00:03and so when you ventured into this how
00:06did you think about differentiating
00:08amongst the already existent products
00:11like you mentioned that you wanted to
00:13create something cool what does that
00:15mean like what is the calculus in
00:18actually producing something that people
00:22I think as a startup company you
00:25you have no resources anywhere your
00:28capabilities are weak everywhere so you
00:30just gotta pick the lowest hanging fruit
00:33or the easiest thing that might give you
00:35an opportunity to break through
00:37so we started off with differentiating
00:39our products in terms of Hardware design
00:41and the way we approached it was
00:45first we looked at the entire industry
00:47and we we saw that there were very few
00:49brands that tried to build a family of
00:50devices that had a coherent design
00:53language I think Apple today is one of
00:56those companies that still do it if you
00:57look at the Apple product design they've
01:00started introducing a much sharper edges
01:03on their products so the iPhone is much
01:05boxier than before but it also Cascades
01:08into their other products that iMac the
01:10iPad Etc so you can see that there's one
01:13coherent design Vision being brought to
01:14life and even if you don't see the Apple
01:16logo you know it's a Apple product it's
01:19very hard to find a second company like
01:20that today but some of these the most
01:23respected tech companies of the past
01:26stay true to this so the Sony or the
01:29past or the bang Olufsen of the past
01:31they all had very distinct design
01:33languages so that's like one of the
01:35first principles we decided that we had
01:36to pursue like when we have more
01:38products on the market in different
01:40categories even when the consumer don't
01:42see our logo they should still know it's
01:44a product made by nothing
01:47and then we started just taking
01:51uh different creative fields from
01:53architecture design to Fashion Design to
01:55movies to to electronics Etc and then we
01:59kind of landed on this concept of having
02:01all our products be transparent in some
02:04way strategically I think these big
02:06Brands they're not going to create a
02:07transparent product anymore Apple used
02:09to a lot of the Apple iMacs of the past
02:13right uh some of the Nintendo Game boys
02:19when you're a niche player you can be
02:22more differentiated in your Hardware
02:23design yeah but when you're a mess you
02:26got to sell to everybody from the
02:28youngest person to the oldest person all
02:30types of different professions so you
02:31cannot take a lot of risk with your
02:33design anymore if you take too much risk
02:35that's going to reduce your market share
02:36but for us as a small company that's
02:39exactly what we need to do so
02:41Apple used to have this positioning on
02:44the design side that they abandoned
02:46because they they grew out of it yeah I
02:48mean every startup has to find their
02:50wedge and to your point Apple itself the
02:53iPhone used to be a more Niche phone
02:55catering to a more Niche audience and
02:57now they have to cater to literally
02:58everyone and so there are many ways that
03:02a company let alone a hardware company
03:04can differentiate but what you've it at
03:07least sounds like chosen to
03:08differentiate with is design yeah I
03:10think in this stage of the company's
03:12development we can only differentiate on
03:14design and the Insight that we drew upon
03:17is very simply that all product
03:20categories start off functional
03:22like even imagine when clothing was just
03:26uh invented as a concept we just needed
03:28to keep ourselves warm and shelter
03:30ourselves from the the weather
03:32conditions but now we want to express
03:34ourselves our our personality our
03:36individuality through the types of
03:38clothes that we were we knew there were
03:40people out there who just didn't want to
03:41have the same white wireless earbuds as
03:43everybody else and we thought there
03:45would be a market for that
03:47but having said that it's it's a it's
03:50not a very strong mode
03:52design differentiation so as the company
03:56grows and we start generating more and
04:00that needs to be reinvested into
04:01technology technology is the only real
04:04mode for a tech company