there's going to be some
18:39swimming involved of course but
18:42presumably there will be some other
18:43behaviors as well everything from
18:45driving to the pool or lacing up your
18:48shoes I mean there's an essentially near
18:50infinite number of verbs involved in any
18:53type of goal Pursuit so what we are
18:54talking about here is really defining
18:57the goal on a piece of paper and I do
18:59think that's important you should write
19:00this down and I think the process of
19:02selecting your goal that priority as
19:05well as defining the specificity of the
19:07verb action that you're going to pursue
19:09should be done on paper you of course
19:10are going to think but then you should
19:11write it out seeing things on paper and
19:14writing them out by hand with pen or
19:15pencil really has been shown to engage
19:18neural circuitry in a way that is
19:19different than typing with your thumbs
19:22into your phone which by the way is a
19:24new feature of human evolution I do
19:25believe this is the first time in human
19:27evolution that we have written with our
19:30thumbs I don't know I don't have a time
19:32machine I can't go back and check but
19:33I'm willing to place a bet that that
19:36statement is correct so the point is
19:38that writing things out is not only
19:40important it's also the most effective
19:42way to embed knowledge in our nervous
19:44system so I highly recommend that you
19:46write things out on a piece of paper in
19:49your process of goal setting so when we
19:51are talking about generating verb
19:53specificity about your goal it would
19:56look like the following so let's say I
19:57want to to quote unquote get more fit or
20:01learn conversational French or anything
20:03for that matter gardening maybe I want
20:06to build a gazebo in the backyard or a
20:08deck in the backyard the key thing to
20:10answer is what is the major block of
20:13action that's going to be involved in
20:15pursuing that goal so for instance if
20:17you want to get more fit and you're
20:18going to do that primarily through
20:20running and weight training or swimming
20:21and weight training you would want to
20:23get very specific in defining that
20:25priority goal as I'm going to run X
20:28number of miles per week or I'm going to
20:32go to the gym three times per week to
20:34lift weights although I would recommend
20:36getting even more specific than that I
20:38would recommend that you literally write
20:40down I'm going to go to the gym three
20:42times per week for a minimum of 60
20:45minutes where 50 minutes of that are
20:48carrying out hard work okay with of
20:51course rest between sets Etc or I'm
20:53going to attend three classes per week
20:56or perhaps even just one class per week
20:58of learning conversational French plus
21:02I'm going to spend two hours per week of
21:05practicing say word problems or
21:08mathematical problems whatever it is you
21:10want to Define first the priority then
21:12you want to define the verb action that
21:14represents the bulk of effort towards
21:16that priority so running in the case of
21:18the person who wants to get fit by
21:20running weightlifting in the case of the
21:22person that wants to get fit by
21:23weightlifting though of course I highly
21:25recommend people do both resistance
21:27training and uh cardiovascular training
21:29if indeed they want to be truly fit or
21:31in the case of language learning or
21:33learning how to code or gardening or
21:34something of that sort to really Define
21:36the verb actions involved and then to
21:39place specificity in terms of the amount
21:41of time that one is going to try to
21:44achieve each week in pursuit of that
21:47specific priority goal now I realize
21:50that that process itself takes a bit of
21:51time but when you look back on the
21:54100-year plus scientific literature of
21:56what leads to success uccessful goal
21:58setting and pursuit you find over and
22:01over again that those two components
22:03we've been talking about specificity and
22:05measurability are Paramount you just
22:07simply cannot discard those from the
22:09process if you expect yourself to
22:12achieve your goals so whether or not
22:14it's the ABC method or it's the smart
22:15method or the smarter method again all
22:17acronyms coined not by me but by others
22:20previous to this conversation you're
22:22going to find elements of specificity
22:24and measurability showing up again and
22:26again so these are key features of any
22:28protocol that you are going to use in
22:31order to try and set and achieve your
22:33goals and I should mention that setting
22:36specific goals and clearly defining the
22:39verbs that you're are going to engage in
22:40to pursue those goals and defining how
22:42long you are going to try and engage in
22:44those verbs each week to achieve those
22:47goals has significant impact on the
22:50probability of success we're not talking
22:52about a minor effect in fact in the
22:54original episode I did about goal
22:56setting and pursuit I talked about the
22:58so-called recycling study I'm not going
23:00to describe it in a lot of detail right
23:01now but essentially this study looked at
23:04motivating people to recycle more
23:06recyclable products in the workplace and
23:08what they found was that when people
23:10were told what the specific goal was and
23:13what specific actions they needed to
23:15engage in were and how much of a given
23:19batch of refu so say you know after
23:21lunch there's some boxes or some Forks
23:22Etc some napkins how much of that refu
23:26they were going to try to put into the
23:28recycle versus the trash it led to a
23:31greater than doubling of successful
23:34achievement of that goal now that's a
23:36perhaps trivial goal to some of you
23:37although let's face it recycling is
23:39important but that result has been shown
23:42again and again and again for different
23:44domains of goal setting and pursuit so
23:46this thing of setting specificity really
23:49spending time with it on paper setting
23:51specificity of actions of which specific
23:53actions and then setting specificity of
23:55how long you are going to engage in each
23:57of those actions each week greatly
23:59increases the probability that you will
24:02achieve that what previously seemed to
24:04be a all too lofty goal earlier I
24:07mentioned that during the course of
24:08today's episode we were going to dispel
24:10some common myths about goal setting and
24:13pursuit so now I'd like to mention two
24:16popular myths about goal setting and
24:18pursuit the first one is that if we set
24:22a Post-It you know a little Post-it
24:24sticky where you write down what you're
24:26trying to achieve and you put that on
24:27the refrigerator or you put that on your
24:29mirror that it increases the probability
24:32that you are going to stick to your goal
24:35turns out that is not the case and the
24:37reason for that is that your visual
24:38system adapts to whatever is regular in
24:40your environment doesn't matter whether
24:43or not that environment is sparse so it
24:46only has a few things in it or whether
24:48or not it is dense like a forest
24:51anything that shows up regularly in our
24:53visual environment gets canceled out
24:55this is actually a basic feature of the
24:58way your visual system is wired so for
25:00those of you that are taking a sticky
25:02note or a magnet or a sign and putting
25:04it on your mirror and leaving it there
25:06from day to day maybe that says you know
25:08run 60 minutes today or study French 20
25:12minutes or whatever the goal happens to
25:14be if you leave it there day today today
25:18it actually diminishes the likelihood of
25:21progress I know that seems kind of hard
25:23to believe but it's true instead a
25:26better approach is is to continually
25:29write that thing out each day and put up
25:31a new sticky put it in a new place
25:33perhaps on the refrigerator sometimes in
25:35the kitchen maybe on the windshield of
25:36your car although of course remove that
25:38while you're driving Etc if you are
25:40going to incorporate visual reminders in
25:42your goal setting and goal Pursuit
25:44process you want to change those each
25:46and every day this is actually something
25:48that uh perhaps app developers will
25:50start to incorporate because I think the
25:52notifications that come through on
25:54various apps designed to remind us to do
25:56certain things can be helpful but there
25:58too we tend to attenuate to them and we
26:02simply either do not notice them or we
26:03start to swipe them away over time so
26:06visual reminders can be very effective
26:08if you want to use them great you
26:09certainly don't have to but if you're
26:11going to use them you want to update
26:13them every single day otherwise your
26:15visual system and certainly the areas of
26:17your brain that are associated with
26:18assessing novelty and emotionality will
26:20simply start to cancel those away so the
26:23first common myth that we're dispelling
26:25is what I call the poit fallacy the the
26:27idea that if you write something down on
26:29a Post-It and you post it in an area
26:30that you frequent every morning or every
26:32day or every night that you stand a
26:34higher probability of adhering to what
26:36is on that Post-it that is simply not
26:38true you would want to replace it every
26:39day and you would also be wise to move
26:42that Post-it to different locations the
26:44second myth is that if you want to
26:47increase your motivation toward pursuing
26:49a goal and you want to increase the
26:51probability that you will achieve that
26:53goal that you should engage in so-called
26:56accountability meaning that you should
26:58tell people you are going to achieve
27:01that goal now I realize that there are
27:03some prominent examples in pop culture
27:06of people posting something on social
27:08media and saying you know in three years
27:10I'm going to be you know playing in
27:11Wembley Stadium or in two years watch
27:14I'm going to be at the top level of my
27:16game whatever that game happens to be
27:18sure there are examples of that and
27:21those are beautiful and inspiring
27:23examples however the scientific data
27:25tell us that if we inform people around
27:28us that for instance we are going to
27:30write a book or that we're going to
27:32start a podcast or that we are going to
27:34run a marathon or whatever it happens to
27:36be more often than not we get feedback
27:40that is generally positive inform I
27:43think that's good and to be expected
27:45frankly you know if a friend tells us
27:46hey I'm going to write a book or I'm
27:47going to pursue a new fitness goal or
27:49I'm going to learn a language we say
27:51great go for it you can totally do it
27:52you're very likely to succeed go for it
27:56how do you want me to support you as a
27:57there anything I can do to support you
27:59those all are frankly healthy exchanges
28:02and yet the data tell us that the
28:05positive feedback that we get from
28:07others when we announce that we're going
28:09after a goal activate certain reward
28:12systems and motivation systems within
28:14our brain that then quickly dissipate
28:17and then diminish the probability that
28:18we'll engage in the type of behaviors
28:21that actually lead us to achieve that
28:22goal so we have the posit fallacy and we
28:25have the myth of accountability fallacy
28:28within the context of goal Pursuit I of
28:31course am not saying that accountability
28:33is bad to the contrary accountability is
28:35a great thing both to ourselves and to
28:37others it's something that we should all
28:38cultivate throughout life I'm merely
28:41talking about the myth of accountability
28:42in the context of goal Pursuit and I'm
28:44actually being more specific than that
28:46I'm saying don't tell people that you're
28:48going to go out and Achieve something
28:50prior to initiating action toward that
28:53goal because in fact the positive
28:55feedback that we get will diminish the
28:57probability that we will continually
28:59pursue that goal in a way that allows us
29:02to achieve it so you could interpret the
29:04information I just gave you as meaning
29:06that perhaps it's better to tell someone
29:09who doubts us that we are going to
29:10achieve a goal and then of course
29:12they're not going to give us the
29:13positive feedback we're not going to get
29:15all that reward circuitry activated
29:16rather we're going to get the uh
29:18friction circuitry activated of us
29:21wanting to prove ourselves and overcome
29:24the uh let's just say the lack of faith
29:26in our ability to achieve a goal and
29:28indeed that can work there is evidence
29:30that can work but then of course you
29:33have to find someone who doesn't believe
29:34in you you have to get them to tell you
29:36they don't believe in you and that could
29:38have all sorts of delerious
29:39psychological effects that might
29:40undermine the goal Pursuit process and
29:42other things as well so if you are lucky
29:44enough to know somebody who doubts you
29:46go ahead tell them that you want to
29:47pursue your specific priority goal but
29:50more likely than not the best thing to
29:53do is to Simply keep that goal to
29:55yourself you may need to inform a family
29:57member or others of you know where you
29:59will be between the hours of say 8:00
30:00a.m. and 9:00 a.m. if you're going to be
30:02exercising or learning language or
30:03meditating whatever it is during that
30:05period of time but what I'm referring to
30:07here is what I will call the don't tell
30:09the world rule don't tell the world that
30:11you're going to achieve X Y or Z just
30:13simply tell yourself in fact I would
30:16suggest that the more time you can spend
30:18with that one or two or three sheets of
30:20paper where you defined the goal the
30:22specific actions that you're going to
30:24take how you're going to measure
30:26progress which we'll talk about bit more
30:28later the more time that you can spend
30:30with that goal in your mind and on that
30:33paper the higher the probability that
30:35you will achieve that goal that stands
30:37in start contrast to telling everyone
30:39around you that you're going to achieve
30:40a certain goal the so-called
30:41accountability myth or the myth of
30:42accountability within the context of
30:44goal Pursuit would be the more specific
30:46way uh to describe that myth now it
30:49turns out there is some utility to
30:50having one person that is a so-called
30:53accountability buddy if that person is
30:56really just L addressing accountability
30:59they are reminding you to do what you
31:01need to do or they are asking you did
31:03you do what you said you were going to
31:05do but that's a bit more of a tough love
31:07accountability model what the don't tell
31:09the world rule is really about is not
31:12getting the kind of dopamine and other
31:14forms of neurochemical reward that come
31:15from just simply saying that you're
31:17going to pursue a goal because as you'll
31:18soon learn that dopamine and other
31:21molecules too of course are going to be
31:23critically important not just for
31:25initiating the sorts of actions re IR
31:27ired to achieve your goals but for
31:30re-engaging and constantly updating your
31:32strategy to ensure that you reach your
31:34goals it's worth mentioning that the
31:37friction model of achieving your goals
31:39does work I mean I for instance am
31:41somebody that if you know I were to say
31:43to a family member or friend hey I'm
31:44going to achieve a particular goal and
31:46they said no there's no way you can do
31:48it that would recruit a certain set of
31:50neural circuits and uh hormones and
31:52neurochemicals in me that would make me
31:54much more likely to lean into the
31:57required set of efforts to achieve that
31:59goal but there's a danger in approaching
32:01a given goal that way especially if the
32:03goal is something that you already want
32:05to pursue which is that then a lot of
32:07your effort becomes framed in the
32:10context of making someone else wrong as
32:13opposed to achieving the goal and of
32:14course you can do two things in parallel
32:16you can achieve your goal and prove
32:17somebody else wrong but as we've talked
32:20about in various episodes on motivation
32:22and pursuit and the dopamine system and
32:24as we'll talk about a bit more in a few
32:26minutes the there something tremendously
32:28powerful about learning how to derive
32:31pleasure from the effort process itself
32:34that is learning to enjoy the process of
32:37pursuing a goal for sake of that goal
32:39for yourself rather than trying to
32:42pursue a goal simply to prove somebody
32:44else wrong I'll just tell you right now
32:46that intrinsic motivation motivation
32:49that is directly attached to the thing
32:51that you are doing and root to a goal is
32:54the most powerful and sustainable source
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33:56goal setting because because really up
33:57until now we've been talking only about
33:59goal setting we haven't yet talked about
34:01goal Pursuit is that you want your goal
34:04to be measurable and when we say
34:06measurable you really have to Define two
34:09things first of all you are going to
34:10have to Define how long you are going to
34:13pursue this goal overall in other words
34:15how long you think it will take before
34:17you achieve your goal and in addition to
34:20that you are going to have to Define how
34:22much time you are going to spend
34:24pursuing that goal each week or each day
34:27now there are an infinite number of time
34:29blocks that one could use to answer
34:31these questions so for instance you
34:33could set an overall yearly goal and you
34:35could break it down into monthly goals
34:37where you spend x amount of time on that
34:39goal each week and x amount of time on
34:42that goal each day and essentially
34:44ladder up from the shortest time frame
34:47to the longest time frame required to
34:49achieve that goal and certainly all of
34:51that is doable but that I believe is
34:53going to be an overwhelming amount of
34:55work and indeed is going to be
34:56counterproductive toward achieving your
34:58goal what I recommend which of course is
35:01gleaned from the scientific literature
35:02at least the consistencies or the center
35:04of mass that is the major findings that
35:08show up again and again in the
35:09scientific literature on goal setting a
35:11Pursuit is that you establish a roughly
35:1512 week period of time to focus on your
35:18specific goal now of course achieving
35:21the entire goal might take longer than
35:2212 weeks but chances are it's not going
35:25to take shorter than 12 weeks although
35:27if it does you could simply close out
35:29that goal Pursuit and then pursue
35:31another goal there's no reason you
35:33couldn't do that but there's nothing
35:35magical about this 12-week period but it
35:38seems to adhere to a number of things in
35:40society and culture in work schedules in
35:43seasonality meaning the holidays and the
35:46shifts in the overall Seasons that works
35:48for most goals and most people so a
35:5112-week cycle or roughly a thre month
35:54cycle sometimes called the quarterly
35:56cycle of goal Pursuit toward your
35:58particular goal I think is a good macro
36:01time to focus on and then within that
36:0512we cycle to Define very clearly how
36:08many hours each week and each day and on
36:11which days you will pursue that goal
36:14okay so it's 12-week cycle to pursue
36:16your goal that goal might be achieved by
36:18the end of that 12 weeks or even prior
36:20it might not be but you said a 12we
36:22cycle or quarterly cycle or if you
36:24prefer to think about it a 3 month cycle
36:28and then you define how many hours per
36:30week you are going to spend pursuing
36:31that goal and then you define how many
36:33hours per day you are going to spend
36:36pursuing that goal and then you define
36:39which days of the week you are going to
36:41pursue that particular goal I think
36:44those three numbers the 12-week
36:46quarterly AKA 3-mth cycle the number of
36:49hours per week and the number of hours
36:51per day and particular days that you're
36:54going to spend working on a goal is
36:56going to be effective for 90% if not
36:59more of different types of goals out
37:01there and as with defining the specific
37:03goal itself I highly recommend that you
37:05write this down with a pen or pencil
37:08there's just oh so much data to support
37:10the fact that writing things down
37:11ideally in complete sentences on a piece
37:13of paper with a pen or pencil serves to
37:15reinforce the goal setting and pursuit
37:17process greatly increasing the
37:19probability that you will achieve those
37:21goals so what you're really defining in
37:23that process are the specific verb
37:26action that you are going to take and
37:28the specific quantifiable amount of time
37:32that you are engaging in those verb
37:33actions in order to achieve your goal
37:36what we haven't discussed yet however is
37:38how to define or quantify the goal
37:41itself now of course in different
37:43Endeavors you're going to have the
37:44opportunity to quantify and Define goal
37:48achievement in different ways so for
37:49instance if you want to be able to run a
37:53sub six-minute mile or a sub five minute
37:57or if you're really impressive a sub
37:59four minute mile well that's a highly
38:01quantifiable goal that you can break
38:02down into a series of training steps or
38:05Milestones meaning that you could
38:07quantify at the beginning of your goal
38:08Pursuit how long it takes you to run a
38:10mile you could then set out to achieve a
38:15faster time within two weeks or three
38:17weeks and then do the appropriate
38:18training to achieve those numbers and
38:20simply keep updating that in order to
38:22eventually reach your quantifiable goal
38:25at 12 weeks again you might not complete
38:28your goal of running a sub five minute
38:30mile or sub six minute mile at the end
38:32of 12 weeks but perhaps if your goal is
38:34to be able to run a sub five minute mile
38:36by the end of the calendar year and
38:38you're initiating this whole goal
38:40Pursuit thing on the first of the year
38:42well then you have 12 months broken into
38:44four 3month cycles and you would
38:46essentially set the quantifiable goal at
38:48the end of the year December 31st
38:50perhaps is when you actually do that run
38:52um where you hopefully would achieve
38:55that sub 6 minute or 5 minute mile or
38:57maybe even 4 minute mile and then you
39:00backtrack from that date and you set
39:02Milestones of goals that you're trying
39:04to achieve that's a highly quantifiable
39:06set of goals because it is literally
39:08distance Over time however in a lot of
39:11Pursuits in fact I would argue in most
39:14Pursuits you don't have that very clear
39:18quantifiable result you might have for
39:20instance the achievement of a doctoral
39:22degree or a bachelor's degree or an AA
39:24degree or a professional degree of some
39:26sort which represents a Finish Line um
39:29you could perhaps even attach a gray
39:31point average or a publication goal to
39:34that but in most Endeavors that aren't
39:37athletic or aren't within the realm of
39:39Finance it becomes much harder to very
39:42clearly Define your goal in purely
39:45quantitative terms so that is the reason
39:48why we spent so much time talking about
39:50the measurability of the specific amount
39:53of time that you're going to engage in
39:55the verb actions that each day which
39:58days each week over the course of these
40:0112we Cycles because ultimately what's
40:04going to allow you to arrive at
40:06successful achievement of your goal
40:08regardless of whether or not that goal
40:10is highly quantifiable X number of
40:12dollars X number of minutes to complete
40:18Etc or it's something that's a bit more
40:21nebulous in terms of quantifiability
40:23like conversational French right there's
40:25conversational French that you can learn
40:27there's also conversational French that
40:29incorporates humor or that incorporates
40:32Good Humor or um perhaps you want to get
40:34better at writing poetry or simply spend
40:36time writing poetry can you quantify the
40:39quality of that poetry well perhaps uh
40:41you know if you could win a particular
40:43prize for poetry but I think for most
40:45Endeavors they are more Loosely defined
40:48in terms of their quantifiability now we
40:51can always attach quantifiability to the
40:53ultimate end goal if we choose so for
40:57I could decide that I'm going to learn
40:58conversational French and I could decide
41:01that the ultimate goal at the end of
41:03this 12we period is to be able to have a
41:0610-minute conversation with somebody who
41:08is fluent in French they're native born
41:10in France and that I'm going to make
41:12zero mistakes that's a pretty lofty goal
41:15but the point being that if you are
41:18picking a goal that is not easily
41:20quantifiable you want to be
41:22exceptionally precise about the amount
41:24of time that you are going to spend in
41:26engaging in the specific verb actions
41:28that are going to allow you to make
41:30progress toward your goal because
41:31ultimately whether or not it's a highly
41:32quantifiable goal or it's a more Loosely
41:35quantifiable goal in terms of the end
41:37goal the process of achieving goals is
41:40always going to be in the form of
41:42actions and actions themselves are
41:44always quantifiable it's number of hours
41:46of dedicated work toward that particular
41:49goal a common example of an end goal
41:51that's very hard to quantify in terms of
41:53the end goal itself is the writing of a
41:56book book for instance now you could set
41:57out to write an 800 page book but most
42:00people agree that the length of the book
42:01should have something more or less to do
42:03with the content and not the other way
42:05around in other words that you don't
42:06just want to add words in order to
42:08achieve a certain number of pages that
42:10said most all experienced writers will
42:13tell you at least two things they'll
42:15tell you first don't wait for
42:17inspiration simply set a period of time
42:20each day that you're going to write and
42:22write X number of words or for x amount
42:25of time each each day or perhaps even
42:27just three days a week but most of the
42:29experienced writers that I've spoken to
42:30write every single day and they write
42:32800 words per day or 2,000 words per day
42:35or 500 words per day whatever they can
42:37do consistently they may do it for time
42:40they may do it for words but they are
42:41writing during that time they are not
42:43waiting for inspiration to land on them
42:45they're not trying to get optimally
42:47caffeinated and perhaps they didn't even
42:49sleep that well the night before in
42:50other words they are dedicated to
42:52engaging in a particular number of hours
42:55of word generating action rather than
42:58trying to focus on getting the number
42:59one best seller at the end after the
43:02book is published of course they can
43:03wish for that number one position on the
43:05bestseller chart But ultimately the
43:08greatest probability of achieving that
43:10goal is going to come from engaging in a
43:13particular number of hours generating a
43:15particular number of words each day so
43:17again the highest probability of
43:19achieving our goals of achieving any
43:21kind of goal is going to be by
43:23understanding the specific verb actions
43:25that we need to engage in and then
43:27quantifying the amount of time that we
43:29engage in those specific word actions
43:31and then simply doing those verbs so up
43:35until now we've been talking about goal
43:36setting and we really haven't talked
43:38about goal Pursuit itself so now I'd
43:40like to talk about what the scientific
43:42literature says is the best protocol for
43:45initiating our goal Pursuit for starting
43:48toward our goal and to do so we have to
43:51address a set of key questions the
43:53questions you have to ask yourself are
43:55do I do I want to pursue this goal
43:57meaning am I highly motivated to pursue
43:59this goal or even mildly motivated to
44:01pursue this goal do I want to do the
44:03things involved to get this thing to
44:06accomplish this thing or am I feeling
44:08resistance do I not want to pursue this
44:11goal or perhaps this is a daytoday shift
44:14that occurs where some days you're
44:16really motivated and other days you are
44:18not now the reason to ask yourself the
44:20set of questions is that the data say
44:22that there are two different strategies
44:24in fact two markedly different
44:26strategies that you'll want to
44:27incorporate depending on whether or not
44:29you're motivated or you are unmotivated
44:32to pursue that particular goal for
44:33whatever reason and of course there's an
44:35entire psychology to motivation and you
44:37could get a therapist or a coach to work
44:39with in order to address that underlying
44:41psychology yes it might ladder back to
44:43Childhood issues it might ladder back to
44:45esteem things none of that can be
44:48covered here in any sort of meaningful
44:50depth because frankly we each have
44:52different circumstances different pasts
44:54different psychologies there are however
44:57some universals that we can all apply in
44:59order to help us get started toward our
45:02goal and this is nested in this whole
45:05concept of whether or not we should
45:06visualize the end and successful
45:09completion of our goal so keep the end
45:11in mind as we start off toward a goal or
45:14whether or not we should incorporate a
45:15different strategy here's how it goes so
45:19yourself do I want to achieve this goal
45:23and I would hope the answer is yes
45:24because the overall goal should be
45:26something that you want to pursue it
45:27should be something that you are deeply
45:29Desiring to accomplish then you have to
45:33ask yourself next do I want to do the
45:35things required to achieve that goal now
45:38maybe you don't want to do all of them
45:39you only want to do some of them but
45:42given that you've now carefully
45:43Quantified which specific actions you're
45:45going to be doing on which days and for
45:46how many hours and how many weeks for
45:48these 12we blocks you could simply ask
45:50yourself you do I want to do this thing
45:52today and if the answer is yes well then
45:57it turns out that spending just one to
45:59three maybe five minutes but even just
46:02one minute visualizing the outcome the
46:06positive outcome of course and the
46:07feeling state that you may have because
46:10of course you don't know you don't have
46:11a uh time machine you can't feel
46:14yourself into the future but you can
46:16make a good guess as to how you might
46:18feel in the future if you accomplish
46:19that goal spending one to three maybe
46:22five minutes in a sort of meditation
46:24although sort of a visualiz a is perhaps
46:26the better way to describe it thinking
46:28about that feeling State and the outcome
46:30and some of the things that are going to
46:32be associated with that outcome turns
46:34out to be a great practice to engage in
46:36just prior to initiating that day's work
46:38toward that goal however if you arrive
46:41to your practice meaning you show up to
46:43the piano to learn piano or you're
46:45sitting down to the table or maybe you
46:46haven't even gotten enough motivation to
46:49go toward the piano or toward your
46:50notebook or computer or whatever
46:52landscape it is that you are going to be
46:54uh pursuing your goal with in and you
46:56are having quote unquote a hard time
46:59getting motivated toward that goal well
47:01then it turns out what the scientific
47:03literature tells us is that visualizing
47:06the end keeping the end in mind positive
47:09visualization of all the good things
47:11that you'll experience when you achieve
47:12that goal is not going to be an
47:15effective strategy to motivate you
47:17rather if you are not feeling motivated
47:20then what the scientific literature
47:22tells us is that you actually want to
47:24spend one to three maybe 5 minutes
47:27visualizing failure visualizing how
47:30terrible you will feel if you do not
47:31achieve your goal visualizing severe
47:34consequences perhaps mostly of the sort
47:36like telling yourself gosh I set a goal
47:39I set a 12we block I quantify it I know
47:42I want to do this here I have the time
47:44to do it and I'm simply just not doing
47:46it and in that case you would think okay
47:49well you should kind of build yourself
47:51up maybe call a friend text a friend get
47:52some encouragement no the scientific
47:55literat tells us that when we are not
47:57motivated and it is a goal that we
47:58actually want to pursue and of course
48:00here I'm talking about adaptive goal
48:02Pursuit meaning things that are going to
48:03enrich your mental health physical
48:05health Etc not things that are going to
48:07be detrimental to us well then if you're
48:10not feeling motivated you want to spend
48:12one to three perhaps five minutes
48:14meditating concentrating on what it's
48:18going to feel like to fail and the fact
48:20that you are not succeeding but indeed
48:23that you are failing and I I know this
48:25sounds like rather harsh advice that
48:28this protocol uh sounds like kind of a
48:30self- flatulating protocol it's not
48:32intended to be self flatulation in fact
48:34it should not be self flatulation but
48:37rather what you want to do when you are
48:38not motivated is to think about failure
48:41and what that failure at the end of 12
48:43weeks will feel like and the reason for
48:46that is that the data tell us that when
48:48we visualize positive outcomes yes it
48:51deploys certain neurochemicals in our
48:53brain and body that make us feel good
48:56although frankly if you've heard that
48:58imagining something creates the same
49:00neurochemical and neuros circuit states
49:02in the brain as actually experiencing
49:04that thing that is simply not true
49:05that's a myth we've talked about this in
49:07previous episodes that's simply not true
49:09but if you are having a hard time
49:12getting motivated toward a goal that you
49:14actually want to achieve then spending
49:17that short amount of time thinking about
49:20how lousy you'll feel when you don't
49:21achieve it recruits certain elements of
49:24your so-called autonomic nervous system
49:25it creates shifts in the release of
49:27things like epinephrine norepinephrine
49:30even release of the so-called reward
49:33molecule dopamine which in fact is not
49:35the molecule of reward it is the
49:37molecule of motivation and it's
49:39associated with pain It's associated
49:41with negative thoughts and of course
49:43it's associated with positive thoughts
49:45and outcomes but basically what I'm
49:47saying is if you're highly motivated to
49:49do something you're ready to go spend
49:51one to three minutes maybe five
49:52visualizing the positive outcomes that
49:54you're going to EXP experience when you
49:56ultimately finish out that 12 we cycle
49:59as a consequence of all the great work
50:00that you've done if however you are not
50:03motivated you're feeling like I don't
50:04want to do this thing I'm
50:05procrastinating I'm just not feeling
50:07like doing it yes I want to achieve the
50:08goal but I just don't feel like doing it
50:09well then your task is to take one to
50:12three maybe five minutes and think about
50:14how much more lousy you will feel when
50:18you do not achieve that goal at the end
50:20of 12 weeks and that the data tell us
50:23recruit certain elements of your nervous
50:25system your hormonal system that are
50:27more successful in getting you into
50:29action into starting toward your goal
50:31than were you to try and build yourself
50:33up towards all that positivity so yes
50:35indeed there is a place for negative
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51:44in terms of tools or protocols to both
51:47initiate and to sustain effort during
51:50your goal Pursuit process we need to
51:51think about the specific time domain or
51:54the amount of time that we're trying to
51:55do that within so for instance there are
51:59tools that you can use to stay motivated
52:01within the 1hour learning block that you
52:03happen to be doing on Monday morning for
52:05instance and there are other tools and
52:06protocols that you can incorporate
52:08towards staying motivated from one day
52:10to the next or from one week to the next
52:12but I think the most useful of those
52:13tools are going to be the tools that you
52:15incorporate to stay motivated within a
52:18given training block or practice block
52:21toward your goal because what I just
52:23described a few minutes ago was the
52:24process of how to initiate your daily
52:27work right you ask yourself that
52:28question am I motivated the answer could
52:31be yes could be no if you really want to
52:33get you know uh quantitative about it
52:35you could give yourself a 1 to 10 score
52:3710 being the most motivated frankly I'm
52:39not that quantitative about that sort of
52:41thing I'm more subjective about it but I
52:42know some of you are real um number
52:44junkies and you really like to quantify
52:46everything keep a journal and look back
52:48see how that relates to your sleep you
52:49know some people are of that orientation
52:50other people like myself are simply
52:52going to you know sit down and say okay
52:54it's time it's time to train or it's
52:56time to practice whatever the thing may
52:57be how motivated am I am I a I don't
53:00know like a six out of 10 or a seven out
53:02of 10 okay I'm ready to go I'm going to
53:04visualize the end in mind in a positive
53:07way or if I'm a two out of 10 or
53:09anything less than a four out of 10 I'm
53:11thinking I'm not that motivated so then
53:13I'm going to basically scare myself into
53:15doing the work that day so that's how
53:16you initiate the work each day and I
53:18just gave you a couple of quick examples
53:19of how you could quantify that took me
53:21about 30 seconds to do that example out
53:23loud take you about 30 seconds to do but
53:26again if you want to quantify it in more
53:28detail and write it down and relate it
53:29to other things be my guest so now you
53:32already have a science based protocol
53:34for how to get started each day toward
53:36your goal now what about within the one
53:39or twoh hour block or perhaps 90-minute
53:41block that you're going to use to pursue
53:44your goal and here it's very important
53:47that you have a number of tools that
53:49will allow you to both set the optimal
53:51amount of focus so that you're really
53:53concentrating on pursuing that goal
53:56you're concentrated on the verb actions
53:58that will deliver you to that goal is
54:00perhaps the best way to state that and
54:03that you can constantly update or renew
54:06your level of focus should it start to
54:09dissipate now I want to be clear I've
54:11done entire episodes about focus and how
54:13to increase focus with behavioral tools
54:16everything related to meditation which
54:18indeed can increase your ability to
54:20focus I've talked about nutritional
54:22tools supplementation tools prescription
54:24drug related tools there's a lot of
54:25information on that you can simply go to
54:27hubman lab.com put focus into the search
54:30function and it will take you to not
54:32only those episodes and the toolkit for
54:34that but the specific timestamps for
54:36that but what we are going to talk about
54:38now is not about how to increase Focus
54:40per se rather it's about how to use
54:43focus in particular visual focus in
54:45order to increase your or maintain your
54:48level of motivation within a given
54:51learning block within a given batch of
54:53time on a given day where you are
54:55pursuing your goal you're engaging in
54:56that practice which of course will
54:58include frustration anxiety it has to if
55:01you're going to get any better and how
55:03to set that motivation and keep that
55:05motivation throughout that hour or 90
55:07minutes or two hours is critical so how
55:09do you do that well it turns out it's
55:10fairly straightforward so it's anchored
55:12in the fact that your cognitive Focus
55:15your ability to maintain a narrow cone
55:17of attention as well as your bodily
55:20state of Readiness and your mental state
55:22of Readiness to perform work is
55:25powerfully anchored to your visual
55:27system as many of you have heard me say
55:29before your eyes are actually two pieces
55:32of brain I mean to be more specific the
55:34neural retinas that line the back of
55:35your eyes like py crust are literally
55:39two pieces of your central nervous
55:40system of your brain that were extruded
55:43from the cranial Vault during
55:44development so yes these two bits and
55:46for those listening I'm just pointing to
55:48my eyes your eyes are two pieces of
55:51brain outside of your skull and your
55:53eyes can view things broadly so so you
55:55can uh so-called soften your gaze and
55:57view the entire Horizon you can see the
55:58periphery of the room by relaxing your
56:00eyes you can actually do this now in
56:02fact when you drive most of the time
56:04you're doing this you're not looking at
56:05a particular focal point you're viewing
56:07things in so-call panoramic vision and
56:09of course you can draw your visual Focus
56:11to a particular location what we call a
56:12virgin eye movement that is you're
56:15bringing your eyes in toward the center
56:17toward your nose a little bit and you're
56:18focusing them in a more narrow cone of
56:20visual attention this is something you
56:22can do almost imperceptibly to others
56:24although if we were to measure your eye
56:26movements what we would see is that your
56:28eyes are actually moving inward a little
56:30bit toward your nose when you do this
56:32virgin eye movement and narrowing that
56:34cone of visual attention and then
56:35they're you relaxing into a state of um
56:38being slightly further out from your
56:42nose not the eyes themselves of course
56:44they can't move within the sockets but
56:45you know the pupils of your eyes are
56:47moving out a bit from your nose and
56:49you're in so-called panoramic Vision so
56:51essentially what I'm saying is that you
56:53can narrow or broaden your visual
56:56attention and that's something that can
56:57take a little bit of practice I highly
56:59recommend that you try this and that you
57:00practice it a little bit but indeed
57:02everyone has the neural Machinery to do
57:04this from birth this is not something
57:06that requires neuroplasticity to be able
57:07to do you can do this right now you can
57:10narrow your visual attention you can
57:12expand or relax your visual attention
57:14and thereby narrow or relax your visual
57:17field from being smaller or larger there
57:20are data that show that when we narrow
57:23our visual attention and we hold that
57:26narrow visual tension on a spot several
57:29things happen first of all there's
57:31recruitment of circuitry within the
57:32so-called brain stem that then deploys
57:35neurochemicals that increase our level
57:38of alertness and arousal that's right
57:40when you focus your visual attension on
57:42a more narrow location or one location
57:44in front of you and you hold that
57:48Focus you are causing the release of
57:50neurochemicals that increase your
57:52overall level of alertness in the brain
57:54brain and body conversely when you relax
57:57your visual Focus so-called panoramic
58:00Vision you are turning off that
58:03recruitment you're not actively
58:05recruiting molecules for relaxation
58:07within the brain but you are turning off
58:09this release of the neurochemicals
58:12associated with increasing focus and
58:14arousal so why am I talking about this
58:16in the context of goal Pursuit well if
58:18you are feeling lack of motivation at
58:21any point within a given training block
58:23or bism calling it this could be at the
58:26beginning this could be 5 minutes in
58:28this could be half an hour in you would
58:30be wise to pick a visual Target ideally
58:33a visual Target that is within the
58:35general range of the work that you're
58:37trying to perform in other words if
58:38you're doing desk work with a piece of
58:40paper you would draw that visual Target
58:42on a piece of paper approximately the
58:44same distance that you were reading or
58:46that you were looking at music um you
58:49can tell how little uh playing of piano
58:51I've done in my life but the point being
58:52that you set the visual Target at a
58:54approximately the same distance that you
58:56would be performing your particular work
58:58so if you're doing a sport the distance
59:00might be some many meters off in the
59:04distance whereas if you're doing desk
59:06work of some kind then it might be much
59:08closer and then you focus your eyes on
59:10that location and you actively work to
59:13maintain that Focus just like I'm doing
59:15now into the camera for a given period
59:17of time and I recommend that you set a
59:19timer and that you of course allow
59:21yourself to Blink like I just did there
59:24and that you try and Achieve at least 30
59:26seconds but even better would be 60
59:29seconds even better would be 90 seconds
59:31of that Focus virgin eye movement during
59:34which several things happen including
59:36the deployment of those neurochemicals
59:38from the brain stem that I talked about
59:39before which are going to increase your
59:41level of autonomic arousal and also
59:44increase your level of focus further and
59:46there I'm not just talking about visual
59:48Focus I'm talking about cognitive focus
59:50it has also been shown that when we
59:53focus on a particular point in the way
59:55that I'm describing here that it
59:56increases our so-called systolic blood
59:59pressure as many of you know blood
01:00:01pressure is always described to us as a
01:00:03given number over another number and the
01:00:05first number is the so-called systo or
01:00:07systolic pressure which is the amount of
01:00:09pressure your vascular system when the
01:00:11heart beats as the fluid of your blood
01:00:14is pumping through the arteries veins
01:00:17and capillaries of your system and then
01:00:19the bottom number is the amount of
01:00:21pressure within those arteries veins and
01:00:24capillar iies in between heartbeat so
01:00:26it's the systolic over the diastolic and
01:00:29what we know is that visual focus and
01:00:31here I'm still holding mine now on the
01:00:33camera so for those of you listening I
01:00:35probably blinked once or twice but I'm
01:00:36really trying hard to maintain my focus
01:00:38directly within the camera this visual
01:00:40Focus increases the systolic blood
01:00:43pressure it increases the deployment of
01:00:46those neurochemicals from the brain stem
01:00:47and we know it also can recruit The
01:00:51Liberation of molecules such as dopamine
01:00:53and some Associated molecules elsewhere
01:00:56in the brain that together act in a
01:00:59synergistic way to increase our level of
01:01:01focus and motivation this is based again
01:01:04on work describing the neural circuitry
01:01:07of what I'm describing here and work
01:01:09from Emily bis's lab which has shown
01:01:11that if people focus on a Target on a
01:01:13goal line literally a physical location
01:01:15within their environment and then they
01:01:17initiate some work it could be physical
01:01:19work or cognitive work not only do they
01:01:22experience significantly decreased
01:01:24levels of perceived effort while
01:01:26engaging in that work but they also
01:01:28complete that work in a significantly
01:01:31reduced amount of time meaning that
01:01:33within a given training bout or training
01:01:35block you are able to get significantly
01:01:37more work done and you perceive that as
01:01:39less effortful or requiring less effort
01:01:42than had you not done this visual Focus
01:01:45now I've been doing this for quite some
01:01:47time now into the camera this is
01:01:48actually a practice that I've been doing
01:01:50for well over a decade and it's actually
01:01:52a practice that I use when I podcast or
01:01:54when I post on social media it's part of
01:01:55the reason why I'm accused of being a
01:01:57non- blinker quite often but I want to
01:01:58remind people that you are allowed to
01:02:00Blink don't let your eyes dry out it's
01:02:02perfectly fine to Blink it's not going
01:02:04to inhibit the effectiveness of this
01:02:05protocol but I don't think I can really
01:02:08overstate how valuable this sort of
01:02:10protocol is first of all it's completely
01:02:12behavioral it costs nothing it's
01:02:14completely safe as long as you remember
01:02:15to Blink and it allows you to increase
01:02:19your level of focus your level of
01:02:21motivation and the sustainability of
01:02:24your focus and motivation while in goal
01:02:26Pursuit so it's a quite valuable
01:02:28protocol to incorporate and it's
01:02:29something that you can do once for 30
01:02:31seconds and then lean into whatever it
01:02:33is your writing process your running
01:02:34process it's something that you could do
01:02:36repeatedly throughout that learning bout
01:02:38and it's something that you can practice
01:02:40offline a little bit away from that
01:02:42training bout as a means to sort of
01:02:44learn and get familiar with so that then
01:02:46you can incorporate it very quickly and
01:02:48repeatedly and with much more
01:02:49Effectiveness during these different
01:02:51learning doubts again it's a highly
01:02:53valuable tool that's ground grounded in
01:02:54neural circuitry grounded in
01:02:56neurochemistry and that Emily bis's lab
01:02:59has shown in numerous domains physical
01:03:02Pursuits cognitive Pursuits can really
01:03:04help people achieve their goals and to
01:03:05achieve them more easily or at least
01:03:08with less perceived effort and more
01:03:10quickly now we can get a bit more
01:03:12granular about the incorporation of this
01:03:14tool this protocol but before we do we
01:03:16should acknowledge that all of the
01:03:18things that lend themselves to improved
01:03:21cognitive focus and physical ability
01:03:23still hold true right you still need to
01:03:25get good sleep as many nights of your
01:03:27life as you possibly can you still need
01:03:29to eat properly you still need to try
01:03:31and limit your stress we have podcast
01:03:34episodes related to all of those topics
01:03:35we have toolkits available at zero cost
01:03:37related to all of those topics I'm not
01:03:40saying that this visual Focus or visual
01:03:42Target Training is the only tool that
01:03:44you should incorporate it's a tool that
01:03:46you want to superimpose on the
01:03:47foundation of all the things that bring
01:03:50you to your practice with the best
01:03:51possible cognition the best possible
01:03:53physical Readiness and that when added
01:03:56to that Foundation of excellent sleep
01:03:59excellent nutrition social connection
01:04:01sunlight in the morning Etc is going to
01:04:03increase the probability that you're
01:04:05going to make those learning bouts as
01:04:07effective as possible now some of you
01:04:08may be thinking elevating your blood
01:04:11pressure is bad why would I want to
01:04:12elevate my blood pressure ah well it
01:04:14turns out that these increases in
01:04:16systolic blood pressure achieved with
01:04:18this visual Target Training or focusing
01:04:19on a Finish Line for some period of time
01:04:22are transient and they are perfect ly
01:04:24safe so essentially what it does is it
01:04:26boosts or bolsters the activity of the
01:04:29autonomic nervous system it kickstarts
01:04:31the deployment of those chemicals and
01:04:32those neural circuits that then allow
01:04:33you to be motivated for some period of
01:04:35time but then that is a transient
01:04:38increase in autonomic rousel which is
01:04:40why perhaps every 20 minutes or perhaps
01:04:43on the hour you might stop do a 30
01:04:45second or 60-second visual Target
01:04:48Training and then lean back into your
01:04:50process of however you it is that you
01:04:52are pursuing your goal I should also
01:04:54mention that if your eyes are getting
01:04:56tired doing whatever goal Pursuit you
01:04:58happen to be engaged in it's also a good
01:05:00idea to go into that panoramic Vision
01:05:02mode the easiest way to do that is to go
01:05:04outside or to be outside and to view a
01:05:06horizon and not look at any one
01:05:08particular point on the horizon but if
01:05:09you're indoors as I am now you can also
01:05:12just relax your eyes you know you know
01:05:14blinking a few times and getting rid of
01:05:15that virgin's eye movement and try and
01:05:17visualize the corners of the room or the
01:05:20sides of the room rather the floor and
01:05:21the ceiling all at once that's a good
01:05:23way to expl expl how to so-call relax
01:05:25your eyes and take you out of that
01:05:26virgin's eye movement and I say this
01:05:28because a lot of people will feel when
01:05:30they're pursuing their goal that it's
01:05:31kind of fatiguing so you have to
01:05:32remember to Breathe Right you still want
01:05:34to breathe as you're pursuing your goal
01:05:36and you certainly want to be visually
01:05:38focused on your goal so you're
01:05:39cognitively focused on your goal and
01:05:40you're motivated but that from time to
01:05:42time you also relax take a moment shake
01:05:44things off look into your panoramic
01:05:47Vision mode and then go back to your
01:05:49mode of goal Pursuit now there are a few
01:05:51other protocols that might seem Oho
01:05:54simple but frankly are oh so effective
01:05:57that I'd be remiss if I didn't mention
01:05:58them the first of those is actually
01:06:01something that I'm borrowing from Tim
01:06:03Ferris who did a post on Instagram which
01:06:06we will link to which I think is just
01:06:07spectacular which is 30 things that he
01:06:10wished he had known when he was 20 and
01:06:12while the internet is choca block full
01:06:14of such lists that particular list is
01:06:17truly impressive those are things that I
01:06:19too wish I had known when I was 20 but
01:06:21also when I was 30 and 40 and so on but
01:06:24one particular thing on that list of 30
01:06:26is particularly relevant now which is
01:06:29that the best productivity app is
01:06:32already on your phone which is to put
01:06:34your phone into airplane mode or more
01:06:37ideally and this is the one that I try
01:06:39my best to incorporate to Simply turn
01:06:41the phone off and remove it from my
01:06:44workouts or my attempts to learn
01:06:46language or my attempts to learn
01:06:47anything I realize that some people need
01:06:49to keep their phone with them for
01:06:50reasons related to communicating with
01:06:51family or uh co-workers Etc that's fine
01:06:55if you need your phone but to the extent
01:06:56that you can remove yourself from
01:06:58distractions that's certainly going to
01:06:59en enhance your ability to focus on what
01:07:02you need to focus on in pursuing your
01:07:04goals that sort of stands without saying
01:07:06it's kind of a duh and yet I think a lot
01:07:08of people are searching far and wide for
01:07:10the productivity app for the secret hack
01:07:12for the thing that's going to allow them
01:07:13to be Pro productive and oftentimes
01:07:15there are DOs actions that we can take
01:07:18in order to become more productive we're
01:07:19talking about some of those today we've
01:07:21talked about those in other episodes but
01:07:23there are of course important don't so
01:07:25don't have your phone facing up with
01:07:29Wi-Fi and Celler service on if you want
01:07:31to be productive at something that
01:07:33doesn't evolve your phone ideally you'll
01:07:35turn it over you'll turn it off you'll
01:07:36get rid of it you'll put it in the Next
01:07:37Room if you're like me you'll sometimes
01:07:39lock it in the car I think the most
01:07:41extreme that I've ever gone to ensure
01:07:43that I didn't um engage with my phone
01:07:44during goal Pursuit was during the early
01:07:47days of having my laboratory and I was
01:07:49writing multiple grants in parallel
01:07:51which is an immense amount of work I
01:07:52would walk into the lab labatory in the
01:07:54morning and I would hand a student or
01:07:56postto my phone and I'd say don't give
01:07:58this back to me until 5:00 p.m. and if I
01:08:00ask for it back if I even ask for it
01:08:02once everyone in the lab gets
01:08:04$500 there were quite a few people in my
01:08:06lab and so it's a significant cost to
01:08:08that and I must tell you there were
01:08:09numerous times throughout the day when I
01:08:11impulsively just thought okay I'm going
01:08:13need my phone damn it I don't want to
01:08:14have to do it and I also wanted to
01:08:15demonstrate to them that I could create
01:08:17an incentive system whereby I could
01:08:20basically Scruff myself into getting the
01:08:21work done and indeed um much to their
01:08:23dismay I never once had to pay them out
01:08:26although when we got the grants and
01:08:28indeed even when we didn't get the
01:08:29grants I did take them all to dinner now
01:08:31another key protocol for maintaining
01:08:33motivation while pursuing your goals
01:08:36stems from our understanding of the
01:08:38dopamine reward and motivation Pathways
01:08:41topics for which I have done multiple
01:08:44indeed three podcast episodes previously
01:08:47and we can provide a link to all three
01:08:48of those as well as the toolkit that
01:08:50we've published and that's available to
01:08:52you at zero cost on our website about
01:08:54how to regulate dopamine both Baseline
01:08:57dopamine stores and peaks in dopamine
01:08:59there's a lot there to be understood and
01:09:00Incorporated because it has to do with
01:09:03various things not just in the realm of
01:09:05goal Pursuit but also feelings of
01:09:07well-being um staving off depression
01:09:10things of that sort the dopamine system
01:09:11is linked to oh so many important
01:09:13aspects of Life far too many than we
01:09:15could discuss right now and we have
01:09:18those previous episodes in which we do
01:09:19discuss all of that material nonetheless
01:09:23it is important to understand that
01:09:24dopamine is the molecule of motivation
01:09:27and to some extent reward but really
01:09:29motivation and that if you want to
01:09:32maintain consistent motivation during
01:09:35say your individual bouts of work toward
01:09:39your goals and from one bout to the next
01:09:42so not just within a session but from
01:09:45day to day across sessions and from week
01:09:48to week and indeed from 12we cycle to
01:09:5212we cycle if that's required and from
01:09:54one goal that you set to the next goal
01:09:56that you define and decide to pursue you
01:09:59want to understand this particular
01:10:01feature of dopamine which is that yes
01:10:05dopamine and its release is highly
01:10:08valuable toward getting more motivated
01:10:11and feeling more motivated but that it
01:10:14has certain properties related to things
01:10:16like dopamine reward prediction error
01:10:18baselines of dopamine
01:10:20Etc that make it the case that if you
01:10:24reward yourself every time you reach a
01:10:26milestone say you finish out an hour or
01:10:28two hours of work so you treat yourself
01:10:30to something you reward yourself that
01:10:33you are going to diminish both the
01:10:35potency of that reward and you are going
01:10:38to reduce your motivation over time that
01:10:40might be surprising to you but if you
01:10:42were to watch those episodes it would
01:10:43all become clear as to why that is the
01:10:45case it is also true that if you were to
01:10:49only reward yourself when you accomplish
01:10:51your goal or perhaps more commonly if
01:10:55you look at the accomplishment of your
01:10:57goal as the only reward in the whole
01:11:00process of goal Pursuit and achievement
01:11:03that is going to undermine your
01:11:05probability of success as well rather
01:11:08the best way to incorporate the
01:11:09mechanics of the dopamine system such
01:11:11that you can achieve not just immediate
01:11:14motivation but ongoing motivation is to
01:11:16incorporate what is referred to as
01:11:18random intermittent reinforcement which
01:11:20is what the casinos use to keep people
01:11:22playing it simply
01:11:24means randomly reward yourself and
01:11:28randomly don't reward yourself for
01:11:29successful completion of Milestones
01:11:32those Milestones could be within a bout
01:11:35of effort or it could be across bouts of
01:11:38effort so let's say you set out at the
01:11:39beginning on your piece of paper to
01:11:42basically let's say run or practice at
01:11:44some cognitive Endeavor four hours total
01:11:46per week and you're going to do that
01:11:49Monday Wednesday Friday and Saturday
01:11:51should you reward yourself at the end of
01:11:53each session should you reward yourself
01:11:55at the end of each week the answer is it
01:11:58depends and it should depend in a random
01:12:00intermittent way so the simplest way to
01:12:02do this is whenever you complete a
01:12:04milestone could be at the end of a day
01:12:07you did your one hour whatever it was
01:12:09that you designated you were going to do
01:12:11on that particular day should you reward
01:12:13yourself cognitively or with some
01:12:16physical thing I don't know what that
01:12:19physical thing might be but it I don't
01:12:20know could be a meal could be a movie
01:12:22could be something that you enjoy well
01:12:24the answer is you should flip a coin and
01:12:26if it's heads yes reward yourself and if
01:12:28it's Tails don't it's that simple it is
01:12:32that simple it should be 50/50
01:12:34probability and it's random as to
01:12:37whether or not you reward yourself now
01:12:39with physical rewards like monetary
01:12:41Rewards or food rewards or a movie or
01:12:43participating in something else that you
01:12:45enjoy it's a bit easier to define the
01:12:47cognitive rewarding of One's Own efforts
01:12:50is something that people really struggle
01:12:52to comprehend but what I'm not referring
01:12:54to when I say cognitive rewards is I'm
01:12:57not referring to saying yes I'm the best
01:12:59and really trying to shower yourself
01:13:01with internal praise and tell yourself
01:13:03that you're the greatest thing that ever
01:13:04happened simply because you performed
01:13:05this learning bout what I'm simply
01:13:08referring to is the kind of
01:13:10internal dopamine reward that comes from
01:13:13telling yourself like yes I'm making
01:13:15progress I'm making progress I'm on the
01:13:17path I'm able to set a goal and achieve
01:13:18a goal which might seem like a healthy
01:13:20thing to do psychologically and in fact
01:13:21it is it's great I think it's really
01:13:24important that people be able to
01:13:25self-reward themselves especially
01:13:27self-reward for verbs that put them in a
01:13:30more adaptive stance in life that
01:13:32enhance their mental health physical
01:13:33health and performance and that of
01:13:34course also includes relationships we're
01:13:36not just talking about solitary Pursuits
01:13:38here we're talking about Pursuits that
01:13:40bring us into the world that allow us to
01:13:41lean into life with more Vigor and with
01:13:44more Effectiveness not just to help
01:13:45ourselves but to help others so what I'm
01:13:47referring to is completing something and
01:13:49internally patting yourself on the back
01:13:51for having completed that thing thing
01:13:53that is a good thing to do but if you
01:13:56want to maintain ongoing motivation
01:13:58you're not going to do that every time
01:13:59you're not going to punish yourself but
01:14:02rather you finish out a bout of learning
01:14:04you flip the coin let's say it lands
01:14:06tails on that day you simply shift into
01:14:09the next thing you need to do that day
01:14:10now it is not easy to suppress thoughts
01:14:13we know this it's very hard to suppress
01:14:15negative thoughts but it's still hard to
01:14:18suppress positive thoughts so internally
01:14:20if you're glowing from the fact that you
01:14:21performed well don't try and suppress
01:14:23that that's okay but if you flip a Tails
01:14:25then you don't want to actively engage
01:14:27in a self-reward process however if you
01:14:29flip the coin and it's heads well then
01:14:32you should absolutely engage in a
01:14:34self-reward process and that process
01:14:36should consist of 30 to 60 seconds of
01:14:39closing your eyes well you don't have to
01:14:41it works better if you close your eyes
01:14:42and simply thinking about the fact that
01:14:44yes you can set a goal you can engage in
01:14:47the specific set of questions do I want
01:14:49to do this practice today do I not want
01:14:51to do this practice today and then the
01:14:52specific set of actions maybe they
01:14:54involve visual focus and the other tools
01:14:56we talked about turning off of your
01:14:57phone Etc and you are somebody who can
01:14:59get things done you are somebody that is
01:15:02moving forward toward your particular
01:15:04goal and so you just sort of create a
01:15:06little bit of a positive cognitive loop
01:15:07around that ability that you are in fact
01:15:10building up and that's something that
01:15:11people often Overlook which is that not
01:15:14only is moving toward a goal great
01:15:17because it establishes more robustness
01:15:20in the neural circuits that allow us to
01:15:22perform that thing right I mean after
01:15:23all that's what learning is eventually
01:15:25you don't achieve the same frustration
01:15:27and errors that you do when trying to
01:15:29perform that thing eventually you learn
01:15:31how to play the piano you learn how to
01:15:32speak conversational French you run that
01:15:34sub six-minute mile but also the neural
01:15:37circuits associated with self-generated
01:15:40motivation and with the tools that we're
01:15:42talking about themselves are subject to
01:15:44neuroplasticity so those become more
01:15:46robust and that's fantastic because when
01:15:49you eventually reach one goal I would
01:15:51hope that you would then update and set
01:15:53out to achieve another goal and you will
01:15:55find that over time you will be more
01:15:57effective in achieving other goals by
01:16:00virtue of the work that you did in
01:16:02pursuing a previous goal because
01:16:04ultimately it's really about defining
01:16:06goals and then learning how to quantify
01:16:08the actions required and then engaging
01:16:10in those actions so there's the specific
01:16:13circuits involved in generating those
01:16:15actions which are very goal specific and
01:16:18then there are the circuits which
01:16:20circuits are we talking about we're
01:16:21talking about that amydala the lateral
01:16:22prefrontal cortex the orbital frontal
01:16:24cortex and the basil ganglia we talked
01:16:26about earlier that have been built up
01:16:28that have been reinforced because as I
01:16:30mentioned there is one universal circuit
01:16:33for goal Pursuit and achievement So
01:16:35Random intermittent reinforcement is the
01:16:38key and while I spent a good amount of
01:16:39time talking about self-generated
01:16:41cognitive reinforcement this also
01:16:43applies to any kind of physical rewards
01:16:45the movie that you're going to reward
01:16:46yourself with the ice cream cone the
01:16:49whatever that you're going to reward
01:16:51yourself with perhaps it's monetary
01:16:53perhaps it's food perhaps it's social
01:16:56random intermittent rewards are the ones
01:16:59that are going to keep you motivated and
01:17:01are going to best increase the
01:17:02probability of success not just within a
01:17:05given bout of learning not just dayto
01:17:07day not just week to week not just
01:17:09quarter to quarter but across the
01:17:10lifetime an important protocol to
01:17:13incorporate in your goal Pursuits is one
01:17:16that I learned from Dr Maya Shankar when
01:17:18she was a guest on the huban Lab podcast
01:17:21and she talked about the so-called
01:17:23middle problem the middle problem is the
01:17:25fact that people tend to have a lot of
01:17:27motivation at the outset of pursuing a
01:17:30goal although you now know that
01:17:33sometimes or some people don't have a
01:17:35lot of motivation when pursuing their
01:17:37goal at the start so they need to think
01:17:38about failures and how terrible
01:17:40everything will be and then they will
01:17:41certainly have motivation it's going to
01:17:42be a fear-based motivation but in
01:17:44general people tend to have more
01:17:46motivation at the start of pursuing a
01:17:48goal and at the end when they get close
01:17:52to or they start start to perceive the
01:17:54finish line but that most people
01:17:57experience the so-called middle problem
01:17:59where in the middle of a learning bout
01:18:02or in the middle of the week or in the
01:18:04middle of a 12-week cycle they are less
01:18:08motivated and this has actually been
01:18:09Quantified in numerous studies and there
01:18:12are several ways to overcome the middle
01:18:13problem the simplest one is to
01:18:16acknowledge it to recognize that it's
01:18:17coming and so when it does come and
01:18:19you're experiencing lower levels of
01:18:21motivation perhaps
01:18:23even increased failure rates and you're
01:18:25not performing as well you're getting
01:18:27frustrated to know that that's a natural
01:18:30process that everybody experiences and
01:18:32just knowing that can sometimes allow
01:18:34people to move through that to the place
01:18:37where then they can sense the end of the
01:18:39learning bout or they can sense that
01:18:40they're making some progress the finish
01:18:42line is there and then they get that
01:18:43increase in motivation again however
01:18:47sometimes the middle problem is such a
01:18:49problem that people need some tools to
01:18:51move through it and and the best way to
01:18:53move through the middle problem or in
01:18:55fact to eliminate it is actually to make
01:18:57the middle of a learning bout its own
01:19:00separate thing that you acknowledge the
01:19:02presence of and that you break up into
01:19:04three separate bouts so here we're
01:19:06talking about carving up the 1 hour
01:19:08learning bout or the two-hour learning
01:19:10bout into an initial phase where you
01:19:13either have naturally occurring
01:19:14motivation or you use fear-based
01:19:16visualization to increase your
01:19:17motivation you lean into that and then
01:19:20let's assume it's a 1H hour learning
01:19:21bout and then at about the 25 minute
01:19:24Mark you start to experience lower
01:19:26levels of focus perhaps then you use the
01:19:28visual Target protocol but then you go
01:19:30back into your bout of learning and
01:19:32you're not feeling very motivated it's
01:19:34hard your mind is drifting you want to
01:19:36pick up your phone you want to do other
01:19:37things you find yourself doing other
01:19:38things that's the period of time to take
01:19:41Say the 25 minute to 45 minute period
01:19:45within the session and divide it into
01:19:47perhaps three or even four smaller
01:19:50chunks of time and you perhaps have
01:19:52heard of chunking before chunking is
01:19:54simply breaking something down into
01:19:55smaller chunks that are more achievable
01:19:57that's simply what we're talking about
01:19:58here but really chunking up that middle
01:20:01section of a learning bout can be very
01:20:03effective at essentially eliminating the
01:20:05middle problem now for those of you that
01:20:07are going to be really nitpicky you'll
01:20:08say wait you take that 20 minutes from
01:20:10the 25 minute Mark to the 45 minute Mark
01:20:12within your hour learning bout and you
01:20:14divide it up into four little uh chunks
01:20:18and in those two middle chunks I'm going
01:20:19to feel the middle problem for those two
01:20:20middle chunks ah well that's not not
01:20:23actually the way it pans out fortunately
01:20:25when you break things down into small
01:20:26enough chunks you eliminate the middle
01:20:29problem and you experience sustained
01:20:31motivation now the extreme
01:20:33interpretation of that would have you
01:20:35measuring every minute or even every
01:20:36second of a learning bout and having
01:20:39consistent motivation throughout that
01:20:40because for instance if you can
01:20:41concentrate for 10 seconds why wouldn't
01:20:43you simply be able to just mark off
01:20:4510-second increments well at some point
01:20:47the marking off or the monitoring of
01:20:50those increments is going to be
01:20:51distracting to toward the thing that you
01:20:53actually want to do so the simple thing
01:20:56to do is to acknowledge the middle
01:20:59problem right the fact that we have more
01:21:01motivation at the start and at the end
01:21:03of our goal Pursuit sessions than we do
01:21:05within the middle and then to Simply
01:21:06chunk that middle section into three
01:21:09maybe four smaller chunks and if you
01:21:11need to incorporate things like the
01:21:12visual Target protocol one or three or
01:21:15perhaps even eight times within that
01:21:18middle section so be it it's going to
01:21:19help you move through with better focus
01:21:21and better motivation and what I just
01:21:23described can of course be applied to
01:21:25the longer bouts of effort that don't
01:21:27occur just during one learning bout but
01:21:30perhaps across the week so for instance
01:21:31if you are doing four days a week of
01:21:33language learning or Fitness training so
01:21:35maybe it's a Monday Wednesday Friday
01:21:36Saturday type of Schedule H you may
01:21:38notice that in the middle of the week
01:21:41the Wednesday training session tends to
01:21:42be the one that you're less motivated to
01:21:44do for whatever reason there could be
01:21:45any reason at all for which the
01:21:47motivation is lower in the middle of the
01:21:49week it doesn't matter well in that case
01:21:51you would want to First acknowledge the
01:21:53presence of the middle problem so you
01:21:54would want to acknowledge that that
01:21:56Wednesday training bout is prone to the
01:21:59middle problem because it is indeed the
01:22:00middle problem it's in the middle of the
01:22:02Monday and the Friday training bouts so
01:22:04then you would want to approach it with
01:22:05the understanding that it's going to be
01:22:07there and that you are going to need
01:22:08tools and protocols that will allow you
01:22:10to overcome it by for instance taking
01:22:13that one or two hour session on
01:22:15Wednesdays and putting a bit more time
01:22:17toward a visual Target protocol at the
01:22:19beginning to increase your focus a bit
01:22:22more more visualizing failure if you are
01:22:24feeling amotivated that means not
01:22:27motivated in nerd speak amotivated